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[Tashi]

Played some SC2 today finally after like 3 weeks or a month or some shit. Played a match against the AI to warm up. Played the placement match for the season, won, got put in Bronze. 40th. Played another, am at 15th. I have like 75 bonus pool points so I'm hoping to soar to top 3 or some shit today. I just wanna get to silver man.

 

[-COOLIO-]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CPdIhFxbP-o

 

[Pandaman]

>platinum

 

[FoxSpirit]

The market is being over saturated right now with no indication of slowing down. More and more Koreans are going to start streaming too. Streaming isn't going to viable to anyone, especially since there are very little differences between streams. At this point, only the name of the player matters. Major hitters will get their viewers but you have to be a bit worried when you have people like CombatEX streaming now.

Seriously, I watch a lot of streams and the only streams that really matter to me are the commented tournament streams and TotalBiscuit, who is an excellent self-commenter.

Dsetiny is simply nothing special anymore and the time I once watched the stream for a longer period he played a boring Zerg with zero map presence. If I'm gonna watch an uncommented Zerg stream it's gotta be Violet, aggro Zerg ftw

 

[Pancakes]

The market is being over saturated right now with no indication of slowing down. More and more Koreans are going to start streaming too. Streaming isn't going to viable to anyone, especially since there are very little differences between streams. At this point, only the name of the player matters. Major hitters will get their viewers but you have to be a bit worried when you have people like CombatEX streaming now.

Has his viewers numbers shrinked from going to own3d? Seems lower that he use to get but then again tons of more people are streaming now.

It's only gonna get worse when IM starts streaming in 2012.

I personally hate watching Own3d streams because it keeps randomly unmuting itself, shit pisses me off.

 

[-COOLIO-]

>platinum

my thor helion is making a comeback man

and nu, not platinum >: [

 

[PhoenixDark]

Yea it took awhile but Koreans finally realized streaming is good. Given how saturated things are it was only a matter of time before the money dried up. Which is bad news for guys like Destiny who have no other revenue stream. I don't expect the bubble to burst soon, but we'll definitely see money move away from the smaller scale, "grass roots" types.

If SC2 ever gets big in Korea (lol) streaming could be quite lucrative there, temporarily. Right now there's no doubt at least 70% of all viewers Koreans are getting come from foreigners

 

[Pandaman]

Yea it took awhile but Koreans finally realized streaming is good. Given how saturated things are it was only a matter of time before the money dried up. Which is bad news for guys like Destiny who have no other revenue stream. I don't expect the bubble to burst soon, but we'll definitely see money move away from the smaller scale, "grass roots" types.

If SC2 ever gets big in Korea (lol) streaming could be quite lucrative there, temporarily. Right now there's no doubt at least 70% of all viewers Koreans are getting come from foreigners

even if sc2 gets big in korea the streaming viewership will be foreign dominated. We have more warm bodies, we win.

 

[Tashi]

Time to innovate noobs.

 

[Pandaman]

Time to innovate noobs.

try issuing as many commands as you can through the minimap

 

[PhoenixDark]

even if sc2 gets big in korea the streaming viewership will be foreign dominated. We have more warm bodies, we win.

Yea, just pointing out there will be a boom/bust in Korea as their advertisers jump on board.

 

[jasonng]

If Korea ever picks up sc2, it would be patches after the last expansion. If there's any hope for streaming, it would be Korean ad revenue. Don't ask me how that would work though.

 

[Tashi]

try issuing as many commands as you can through the minimap

?

 

[jasonng]

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Oh you are just adorable.

The minimap is pretty imba since it makes it easy for terrans to 1a their army into the enemy base.

 

[Pandaman]

?

the last time i saw you play, you would [when scouting] follow your scout around issuing new commands everytime it crossed a screens distance.

it was adorable but it also eats up a ton of time. so instead of following your unit, select it and click on where on the map you want him to go. [move/a move/patrol/whatever]

 

[Tashi]

Oh you are just adorable.

<3 Aren't I?

Edit: this is a big miss communication! I called the streamers noobs because theyre losing viewers as more and more players joined. Then you replied to that and I took it as you making fun of my noob skills. But that confused me because I wasn't talking about their skill. But I do appreciate the tip <3

 

[Pandaman]

<3 Aren't I?

Edit: this is a big miss communication! I called the streamers noobs because theyre losing viewers as more and more players joined. Then you replied to that and I took it as you making fun of my noob skills. But that confused me because I wasn't talking about their skill. But I do appreciate the tip <3

oh i just thought you were announcing you were going to ladder/play, since you've just gotten your new keyboard. -_-

 

[Tashi]

oh i just thought you were announcing you were going to ladder/play, since you've just gotten your new keyboard. -_-

Hahahaha oh you! <3

 

[FoxSpirit]

I'm sorry, there is a streaming bubble?? Do you suggest we, the viewers who still hang around, will suddenly vanish, crashing the total viewer count by 75%?? Or did you misrepresent the bubble ter? ;-P

And TotalBiscuit today was, "Wtf guys, I have 4k viewers. Why do you hang around? I play terrible!!" Ah, entertainment, why can't I quit you?

 

[Corran Horn]

I'm sorry, there is a streaming bubble?? Do you suggest we, the viewers who still hang around, will suddenly vanish, crashing the total viewer count by 75%?? Or did you misrepresent the bubble ter? ;-P

And TotalBiscuit today was, "Wtf guys, I have 4k viewers. Why do you hang around? I play terrible!!" Ah, entertainment, why can't I quit you?

the money they make now won't be there as more people stream and reduce the revenue for streamers. Spreads out too much.

