Maybe if it drives new subs I guess?
The revenue is the only thing we can measure with the limited data we have now.
People who want to buy the game.
He's not saying gamepass uses should count as sales, just that each gamepass download is a user and thus adding to the total users of starfield.
He's not saying gamepass uses should count as sales, just that each gamepass download is a user and thus adding to the total users of starfield.
Hope that makes sense, the edibles are taking effect now
Sure, bigger digital share overall would naturally mean bigger impact on digital.
But the trailing posts I'm quoting to are saying things like
Dring thinks he is smart trying to use the 80% of Xbox sales are usually digital line.
Dring is correct about more sales being digital on Xbox, in the UK. We've seen that trend in pretty much all of these threads.
The game has been on top of the steam top seller charts for a couple of weeks now. It's also been swapping #1 and 2 with Madden on Xbox despite being on game pass.
but I guess if you say it enough, maybe it'll turn true.
Even if it sells alot or not, it means nothing to all of us here.
But by saying it could be the biggest launch of 2023 by including gamepass he is comparing it to those other games.He's not saying gamepass uses should count as sales, just that each gamepass download is a user and thus adding to the total users of starfield.
Hope that makes sense, the edibles are taking effect now
Yea I see what you're saying. Seems misleading, that comparison.
He's not saying gamepass uses should count as sales, just that each gamepass download is a user and thus adding to the total users of starfield.
Hope that makes sense, the edibles are taking effect now
You have to admit that a person who usually tweets about sales....adding Game Pass is a wee bit odd.
Yea I didn't think of the comparison that way in that post.
Respect your heritage bitch.
Im so tired of this bs. Todd nor Phil ever said that it was going to be game of the generation. The problem with you lames is that you critique games based off your fanboy rhetoric.
Poor dude provided all the receipts and got banned for his efforts.https://www.resetera.com/threads/st...ims-all-time-peak-steam.762960/post-111813990
Reeee mods couldn't handle the truth
It might not be equal in monetary gain, but both combined show a increased interest in playing the game. We can acknowledge that at least....he is using gamepass to say it's the biggest launch
it doesn't make sense at all unless now downloads and sales are equal
just wait for The Elder Scrolls VI...
How are you determining that?
How many xbox players are bathesda loyal fans?
I mean. You can try to pretend that having 2+ million copies sold in Early Access (unofficially) and 6 million players in first official day of general release in unsuccessful for new IP. I'm not gonna try to convince you otherwise.
300k concurrent users is pretty impressive for just steam. i mean it's no baldur's gate 3, but few games are.
Where did anyone say it was selling more than BG3? This is the mother of all strawman arguments.The Ministry of Truth has declared the official narrative. Your eyes can deceive you, don't trust them.
Amazon UK: Hardware
#12 PS5 Standard
#26 PS5 Digital
#69 Series S
#84 Series X
Amazon UK: Software
#7 FC 24 (PS5)
#9 Spider-Man 2 (PS5)
#23 FC 24 (Series X)
#24 Starfield (Series X)
https://www.resetera.com/threads/st...ims-all-time-peak-steam.762960/post-111813990
Reeee mods couldn't handle the truth
We will never know real numbers so we can't compare. 20m Halo players was touted as the game being a runaway success.
Who touted Halo Infinite as a runaway success?We will never know real numbers so we can't compare. 20m Halo players was touted as the game being a runaway success.
Halo Infinite attracts 20 million players to deliver biggest launch in series history
Not bad, chief.www.gamedeveloper.com
It was not
Until Microsoft restart giving real figures, good or bad, we are stuck in a endless cycle of sniping at either the package the info comes in or the lack of info.
Well, I' m not really sure of what he is doing, considering that the first game on his list , HL, had higher Steam sales and WAY higher physical sales. How can he expectingthat digital sale, for a game that is on GP, are high enough to make up for the difference ?
It always happen with every first party games
For a big Bethesda game? It's not, really.
So let me get this straightFor a big Bethesda game? It's not, really.
For context, this is how BGS games' peak counts on Steam usually look like:
Now, let's see the nuances -- especially in the context of how small Steam was back then.
- Fallout 4 = 472,962 (8 years ago)
- Starfield = 330,723 (2023)
So, Steam's CCU has increased by 388%. Meanwhile, Starfield's CCU has gone down by 30%. Ideally, it should have increased by at least 388%.
- In 2015, when Fallout 4 hit 473K, Steam had a CCU of 8.5 million.
- In 2023, when Starfield hit 330K, Steam has a CCU of 33 million.
Now, there is a valid argument that Steam's CCU is low because of PC Game Pass. Currently it is at #12 on the most played game on PC, behind Destiny 2!
Also, looking at this poll on the purple site, it is very evident that the game underperformed.
Overall, Starfield is at #27 on Steam's all-time peak list. A couple of games that had a higher CCU peak than Starfield: Hitman 2 and Life is Strange 2.
Before release, had anybody said that Starfield would have a smaller CCU than Hitman 2 and Life is Strange 2, they would got utterly mocked (and rightly so).
Microsoft did.
what is the source on that firs picture?For a big Bethesda game? It's not, really.
For context, this is how BGS games' peak counts on Steam usually look like:
Now, let's see the nuances -- especially in the context of how small Steam was back then.
- Fallout 4 = 472,962 (8 years ago)
- Starfield = 330,723 (2023)
So, Steam's CCU has increased by 388%. Meanwhile, Starfield's CCU has gone down by 30%. Ideally, it should have increased by at least 388%.
- In 2015, when Fallout 4 hit 473K, Steam had a CCU of 8.5 million.
- In 2023, when Starfield hit 330K, Steam has a CCU of 33 million.
Now, there is a valid argument that Steam's CCU is low because of PC Game Pass. Currently it is at #12 on the most played game on PC, behind Destiny 2!
Also, looking at this poll on the purple site, it is very evident that the game underperformed and below expectations.
Overall, Starfield is at #27 on Steam's all-time peak list. A couple of games that had a higher CCU peak than Starfield: Hitman 2 and Life is Strange 2.
Before release, had anybody said that Starfield would have a smaller CCU than Hitman 2 and Life is Strange 2, they would got utterly mocked (and rightly so).
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