It doesn't have a ladder therefore the engine sucks is galaxy brain ngl
Good news is starfield has ladders
Good news is starfield has ladders
PropellerEar
Member
Lame bait & shit post.
You made it here just to stand up for your fellow trolls or did that shoe fit you too?
kingfey
Banned
I understand. But that is not MP. MP are like the halo MP, call of duty MP.
MMO is different genre.
MP: Multiplayer with certain groups. Halo, call of duty
MMo: Massive number of players playing at the same time. Destiny
MMORPG: Same as mmo, different is. its for rpg games. Games like wow, ff14.
kingfey
Banned
did you check the combat? Ladder was just a basic settings. There are other stuff that is wrong with the engine. Not to mention, all these unfinished bugs, that is being carried from the 1st version until the upgraded version.
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Themacabre
Member
There isn't a single suitable replacement for what Bethesda does with their games, with the level of interactivity and "stuff", and how they develop so quickly.
Concern
Member
Coming from the one who got triggered by a post calling out your fellow trolls
. Good day
PropellerEar
Member
Another lame bait & shit post.Coming from the one who got triggered by a post calling out your fellow trolls
twilo99
Member
Fiddeling those knobs to get it running on XSS...
Is it supposed to run on XSS? I thought it was "next gen" only title
kingfey
Banned
It should. Dont know what the guy is on.
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XSS is a next gen system.
You're literally the first person to mention the ps5Just came for the "its not coming to Ps5 so Bethesda sucks" crowd and im not disappointed
Not true at all, it's simply a priority, that's what they choose to prioritize. An engine is just a tool, no magic any engine can do anything as long as you have the source code. It's simply a matter or time and resources. A lot of people within bethesda have asked to ditch the engine in favor of others, it's Todd who doesn't want to let it go.
kingfey
Banned
he is making fun of the quote.
The 1st guy was making fun of xss. Since starfield is next gen, and xss is weak to run that game.
PropellerEar
Member
Yes.
Todd & Co will polish those knobs to shine on XSS too.
Concern
Member
Except the very first "concern" post was from a ps fanboy. But I guess you're blind to that right?
FF:Enhanced_Reality
Member
If anyone expects a smooth game at launch that runs pretty well and very few glitches, get ready for a game that will have a really bad frame rate, common game breaking glitches and tones of bugs.
We joked about Bethesda quality for decades, now all of a sudden we can't because MS bought them & it goes against your platform of choice? I'm excited for Starfield and that high poly sandwich, but I expect the game to be very buggy.
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sainraja
Member
When what they think does not happen, they start imagining it. That's what he's talking about lol.
Just ignore him. He's the troll master — his posts never add anything of value to any thread (Xbox or PS).
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Concern
Member
Its not about "joking". Im not even looking forward to this. These are the same people who kept downplaying the acquisition.
Even the crossfire thread was full of fanboys shitposting there too. Actually the first post too. Same people that then cry when someone does it in a ps thread.
Again.. you would have no problems with these jokes if it was pre-acquisition. I think that already tells us enough.
Concern
Member
El Pistolero
Banned
The strongest GOTY contender, imo: It will be richer, denser, more complex and will offer more options than all the other candidates put together; It is not a cross-gen title and will benefit fron Bethesda's new engine; It is, contrary to God of War and Horizon, a new IP. As a PS player, this one is the only title that makes me incredibly envious. I will need to grab a Series S at some point to explore this world, no doubt.
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SenjutsuSage
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Exactly what I thought, and what Todd Howard has seemingly confirmed now in multiple interviews.
SenjutsuSage
Banned
I hope so, I am picturing The Expanse in all but name… MS has Bethesda AND Obsidian… come on!!! Very excited
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It's really insane to consider they have both those studios as well as InXile, which has apparently grown quite a bit since they've been acquired.
gow3isben
Member
That is also gonna get delayed too but it may be delayed from aug/sept 2022 to nov/dec or maybe even q1 2023
El Pistolero
Banned
They have cornered the W-RPG market to the point that Sony will not be able to compete with them for a long, long time. Sony will get mutilplayer projects, Racing titles and even FPSs to counter MS, but they have zilch to offer in terms of W-RPGs now that Bethesda, Obsidian and Inxile are no longer available to them. Agressive and smart move by MS: If you want to try these studios sequels and new IPs, you will need to subscribe to Game Pass...
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That's how Howard does it.
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Themacabre
Member
Yes, an engine is a tool is the point, and for Bethesda games, their engine is the best tool for them, there is no other. Since we are bringing up magic, switching to Unreal wouldn't magically make their games any better or less buggy, so what would be the point? Other than people repeating the same old trope that their engine is a problem, it clearly isn't, as you have just pointed out, any engine can do anything, so why switch?
ChuckeRearmed
Member
During the demo Godd, should say something along the lines "See that ladder? You can climb it"
If there were crowd, they would be standing ovations
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Starfield
Member
Yes, for assets and its character/npc system
ChuckeRearmed
Member
Actually their engine was quite good. There literally no other engine on the market with that level of moddability and world design. In fact some new UE5 features (like I forgot how it is called but basically tile based world) was in Creation Engine since the very beginning.
I am very looking forward Creation Engine 2. TES6 should also come sooner than we expect as they won't need to create new engine.
No where did i mention Unreal. They mention the trope because unfortunately it's a correct one, the engine is the problem trust me, i know. It's a workflow problem, it's very slow to get things into the engine. Things you were doing 10 years ago, it cuts into time that could go elsewhere. It's very cumbersome and not user friendly, slow, buggy, just horrific.That's why many want to ditch it and use modern tech and workflows instead of being tied to old ways of doing things. They just recently added FBX's, and not even true fbx, just embarrassing.
DAHGAMING
Kentucky Fried Controller
Nah Essex, England bruv.
Iced Arcade
Member
Biggest game of 2022. Better put some elbow grease into that polish.
Themacabre
Member
Unreal is an example, but since you don't like that one, cross it off of the list and name another. Considering the size and scope of their games, I don't think it's as slow and cumbersome as you think, since the evidence proves otherwise and their games actually get released in a reasonable timeframe and in terms of scale of the world blows every other game out of the water. If these supposed new tech and workflows from your as-of-yet unnamed engine (but not Unreal) are so vastly superior, then where's the evidence to support that claim with perhaps an example game made with that engine that matches the ones that Bethesda produces?
No, the Creation Engine is more than adequate for their purposes, and is being constantly improved, switching wouldn't be better, just different in some ways, and for quite some time, far worse in terms of output.
SenjutsuSage
Banned
During the demo Godd, should say something along the lines "See that ladder? You can climb it"
Damn shame we won't get to see a crowd reaction of if he were to ever showcase a ladder being climbed in one of their games. It's something that would hilariously bring the house down in one of his oldschool public demos.
SenjutsuSage
Banned
As to their engine, the biggest reason I will continue to support them continuing to use it and not just ditching it for something else, improving and iterating it along the way is because Bethesda's teams build some of the most well realized and beautiful worlds in the business, and this game engine is a major part of what makes doing so such a powerful and convenient process for their creatives.
Ass of Can Whooping
Member
He's had no interviews confirming this. The exact opposite actually
MrTroubleMaker
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Pedro Motta
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Lognor
Banned
So based on history, will we get a big blowout at e3?
Bernkastel
Ask me about my fanboy energy!
I gotta love this whole gang who so love to project themselves on others. They are literally on a thread about a game in a platform they don't care about, calling others trolls. And I guess lick each others wounds.
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