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//: StarCraft II: Wings of Liberty |OT4| Everyone Else Would Beat Catspajamas
- Thread starter Corran Horn
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Corran Horn
May the Schwartz be with you
TL map winner
PhoenixDark
Banned
Actually the entire map is made of creep
Corran Horn
May the Schwartz be with you
map too big, zerg qq, map too small, zerg qq.
its not the size, its the ramps.
Corran Horn
May the Schwartz be with you
map has ramps, zerg qq
Trickster
Member
Is this a map that good players have actually played on and said was a good map? Because it looks really wonky.
Edit - 2 points from the 770 that should be what is required for diamond on EU according to blizzard. I'm pretty much only meeting diamond now as well. Love this game when I can see I'm moving up in the world
AdventureRacing
Member
How big are the mains? It looks like a siege tank on the low ground at the 3rd wouldn't be far off hitting the gas geysers. Not a big deal but could make for some scary pushes
Is this a map that good players have actually played on and said was a good map? Because it looks really wonky.
Edit - 2 points from the 770 that should be what is required for diamond on EU according to blizzard. I'm pretty much only meeting diamond now as well. Love this game when I can see I'm moving up in the world
The map has been tested on ESL matches with Korean pros. It's apparently pretty good.
AdventureRacing
Member
That's good to know. I certainly find this map to be more interesting and unique than anythign blizzard is making for the most part (i guess i should give the new maps a chance tough).
Word. Looking at it is actually interesting, and I can only imagine a slow terran push down the main road, blocking the ramps as he continues his path
Yoshichan
And they made him a Lord of Cinder. Not for virtue, but for might. Such is a lord, I suppose. But here I ask. Do we have a sodding chance?
AdventureRacing
Member
Why act like a dumb player not realizing how ramp size DOES affect matchup balance on the maps? You could actually...you know...THINK a second instead
But whatever you feel like doing
Why act like a dumb player not realizing how ramp size DOES affect matchup balance on the maps? You could actually...you know...THINK a second instead
But whatever you feel like doing
I haven't checked the map in depth but just because it has a ramp doesn't mean its imbalanced... just stay away from that spot when an engament occurs if you play Z...
Awesome Animals
Member
This post needs to be in the OP.
AdventureRacing
Member
Wait people actually play SC2?
I did not say that
But there is a reason why Shakuras is nearly bullshit for Zergs in all matchups, excluding mirrors. Check out its ramp size.Forcefields and Siege Tanks are far more effective on narrower ramps.
Awesome Animals
Member
You want to avoid a bottleneck situation. You don't want your units to be going single fire into the enemy because the strength of Zerg is it's quantity of units and its speed. You are going for a surround, and a narrow choke point in the form of a narrow ramp eliminates this possibility. You want to avoid a confrontation near ramps.
Yoshichan
And they made him a Lord of Cinder. Not for virtue, but for might. Such is a lord, I suppose. But here I ask. Do we have a sodding chance?
I was confused until you added the sound effects. Nicely done.
Here are some other sounds...Stutter stepping marine that gets hit by banelings: DRRTRRR DRTTRR DRTR *UAAAHHOO*
Roach spits acid and dies: SCHHHHHHHHH SCHHHSHSHSHSHHHHHH
Man, I should work for Blizzard and do a SC2-version for the deaf.
Stutter stepping marine that gets hit by banelings: DRRTRRR DRTTRR DRTR *UAAAHHOO*
Roach spits acid and dies: SCHHHHHHHHH SCHHHSHSHSHSHHHHHH
Man, I should work for Blizzard and do a SC2-version for the deaf.
I think you have just properly identified your calling in life.
Corran Horn
May the Schwartz be with you
Need more qq.Why act like a dumb player not realizing how ramp size DOES affect matchup balance on the maps? You could actually...you know...THINK a second instead
But whatever you feel like doing
Let's play the map before people say shit about it mmmm'kay.
Anyone know how to get an RSS feed of Blizzards Starcraft 2 blog?
I agree. It would be nice info to have in the OP.
I am in Bronze; In my last 20 games I am 12 - 8. I think my current ladder points are 301, which is no where near the suggested 1,200 to be moved up. I am sitting at 6th in my current division though.
EDIT: I started playing MP on the 17th, but the season was locked on the 13th so I don't think I can be promoted between seasons.
It seems the general consensus is that the Silver league has significantly less cheese than Bronze. If that is true I look forward to moving up to Silver, if and when that day comes.
I agree. It would be nice info to have in the OP.
I am in Bronze; In my last 20 games I am 12 - 8. I think my current ladder points are 301, which is no where near the suggested 1,200 to be moved up. I am sitting at 6th in my current division though.
EDIT: I started playing MP on the 17th, but the season was locked on the 13th so I don't think I can be promoted between seasons.