 

[Sliver]

Wow Ret is almost hitting 9k for viewers right now. Wonder what caused this huge bump, he usually sits at 1-3k.

 

[Pandaman]

the money they make now won't be there as more people stream and reduce the revenue for streamers. Spreads out too much.

thats assuming advertisers don't take notice and begin targeting the streaming market.
more ads, more money, more support for more players.

 

[Corran Horn]

hmmm

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[FoxSpirit]

the money they make now won't be there as more people stream and reduce the revenue for streamers. Spreads out too much.

That's not a streaming bubble, that's a streamer's bubble.
The money for streaming will always be there, but only good streamers will keep the people bound to them.

 

[Pancakes]

Wow Ret is almost hitting 9k for viewers right now. Wonder what caused this huge bump, he usually sits at 1-3k.

He's commentating his play.

Edit: Oh and he has a girl on his stream

 

[Corran Horn]

That's not a streaming bubble, that's a streamer's bubble.
The money for streaming will always be there, but only good streamers will keep the people bound to them.

Your taking too much into wording.

 

[Ikuu]

They did give too many partnerships away, they seem to be willing to give them to anyone.

 

[PhoenixDark]

hmmm

Meh I'll believe it when I see it. I'd imagine anything they do will result in ridiculous downtime,, errors, etc. They should test this out with some showmatches before starting the season

 

[Corran Horn]

thats assuming advertisers don't take notice and begin targeting the streaming market.
more ads, more money, more support for more players.

Tebow to playoffs. your argument is invalid.

 

[Sliver]

He's commentating his play.

Edit: Oh and he has a girl on his stream

Both of those are very common for his stream, which is when he gets lower viewers.

Doesn't matter anyway, his stream is pretty rad.

 

[FoxSpirit]

Your taking too much into wording.

Welllllll... language is precision work, my friend. Especially when we talk about varieties of economic bubbles.

Just like Starcraft ;-)

 

[Corran Horn]

Welllllll... language is precision work, my friend. Especially when we talk about varieties of economic bubbles.

Just like Starcraft ;-)

Cool. We will see how streaming is when people start doing it less since they are not making much money off it.

 

[HolyCheck]

 

[Pandaman]

mmmm, turn the page quick.

 

[Hazaro]

I played someone here yesterday. I forgot who it was. Nooby mistake of walking army and not watching it. Oh well. At least I beat up a bronze leaguer Zerg and some Protoss guy IN BRONZE who 4 gated, expanded to the gold, and got blink while spending his money.
After I held his 4 gate after my 2 rax expand he said 'your not in bronze r u'. Then I stimmed into his army and killed him. Aw yea.
Also bunkers are pretty good.

The market is being over saturated right now with no indication of slowing down. More and more Koreans are going to start streaming too. Streaming isn't going to viable to anyone, especially since there are very little differences between streams. At this point, only the name of the player matters. Major hitters will get their viewers but you have to be a bit worried when you have people like CombatEX streaming now.

There should be enough diversity to support player streams as is I think. Events, I don't know.

 

[Tashi]

Can a bunker hold a Xel' Naga tower? Empty or full?

 

[Pandaman]

Can a bunker hold a Xel' Naga tower? Empty or full?

no

but terrans can build towers that have longer range and dont even need units.

 

[Tashi]

no

but terrans can build towers that have longer range and dont even need units.

Thanks. That's kinda weak.

 

[Pandaman]

Thanks. That's kinda weak.

burrowed zerg units cant even hold towers.

 

[Corran Horn]

Burrowed units...qq


Mia Rose streaming on destinys channel now?

 

[Yoshichan]

Okay, you need to work on relaxing your hand during SC2 play. This may sound trivial but actually you seem to have accumulated quite a bit of tension in your hand. Something like Hand-QiGong-ball rolling should be really beneficial.

QiGong is the most amazing technique ever to exist.
It heals everything.
I could feel my own chi between my hands after the first session. (Alright, I cheated I guess, cause 6 months of yoga was done before that).

Yoshi, I suggest you look up the basic QiGong practices online, and buy the balls. Do that between ladder matches for half a minute while you are in the queue, and breath from your stomach instead of the chest, and you will get rid of the stress aswell.

Thank you both... I really appreciate it.

 

[Tashi]

burrowed zerg units cant even hold towers.

Good, fuck Zerg

 

[Pandaman]

Good, fuck Zerg

1v1?

 

[Tashi]

1v1?

Maybe later. Kinda feel like some SFIV tonight.

 

[Corran Horn]

1v1?

Why you gonna proxy hatch and build queen on wrong hatch again?

 

[Pandaman]

Why you gonna proxy hatch and build queen on wrong hatch again?

no, the plan was for him to say 'no' and then for me to reveal that i was talking about halo, but he didn't fall for it.

 

[jasonng]

no, the plan was for him to say 'no' and then for me to reveal that i was talking about halo, but he didn't fall for it.

He saved himself from an embarrassing shutout match, really.

 

[Yoshichan]

no, the plan was for him to say 'no' and then for me to reveal that i was talking about halo, but he didn't fall for it.

:3

 

[Tashi]

no, the plan was for him to say 'no' and then for me to reveal that i was talking about halo, but he didn't fall for it.

I'm a good Halo player, we don't fall for 1v1 callouts. Lolz.


What's the equivalent in SC2 talk?

 

[Pandaman]

I'm a good Halo player, we don't fall for 1v1 callouts. Lolz.


What's the equivalent in SC2 talk?

i dont know, nobody on gaf can call me out and hope to win, so its never come up.

...

shut up striek.