I pretty much missed most games because they'd go on break, and by the time I checked the stream again they were on another break. Bleh.
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//: StarCraft II: Wings of Liberty |OT5| Killing #ESPORTS
- Thread starter Corran Horn
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Welp, i dunno if ppl have been looking at reddit/tl.net huge debate going on right now is the f2p model for multiplayer.
I have no clue how it could work, carmac said it was sorta needed in esports, dustin browder said they are thinking about it.
Is paid for change name enough? They could try the UMS market idea they had a while ago.
I really don't wanna see skin/model changing =-/
edit: In-Game tournament, like poker system?
I have no clue how it could work, carmac said it was sorta needed in esports, dustin browder said they are thinking about it.
Is paid for change name enough? They could try the UMS market idea they had a while ago.
I really don't wanna see skin/model changing =-/
edit: In-Game tournament, like poker system?
qftw
Haunted
Member
Blizzard going with F2P and microtransactions reads like a disaster waiting to happen. They're not Valve, they don't know how to do it right.
DH Valencia: How is Moon in the Ro16 again? He hasn't had a bad run in a European tournament yet. How does he do it? >_>
Vortix with another good run into the Ro8, good matches ahead with him against TheSTC and Stephano vs Forgg.
DH Valencia: How is Moon in the Ro16 again? He hasn't had a bad run in a European tournament yet. How does he do it? >_>
Vortix with another good run into the Ro8, good matches ahead with him against TheSTC and Stephano vs Forgg.
i think blizzard knows how to make money.
Haunted
Member
I wasn't speaking from the company's perspective. Making money and dong it right can be two entirely separate things.
*looks at Diablo auction house*
$1 per stim
$1 per Fungal
$1 per Forcefield
ive been thinking about it a lot lately and i no longer believe in the long term viability of an esport that isn't f2p.
how can you pirate that which has no value?
Haunted
Member
It's tough to imagine how they'd switch now. People don't care about cosmetic items because cosmetic items haven't been a focus with the current model. You can't change the focus of an already established game that's working and expect the community to adapt.
Age of Empires tried microtransactions with consumables, units and races and it didn't work.
Unless it's built from the ground up to support microtransactions like Dota2, it's hard to make a successful switch.
Honest question because I don't follow the game - how does LoL handle this? I know you can buy new heroes, are they allowed in competitive play? Are they necessary, encouraged, shunned?
Blizzard would probably do something stupid like limit your playtime per day, or make unranked matches F2P so everyone can start playing while ranked matches/ladder cost a subscription fee. Or something.
edit: wait, the starter edition is already pretty similar to that >_>
colours, avatars, decals and custom unit models [see preorder thor vs basic thor].
you can also still monetize single player gameplay.
Haunted
Member
Would that work, though? Do enough SC2 players care about this stuff to pay money for something that used to be free? And more importantly - is Blizzard willing to gamble on that?
I wish they would but I think they won't - they'll continue to bank on their brand power to sell a sufficient amount of copies at a premium to create a strong enough competitive scene.
i'd pay $5 to play yellow on the ladder. >_>
as for decals, look at peepmode, people grind dozens and dozens of games to buy decals and avatars with that maps currency.
AdventureRacing
Member
Definitely agree with panda here. I think if you want your game to be an esport F2P is the way to go and i think blizzard can do it (using some of the examples listed already). Also remember they don't actually have to get everyone to spend $60 as going F2P would open them up to a larger playing base. There is also the extra money to be made by potentially introducing more people to SC2 as an esport.
Honestly i think if they choose not to do this i think future expansions will hurt the scene. The cost of entry is going to go up and only hurt the playerbase more. If blizzard are serious about SC2 being a massive esport this is the way to go.
Also i'd pay full price to be able to give my zealots chef hats
. I think you'd be surprised the things people would be willing to (and actually really want to) pay for.
Honestly i think if they choose not to do this i think future expansions will hurt the scene. The cost of entry is going to go up and only hurt the playerbase more. If blizzard are serious about SC2 being a massive esport this is the way to go.
Also i'd pay full price to be able to give my zealots chef hats
. I think you'd be surprised the things people would be willing to (and actually really want to) pay for.Who in what?
Definitely agree with panda here. I think if you want your game to be an esport F2P is the way to go and i think blizzard can do it (using some of the examples listed already). Also remember they don't actually have to get everyone to spend $60 as going F2P would open them up to a larger playing base. There is also the extra money to be made by potentially introducing more people to SC2 as an esport.
Honestly i think if they choose not to do this i think future expansions will hurt the scene. The cost of entry is going to go up and only hurt the playerbase more. If blizzard are serious about SC2 being a massive esport this is the way to go.
Also i'd pay full price to be able to give my zealots chef hats
we are looking at 40$ now instead of 60$ :-/
as much as i want it to happen, i don't see it happening --;
tarja got into the round of 8 at dreamhack lol
AdventureRacing
Member
I agree it won't happen but i think it would be the right move.
$40, but will hots require a WoL account like brood war required SC vanilla?
Corran Horn
May the Schwartz be with you
Macrotransactions.
lol
Corran Horn
May the Schwartz be with you
eg.curse.rc
Dreamhack is awesome
That was great timing.
I must be a fussy old man but I find Dreamhack pretty unbearable with it's "funny" attempts at topical humour. Nothing annoys me more that the tool who updates the overlays when he insists on trying to interject himself into the proceedings.
The tournament making a joke about a player seconds after he's eliminated? That's just lame, and not the same sort of easily ignorable lame as Dreamhack insisting that everyone who watches eSports must love the same unfunny SC2 youtube skits from 14 months ago.
I agree, especially when they are fueling an inane meme as in this case. At first the eg curse drivel was amusing as it seemed to be just people trolling, but apparently they actually believe in it and think they are funny by spamming it whenever they lose games. Some kind of cognitive dysfunction
I'm glad it didn't work out, I could imagine the next couple of weeks on ladder being nothing but storm rushes if it succeeded.
Well.... because!