It seems the general consensus is that the Silver league has significantly less cheese than Bronze. If that is true I look forward to moving up to Silver, if and when that day comes.
Awesome Animals
Member
Wasn't like that last time I laddered. If anything I think it gets worse, although the composition of leagues may have changed a bit, I don't think I've laddered since July.
Corran Horn
May the Schwartz be with you
Oh god quantic gaming followed EG with these horrible borders/frames for their streams.
atleast theirs doesnt cover the game clock.
Corran Horn
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Awesome Animals
Member
So, I tune into SlayerS_Dragon's stream and find 20 Command Centers floating over what's left of a zerg base...lol
I also noticed he is playing the english version of the game. What is his story?
I also noticed he is playing the english version of the game. What is his story?
Here's my take, seeing as I've come up through Bronze league 3 times
Bronze - Execute a poorly timed cheese/all-in. If you defend you win, either because they quit or because you're so ahead. Rarely goes out of poorly done 1-base play. The natural may be taken but production is not ramped up to compensate.
Silver - Cheeses are now executed more frequently though not always properly. Cheese builds are used regardless of the map, starting positions, etc. Expect below average 1-base play and poor 2-base play.
Gold - Cheese is less frequent but executed at an average level. 2 base play is the norm with 3rd bases starting to appear.
Platinum - Cheese is executed at slightly above average level but 2-base builds and timings are the norm. 3rd and 4th bases are taken.
Corran Horn
May the Schwartz be with you
Here's my take, seeing as I've come up through Bronze league 3 times
Bronze - Execute a poorly timed cheese/all-in. If you defend you win, either because they quit or because you're so ahead. Rarely goes out of poorly done 1-base play. The natural may be taken but production is not ramped up to compensate.
Silver - Cheeses are now executed more frequently though not always properly. Cheese builds are used regardless of the map, starting positions, etc. Expect below average 1-base play and poor 2-base play.
Gold - Cheese is less frequent but executed at an average level. 2 base play is the norm with 3rd bases starting to appear.
Platinum - Cheese is executed at slightly above average level but 2-base builds and timings are the norm. 3rd and 4th bases are taken.
Masters - Cheese is the norm.
Here's my take, seeing as I've come up through Bronze league 3 times
Bronze - Execute a poorly timed cheese/all-in. If you defend you win, either because they quit or because you're so ahead. Rarely goes out of poorly done 1-base play. The natural may be taken but production is not ramped up to compensate.
Silver - Cheeses are now executed more frequently though not always properly. Cheese builds are used regardless of the map, starting positions, etc. Expect below average 1-base play and poor 2-base play.
Gold - Cheese is less frequent but executed at an average level. 2 base play is the norm with 3rd bases starting to appear.
Platinum - Cheese is executed at slightly above average level but 2-base builds and timings are the norm. 3rd and 4th bases are taken.
Hmmm. This is slightly demoralizing. I guess I am going to have to learn to deal with the cheese since there is no escaping it.
Thanks for putting this together.
poor 2 base play extends well into low diamond tbh.
its so odd trying to categorize the 'good' leagues when the majourity of the player base does not play 1v1 regularily, so an active top 25 bronze leaguer is still in the top half of all starcraft players at the time.
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if 'good' was just defined as 'better than most', just about everyone who plays 1v1 ladder is good but nobody would ever say that because the skill range within the 'good' subset is biblical in scale.
its so odd trying to categorize the 'good' leagues when the majourity of the player base does not play 1v1 regularily, so an active top 25 bronze leaguer is still in the top half of all starcraft players at the time.
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if 'good' was just defined as 'better than most', just about everyone who plays 1v1 ladder is good but nobody would ever say that because the skill range within the 'good' subset is biblical in scale.
Awesome Animals
Member
Nah, no one thinks that.You can come out and say it. You think I'm a good player
Tashi, on the other hand, has potential
Awesome Animals
Member
Corran Horn
May the Schwartz be with you
Nah, no one thinks that.
Tashi, on the other hand, has potential
To lose to my DTs
http://esfiworld.com/news/mlg-cancels-online-shows-including-slasher-sc-report
MLG lays off employees, cancels shows.
MLG lays off employees, cancels shows.
Corran Horn
May the Schwartz be with you
:/ read about sc report earlier and I think last week about MLG letting go other people.
Sad
Sad
PhoenixDark
Banned
Good riddance Slasher
I'm really sad about Slasher's show being canceled. It was hands down the best show in eSports. It's too bad some people couldn't get past his personality to actually watch it, but I don't think viewer numbers are the reason why it got canceled. I'd much rather watch a daily show that covers all eSports than a weekly show about a few guys shooting the shit. I hope he moves the show to onemoregametv.