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[adamsapple]

It's identical to diablo 4 physical sales on playstation+xbox? cause that would be actually impressive. But maybe he just meant identitcal to diablo 4 on xbox? idk, his not being very clear.

He's factoring in D4's PS5 physical sales as well.




It is pretty impressive that just the sheer physical sales alone are this high. Digitally, going by how Xbox games tend to do, it will have sold a lot more than physically.

Very good turnout indeed.

 

[Mr Moose]

It's identical to diablo 4 physical sales on playstation+xbox? cause that would be actually impressive. But maybe he just meant identitcal to diablo 4 on xbox? idk, his not being very clear.

I think he's talking all platforms and this one not having physical PC release (unless I missed it), yeah it's ahead of Diablo 4 PS5 + Xbox.

 

[Bernoulli]

so he has the numbers for EU too but can't disclose them

and he gets the numbers directly from xbox

 

[GHG]

~80% sales digitally based on historical trends.

but yes, dring man said game pass.

Can't be bringing that dirty word into a sales discussion.

 

[LakeOf9]

Good performance for a great game then

 

[Mr Moose]

so he has the numbers for EU too but can't disclose them

and he gets the numbers directly from xbox

I don't think he has the EU numbers yet (plus UK digital) I think he gets those near the end/start of the month.

 

[ShaiKhulud1989]

and he gets the numbers directly from xbox

>It doesn’t share Game Pass player counts.

Yeah, well, that will be another Halo Infinite charade without the proper sales figures it seems.

 

[Ass of Can Whooping]

Man I'm so triggered ama make some more steam accounts and get this pos to mixed reviews

 

[Elysium44]

Starfield is 24th in the Amazon UK top video games sales list at the moment FWIW. (It isn't just games, the top seller is a PSN gift card for example.)

Among the games, Spiderman 2 is 9th, Zelda TOTK 10th etc.

15th top seller is a PS5 console.

Amazon.co.uk Best Sellers: The most popular items in PC & Video Games

 

[kazuyamishima]

It's identical to diablo 4 physical sales on playstation+xbox? cause that would be actually impressive. But maybe he just meant identitcal to diablo 4 on xbox? idk, his not being very clear.

PS5+PS4+Xbox Series numbers for Diablo IV launch week in the UK were around 8k, but digital was about 83%+.

But my question is, if Xbox Games do 80%+ on digital sales in the UK, does that applies to Day One Gamepass titles too?

 

[Kilau]

it’s behind Hogwarts, Zelda, Star Wars, Resi 4, FF16 and Dead Island 2 on that list

But then...:



When you include gamepass even the impossible becomes possible.

When we all gamepass, we all win.

Schrödinger's Pass, every game is a sales success, maybe.

 

[Saber]

Great for them, but damn what dumb times we live that people have to put GP as a sales metric.

 

[ShaiKhulud1989]

Schrödinger's Pass, every game is a sales success, maybe.

'It's a great succes on a service we don't have any data on'

Basically all his tweets.

 

[feynoob]

All that matters is that Starfield can be played by a lot of people, whether you buy it or use gamepass.

That is what gaming is about. Play the game.

 

[Mr Moose]

Starfield is 24th in the Amazon UK top video games sales list at the moment FWIW. (It isn't just games, the top seller is a PSN gift card for example.)

Among the games, Spiderman 2 is 9th, Zelda TOTK 10th etc.

15th top seller is a PS5 console.

Amazon.co.uk Best Sellers: The most popular items in PC & Video Games

For September: https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/bestsellers/2023-09/videogames/

 

[HeisenbergFX4]

Not sure I have ever seen a game divide people like Starfield has

 

[Bernoulli]

For September: https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/bestsellers/2023-09/videogames/

they even have best sellers for new releases https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/new-releases/videogames/
Top 5

 

[DeepEnigma]

Not sure I have ever seen a game divide people like Starfield has

TLoU2

 

[Elysium44]

For September: https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/bestsellers/2023-09/videogames/

So not terrible but nor is it flying off the shelves. The PS5 is though, in 5th. Xbox Series S is down in 51st and then the Series X in 71st (this at a time we were told Starfield was making Xbox console sales skyrocket.)

 

[HeisenbergFX4]

TLoU2

 

[Bernoulli]

Not sure I have ever seen a game divide people like Starfield has

just wait until Starfield 2

 

[yazenov]

Is Diablo 4 physical numbers somehow a huge achievement now? Its physical sales are atrocious compared to its digital sales, where it sold the majority on PC.

Starfield will be similar because it’s on the two most digital platforms (PC & Xbox).

But saying it will do Diablo numbers digitally is a reach with no basis to back it up just because it did similar to it physically. Plus, starfield is also on Game Pass while Diablo 4 isn't on that service.

 

[Del_X]

since when gamepass counts in sales?

Since a company’s goal is make money?

It’s not a fucking basketball game.

 

[feynoob]

Not sure I have ever seen a game divide people like Starfield has

Because have nothing to do.
It's become your tribe vs my tribe.

If MS didn't buy Bethesda, this post would have had wars between which platforms sold the most like other games.

 

[harry mason 1989]

Not sure I have ever seen a game divide people like Starfield has

Spiderman 2 will be the next controversial game imo

 

[Pelta88]

#1 "Behind Hogwarts, Zelda, Star Wars, Resi 4, FF16 and Dead Island 2"

 

[feynoob]

Is Diablo 4 physical numbers somehow a huge achievement now? Its physical sales are atrocious compared to its digital sales, where it sold the majority on PC.



But saying it will do Diablo numbers digitally is a reach with no basis to back it up just because it did similar to it physically.

