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//: StarCraft II: Wings of Liberty |OT4| Everyone Else Would Beat Catspajamas
- Thread starter Corran Horn
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Yeah, I am such an asshole, man. My golden rule is simple: if a maintenance hurts you, you have a problem. That is about it
And no, maintenance length has nothing to do with how Bnet2.0 is percieved to be working or what featureset it might bear. Edit: Also, extended maintenance is nothing new, it has been around since SCII launched. This is not the first time, and it is definitely not the last.
OrangeYouGlad
Banned
Link to a good build? I'm tired of 1/1/1.
did you try destiny cloud fist ?
OrangeYouGlad
Banned
Yeah, never called it by that name, but the 1/1/1 build I found is that build order. It would just be nice to try something different.
What league are you, if I may ask?
Fusion Pizza
Member
I'll take you up on that offer.
OrangeYouGlad
Banned
I was Silver last season. Haven't placed yet this season.
OrangeYouGlad
Banned
i was joking
try mech
Hrm, yeah, I would say at this point your build should include a good joke.
I can play with you guys and give you some tips on either Friday afternoon or Saturday morning.
OrangeYouGlad
Banned
That would be good. I remember the first time you and I played together. Definitely made my head swell from the amount of information and tips you gave me.
They randomly showed Starcraft on Alcatraz last night: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b67HkY8TVLc
Hurley is totally up on the PvP metagame.
Hurley is totally up on the PvP metagame.
"4gate rush huh? Child's play."
"Your refresh rate is like 0, what are you on some kind of Pentagon mainframe?"
"I am the Grandmaster."
Why would his refresh rate be zero, he's not playing desert strike. Oh what I guess if you were playing on an old ass mainframe sc2 would run pretty shitty.
Corran Horn
May the Schwartz be with you
4 gate rush mentioned? Awesome, TV show is understanding video games.
Pentagon mainframe to get refresh rate 0 to play better? Nvm....
Pentagon mainframe to get refresh rate 0 to play better? Nvm....
for some reason, they dont update the patch notes when they update.
Blizzard just doesn't seem to give a fuck. They leave tons of high demand simple fixes undone, and every now and then spring out some ridiculously obscure bug fix as proof that they're doing something.
However, since Blizzard has a vice grip on SC2 broadcasting, it's impossible for the community to fix the problems themselves without getting the banhammer from Blizzard.
However, since Blizzard has a vice grip on SC2 broadcasting, it's impossible for the community to fix the problems themselves without getting the banhammer from Blizzard.
Fusion Pizza
Member
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The Everyman
agreed
honestly, blizzard is either idiotic or they arnt really trying to foster the starcraft e sports thing.
im going to go with idiotic because it's in their interest to make their soon to be ~$180 game a popular competitive sport
their ignorance with dota shows they arnt business savvy,
their ignorance with lan support shows they arnt considerate of their fans (though somewhat business savvy in the poorest way possible)
So paying for the biggest tournament like 6 times a year (?) isnt good?
Isn't also SC2 very healthy in the sense of amount of tournaments and acceptence in Korea? (Of course we have the eSport bubble, but thats not related to this).
GSL? Don't they have other sponsors? I don't think Blizzard covers the whole thing.
SC2 is still much smaller than Broodwar in Korea.
Activision-Blizzard manged to fuck up their all but guaranteed Korean success by being too greedy. At launch they had no good way for Lan Cafe's to play SC2 severely hamstringing their Korean player base, and the sever lawsuits with Kespa wrecked SC2's professional Debut in Korea.
PhoenixDark
Banned
I understand the lack of LAN, although I do feel they could have produced a tournament version with LAN; but then again Idra and others have argued that might not be a good idea, as it would be impossible to prepare for playing on LAN in a tournament if you couldn't practice on LAN beforehand.
Blizzard's response has typically been to throw money at things, but money doesn't foster community. We're already seeing the early grumblings about the lack of profit in esports, even after what was generally considered a very successful year in 2011. If Blizzard is unable to help cultivate the community beyond balance patches for 1v1, I really think this game is going to lose popularity quickly. Perhaps they don't care. Eventually SC2 will get big-ish in Korea and Blizz won't have to prop it up with bags of money. Then the US scene will slowly move back to small local tournaments and Blizzard can move on to WarCraft IV.
Blizzard's response has typically been to throw money at things, but money doesn't foster community. We're already seeing the early grumblings about the lack of profit in esports, even after what was generally considered a very successful year in 2011. If Blizzard is unable to help cultivate the community beyond balance patches for 1v1, I really think this game is going to lose popularity quickly. Perhaps they don't care. Eventually SC2 will get big-ish in Korea and Blizz won't have to prop it up with bags of money. Then the US scene will slowly move back to small local tournaments and Blizzard can move on to WarCraft IV.
Blizzard throws money at all the wrong things. Fix Battle.net already. Why is there still no clan support despite it being in WC3? Why are Blizzard-designed maps always so shitty, and why do they not include more tournament maps in the ladder pool to help foster more novice players with the potential and desire to go pro? Why is the 2v2 map pool a stagnant mess of shit when it is a match up that could be a fun and competitive one with better maps?
Blizzard claims to have a whole "e-Sports team" doing something, but it seems like the amount of work being done to improve the game for "e-Sports" is at most taking 10 hours a month out of some intern's schedule.
They also need to fire their map maker. Seriously, why does every 3rd base need to have rocks or be insanely far away? Why do so many maps have a natural with no choke point whatsoever? Their map design makes it so only early rushes are viable strategies.
Blizzard claims to have a whole "e-Sports team" doing something, but it seems like the amount of work being done to improve the game for "e-Sports" is at most taking 10 hours a month out of some intern's schedule.
They also need to fire their map maker. Seriously, why does every 3rd base need to have rocks or be insanely far away? Why do so many maps have a natural with no choke point whatsoever? Their map design makes it so only early rushes are viable strategies.
PhoenixDark
Banned
I think the strategy must be to save these types of basic features for expansions, as a means to convince people to buy them. But if the game is actually good and well supported, wouldn't that convince people to buy them too? There is no excuse that the game is behind WCIII in terms of social features. Blizzard seems to think being able to add friends from Facebook meets that quota.
The map situation is depressing, especially because it could be fixed so easily if Blizzard just supported map makers - and if the UI was better so maps weren't hidden on the fifth or sixth page of lists.
Nobody is making you play sc2. If blizzard is doing a shitty job stop giving the money. It's called the Leafs syndrome.
PhoenixDark
Banned
Another problem with having two expansions is that Blizzard's focus will be entirely on unit creation and balance, while everything else is ignored or prolonged.
I like the game. It's just that the faults seem so easy to fix, and that Blizzard is ignoring them is frustrating.
haha, oh wow.
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edit: In my opinion esports is making this game alive, i wouldn't of bought this game if it had no esports.
i only play this game to maybe someday get good at this game and dedicate more time when im done with school and maybe win money.
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edit: In my opinion esports is making this game alive, i wouldn't of bought this game if it had no esports.
i only play this game to maybe someday get good at this game and dedicate more time when im done with school and maybe win money.
Corran Horn
May the Schwartz be with you
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