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Starhawk |OT| Not Quite Warhawk, Yet Not Quite Like Anything Else
- Thread starter MoonsaultSlayer
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Square Triangle
Member
Grab the rocket launcher to even the odds and don't make your presense so apparant.
MoonsaultSlayer
Member
So anyone else think the dropships seen in the campaign will become dlc? Mobile spawn points with the ability to rain destruction. A2G, not A2A. Requires air support to remain effective.
As I understand it (haven't got the game yet, but watched a ton of Starhawk streams), you can't register a score with the enemy flag unless your own flag is planted in its original place in your base. So those guys on your team holding the enemy flag in the bunker are protecting themselves, waiting for your dropped flag to spawn back into your base so they can then score with the captured enemy flag.
Square Triangle
Member
Correct.
Just finished the story, pretty fun! It's a good ride. I really liked the pacing, the game never really let's up and you're always moving from one thing to the next. The seamless cutscenes really helped this too. It's got a few issues (like when a billion enemies are all shooting you at once and the screen getting so effected you can't do shit about it) but overall it's really solid and pretty polished. Good job LightBox!
How long did it take you to complete the campaign?
Wasn't really counting, I did it over 2 days, maybe 6-8 hours?
user8503492
Banned
So after purchasing Starhawk yesterday and playing a few rounds, I can see they have chosen to follow in the formula of every other PS3 exclusive mutiplayer game...
Being absolutely terrible and sucking the fun out it.
I'll just add to the pile next to KZ3 and R3 as a clear example of developers taking a formula that works and only needs a few tweaks and deciding to change it and make it horrible.
Such a waste a money and feels and looks nothing like Warhawk to me (is the player camera different, I feel like its up my guys ass...to close!). I cant for the life of me fly like I used too, the gun comabt is useless, and for some reason I just havent had those good moments were yoru rushing bases 10+ deep...now it just seems liek 1 team swarms the other and then its a full out attack on a main base.
Being absolutely terrible and sucking the fun out it.
I'll just add to the pile next to KZ3 and R3 as a clear example of developers taking a formula that works and only needs a few tweaks and deciding to change it and make it horrible.
Such a waste a money and feels and looks nothing like Warhawk to me (is the player camera different, I feel like its up my guys ass...to close!). I cant for the life of me fly like I used too, the gun comabt is useless, and for some reason I just havent had those good moments were yoru rushing bases 10+ deep...now it just seems liek 1 team swarms the other and then its a full out attack on a main base.
user8503492
Banned
Naw, Im trading it in.
Played enought to know the game wont have the longevity or the community that Warhawk did. They cluster fucked it up, and threw to much shit at the wall to see what stuck without figuring in balance or fun.
They could have saved millions and reduced the development time in half if they were smart and used the same formula and tweaked and updated it.
FrenchMovieTheme
Member
onadesertedisland
Member
I played the beta and sort of liked it, hoping the final product would be better. I have to say I am disappointed. I played the heck out of Warhawk, and Starhawk just doesn't have the same kind of feel to it. It feels like a generic shooter mixed with a pseudo RTS.
I kinda hate the hawks. I feel like I could obliterate a Starhawk with a Warhawk.
I kinda hate the hawks. I feel like I could obliterate a Starhawk with a Warhawk.
MarshMellow96
Member
R3 was a mess in mp, that's for sure.
This feels fine, you just need to be on a team that's organised.
This feels fine, you just need to be on a team that's organised.
test_account
XP-39C²
I dont really see how KZ3 is much different than KZ2 in terms of mechanics. Both games have the Warzone mode, which pretty much defined KZ2. The only difference is the maps (obviously) and the controls have been tweaked. The changes from R2 to R3 was however pretty big, going from 60 players to 16 players.
From the games I have played torpedo's seem to go through shields no problem.
user8503492
Banned
I agree..maybe I'm just being a little over emotional.
Its just I feel like I'm stuck in this cycle as a fan of Sony shooters when everytime I anticipate a sequel from a game I loved they almost like make a new game and I dont lile it.
Resistance did it 3 times in a row. Had a great SP in R1, had a shit MP in R2 but amazing co-op, then in R3 it dumped the amazing co-op but stayed with the shit MP.
Killzone did it too to me. Sure it had minor issues like rocket spam and base raping and of course the noted control issues everyone had (not me! lol), but beside the balance issues and control issues they too decided to dump 90% of the game and almost strat from scratch. From the looks, the CoD speedy controls, too the new class system...KZ3 was another clear example of starting almost from scratch when all you needed was some polish.
I'll try to give Starhawk some more time...but in the 10 rounds or so Ive played so far its been anything but fun. More then anything its been base rape or getting blown up from every angle while I waste my time using my machine gun.
And for the life of me..I just cant get the flying down.
To me I eithier have to fly like a slug or eractic. Something is missing from how the WH had speed/stability.