Diablo was both pc, Xbox and PS.
This is just Xbox+PC. Both platform have strong digital sales, so this boxed sales is worthless discussion.

 

[GHG]

TLoU2

Death Stranding was outright trench warfare and I loved every moment of it.

People tried to do my man Kojima dirty.

 

[Muddy]

Behind FF16 in physical charts.

Considered a failure by the same bunch who now consider Starfield a success.

Seriously you can’t make this up.

 

[harry mason 1989]

#1 "Behind Hogwarts, Zelda, Star Wars, Resi 4, FF16 and Dead Island 2"

What ?
It sold less then ff16 ?

 

[Elios83]

it’s behind Hogwarts, Zelda, Star Wars, Resi 4, FF16 and Dead Island 2 on that list)

So poor physical sales.
Don't understand the comparison Dring is making about Diablo 4 digital sales.
Diablo 4 was not on Gamepass. That is going to hurt digital sales as well.
I guess we'll find out later how much.

 

[ShaiKhulud1989]

Diablo 4 was not on Gamepass. That is going to hurt digital sales as well.

Yeah. Wild concept for a full-time writer. Don't ask questions, consume. If you question the stats (not the data), oh, you're hater or a SonyPony.

At this point I expect MS to switch to data-centers CO2 emissions to merit the game success in all honesty.

 

[feynoob]

Death Stranding was outright trench warfare and I loved every moment of it.

People tried to do my man Kojima dirty.

Those Amazon jokes were peak trolling.

 

[Kilau]

'It's a great succes on a service we don't have any data on'

Basically all his tweets.

Which is why he should have left out the bit on biggest launch with game pass included, especially since he is comparing it to games that didn’t launch on game pass.

 

[adamsapple]

So poor physical sales.
Don't understand the comparison Dring is making about Diablo 4 digital sales.
Diablo 4 was not on Gamepass. That is going to hurt digital sales as well.
I guess we'll find out later how much.

Game pass would hurt physical sales as well, why only digital ?

 

[Ass of Can Whooping]

Game pass would hurt physical sales as well, why only digital ?

You can't hurt what's already dead

 

[Elios83]

Game pass would hurt physical sales as well, why only digital ?

Physical sales are abysmal infact.

 

[GHG]

Game pass would hurt physical sales as well, why only digital ?

It's behind dead island 2 in the physical charts.

I think it's safe to say the physical sales have also been impacted.

 

[NikuNashi]

Diablo 4 was not free on gamepass, how can he draw a digital comparison? makes no sense.

 

[adamsapple]

Physical sales are abysmal infact.

Hence his Diablo 4 comparison. This did better physically than D4 on PS+Xbox combined and will have the bigger share of it's sales digitally. As Xbox games tend to anyway.

Game pass would have factored into both digital and physical sales.

It's behind dead island 2 in the physical charts.

I think it's safe to say the physical sales have also been impacted.

Yes, that's what I said as well. GP wouldn't just impact the potential digital sales.

 

[T-0800]

I wonder if all the physical sales are from people who don't have Gamepass. Digital sales could be zero. In theory.

 

[Dick Jones]

it’s behind Hogwarts, Zelda, Star Wars, Resi 4, FF16 and Dead Island 2 on that list

But then...:



When you include gamepass even the impossible becomes possible.

When we all gamepass, we all win.

Did he get his math from Professor Scott Steiner

 

[Muddy]

Gotta love the fact that Dring decided to include Gamepass in Launch sales.

Then says this doesn’t include digital.

Who in their right mind will purchase a digital copy on Xbox for full price when they can subscribe to Gamepass for 15 dollars.

Make it make sense.

Seriously the damage control going on for the saviour of Xbox.

 

[feynoob]

Digital sales could be zero. In theory.

that is impossble.
steam and majority of xbox users dont have gamepass.

this is also bethesda game. people buy them due to the length of their games.

unlike other xbox games, bethesda have loyal fans.

 

[yazenov]

Hence his Diablo 4 comparison. This did better physically than D4 on PS+Xbox combined and will have the bigger share of it's sales digitally. As Xbox games tend to anyway.

Game pass would have factored into both digital and physical sales.

Gamepass would have affected digital sales more than physical sales since as Christopher has suggested Xbox users consume more digital media than physical.

 

[feynoob]

Who in their right mind will purchase a digital copy on Xbox for full price when they can subscribe to Gamepass for 15 dollars.

does this mean gamepass has 40+m userbase?

 

[feynoob]

i wonder if people here can read stats or they think through their emotion?

 

[ShaiKhulud1989]

steam and majority of xbox users dont have gamepass.

It's not doing very hot on Steam, you know. Especially for a first (and arguably the best considering the word-of-mouth) weekend. It is also the only truly concrete data-point we have atm. Dring somehow extrapolate and inflate SF numbers through D4, but one can argue that SF sales could be less bombastic if we take Steam numbers as a relevant data-point (~1.44m PC owners based on VG Insights).

For reference, Fallout 4 shipped 12 millions in a week.

 

[ZehDon]

TLoU2

Yeah, we're getting close to that level. You can trigger folks to this day just by putting TLOU2 in a thread title - it's like a bat signal for defenders and detractors. Amazing stuff.

 

[Muddy]

Gamepass would have affected digital sales more than physical sales since as Christopher has suggested Xbox users consume more digital media than physical.

Exactly.

Dring thinks he is smart trying to use the 80% of Xbox sales are usually digital line.

Doesn’t work when the game is available on Gamepass.

Silly to compare it to Diablo 4.