SapientWolf
Trucker Sexologist
Thing is, I can only think of a handful of action strategy hybrids, and Starhawk is the best one on the consoles almost by default.
Jasper Avenue
Member
Really starting to get a hang of this now.
Could I get an invite to the GAF clan?
PSN: PlatinumGuns
Could I get an invite to the GAF clan?
PSN: PlatinumGuns
Where?
PKM, this game is no longer the"WARHAWK SHOW". In my playthrough the game is very well balanced. There's so many options to choose from in terms of playstyle. Part of you frustration is stemming from bad coordination. The other is Starhawk pickups. You should build shit to protect you in air and sneak through the level finding shelds and heavy missiles. Then practice and explore other styles. Take the ass beating until you learn what's going wrong. It's still difficult for me but I am getting a alot better.
People say Zones is awesome.
http://twitpic.com/9k9mhg
https://twitter.com/#!/DylanJobe/status/201372178875289600
MoonsaultSlayer
Member
Yes. Zones is the standout competitive mode because it utilizes all of Starhawk's components perfectly. What use is build and battle if you've got nothing but home base to protect? Zones mode gives players incentive to leave home base AND gives meaning to staying behind and defending it. It's the absolute perfect mode for this style of gameplay. Hell, it even ties in with the lore with the whole extracting/defending rift energy. It's the mode I've always wanted. Perfect.
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Edit: One issue/bug I've experienced a couple times is being unable to press X to pod spawn. I'm within my team's area with a target lined up to smash and the game just refuses to acknowledge my button presses (since I mash it when it doesn't work immediately). Can't be my controller since it works fine elsewhere.
Square Triangle
Member
A weapons update? I hope it's to add more. One issue I have to the lack of weapons.
Its weapon balance issues.
They can make any fixes to the game without a patch in a day.
test_account
XP-39C²
I saw some mention of server bug earlier. Is this the bug that wont fill up the games? The last ~5 games i've played online there have only been like 3-4 people on each team.
The only major difference between KZ2 and KZ3 is the class system. But i dont think that this counts for 90% of the game. The controls are one of the things that got tweaked/polished (for the better or worse, but that is a personal preference). The graphic style is also very similar between KZ2 and KZ3.
MoonsaultSlayer
Member
So when can we expect a clan-wide meet up? Tomorrow being mother's day won't benefit me but any other day, if a time and date are planned ahead of time, I can absolutely make sure I'm there (work hours and emergencies notwithstanding).
CreateNowSleepLater
Member
MoonsaultSlayer
Member
wut? given the time-stamp is right, they work Saturday?
I finished the campaign today, story aside it rocked, they totally nailed the gun gameplay. Would have loved to see more jet pack sequences but overall great game.
Oh, man. It was finally clicking. I was running some godlike flag defence just now, seeing off challenger after challenger, and watching the enemy slowly start to work together to try and get past my defensive gauntlet. I was top player of the winning team. Only 5 minutes to go. I was finally going to actually rank up.
And then I got disconnected, losing everything.
See you in a few days, Starhawk.
And then I got disconnected, losing everything.
See you in a few days, Starhawk.
When a good match is going this game is really fun but to many matches are resulting in people staying in a base. The most fun I've had are the Zone maps where you are constantly trying to take and defend the center objective. Would like more maps with multiple points. Team Deathmatch and CTF can be very iffy at times. The wrong map with hawks just makes a match one sided and just very boring.
I'm always up for cooperative. I'm on right now of you're interested.
Square Triangle
Member
Mr_Appleby
Member
not true. rocket launcher + speedbike has served me well for guerrilla tank smashing, and fast enough to dodge incoming hawk fire.
FrenchMovieTheme
Member
preach on brother!
weekend_warrior
Banned
Oooh. Good thinking.
njean777
Member
The only things that need tweaking for me are the homing missile needs to be faster, flack weaker, and seeker missiles a bit stronger. Other then that I have no other problems about any of the other weapons. I am a beast on the Hawks, I was quite good in Warhawk also, but I like the fact that they made the Hawks easier to take down in this game as it could become a real shit fest on Warhawk if you were with a team that did not know how to use the Hawks. This game just feels more balanced so far to me, and I am loving it.
The reason I say the Flack needs to be weakend (hawk version BTW) is because it is just to easy to kill somebody with them, I literally almost get all my kills in the hawks with them. Unless I am attacking ground units of course.
The reason I say the Flack needs to be weakend (hawk version BTW) is because it is just to easy to kill somebody with them, I literally almost get all my kills in the hawks with them. Unless I am attacking ground units of course.
Square Triangle
Member
Nothing is more satifying than running into a game when your team aggressively captures the flag.
I feel like the Build n Battle influences too much of a decensive stance sometimes.
I feel like the Build n Battle influences too much of a decensive stance sometimes.