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Steam | 02.2016 - Orangeade
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Sure but there is still question what is better, bigger user base or money? In this case we can't compare it directly because Jonathan Blow already has audience but Campo Santo is new. I am not saying that one is better than the other i just want to start conversation and hear your opinions
i think jonathan blow wanted his game to be played by a particular subset of people which is why he marketed and priced his game as such
i don't agree with that way of thinking as i think games should be made accessible for as many ppl as possible (as in, don't put shit in ur game that's not solvable by the colorblind or hearing impaired) but u know, he set a goal and he achieved it
pantsattack
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When it comes and works immediately eBay the extra parts from your old rig. It'll lessen the cost and reduce redundancy. My hobby purchases mostly go like that and it makes me feel better about it.
I'm talking about digital games, not physical goods. We all know within three years both games will be bundled. And we know over time there will be deals. So by starting higher, it has more long term potential, so long as it makes enough in the beginning (which we know it has). Now if The Witness had sold 10k copies, we'd be having a different discussion. But the idea it would be a million seller of it had been $20 is silly. And a fair comparison can't be made after a month.
Oh yeah, would love to have it on Steam. I really liked that game . It was Medal of Honor+Sniper Elite +Hitman
They've talked a lot about this on GiantBomb and it's really tough topic. But in the end I can't get behind the idea of telling a developer with an interesting idea for a puzzle that they can't put it in their game because a minority of people won't be able to solve it. He sort of handled it by making the game completable (although not 100%) without those puzzles, but I can't really think of a great way to do it, outside of putting a "win" button in the area that anyone can use.
corrosivefrost
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I don't know that only "the first two months" matter for consoles anymore. It's not like the console space is ignorant of digital discounts and the like. Even retail copies in recent years have received quick discounts and can be found cheaply after the fact.
The only real difference now between consoles and Steam should be that there is a subset of console retail titles that can screw the publisher/developer out of sales because of the used market.
That's surprising.
I wonder what the sales numbers for Firewatch looked like without the refunds (not sure how many people from the thread on gaming side actually did that, or how much of the whole they represent).
Also worth noting that they can't leave reviews if it's refunded. Also that people who thought the game was alright but not worth buying at launch after playing it (yo!) don't really care enough to leave a negative review to try to educate people on the fence. Those reviews just get downvoted to hell by people who like the game, so they never get scene in the first place.
I e-mailed Merge's product manager and stressed the fact that since the game was available on Steam under Digital Game Factory, Merge can simply request access to the app and make it available again, thereby bypassing any heavy lifting. Fingers crossed.
PLASTICA-MAN
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I don't see why this Hitman is very demanding game. There have been much betetr looking games and and less demanding.
shortsFortallPeople
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I'm more interested in The Witness as a gaming curiosity but Firewatch is the one of the two i really want to play. The pedigree of the folks behind Firewatch is a big draw
it's likely an old build just being used for network testing. I wouldn't put too much into how it performs now, especially given that drivers haven't been optimized for it yet.
i need to start looking these things up lol
regardless, IO deserves the benefit of the doubt. They've never fucked up when putting their stuff out on PC.
as well as the short play time
it's likely an old build just being used for network testing. I wouldn't put too much into how it performs now, especially given that drivers haven't been optimized for it yet.
i need to start looking these things up lol
regardless, IO deserves the benefit of the doubt. They've never fucked up when putting their stuff out on PC.
Haven't played the Beta yet, but the latest Nvidia GameReady driver already included optimizations for the Hitman Beta.
corrosivefrost
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Yeah, it's not.
PLASTICA-MAN just didn't read everything, I think. The same guy who said he had a 980TI and it was greyed out posted another comment immediately after his last one saying this:
Timestamps on my local machine put the post at about 1:17pm EST. PLASTICA-MAN linked the reddit thread @ 1:25PM.
using different sets of colors, using shapes and patterns and sounds, etc.
jonathan blow is way smarter than me, i'm sure he could consider it a challenge and find a good way to make everyone happy
and then get praised and fellated on message boards and told how much of a "genius" he is
Adry9
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Been playing the Hitman Beta and performance is all over the place. I know it is an old build but the scenarios are also really small compared to Paris, and this games suffers a lot when you double the characters on screen. I think I'll wait a couple of days after release to see how it performs.
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maybe its because some people have taste and care about gameplay systems more than the amount of 'content' an open world is filled with
holygeesus
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Any idea why Steam in Big Picture Mode only recognises my 980ti as having 3GB of memory? Does anyone else with this card have this?
Crash Station
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If you want to call it a wasted opportunity, that's fair, but
calling it "transphobic" perpetuates the idea that cis men can't be feminine, which was the whole point of Chihiro's story in the first place due to Japan's more strict gender roles. It's the same with Naoto. Their stories are very much meant to be social commentaries, not exploitative.
Well, I mean, you can't put a sound puzzle in a game that deaf people will be able to solve.
corrosivefrost
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Hell, you can't put a sound puzzle in a game that tone deaf people will be able to solve. (I'm looking at you, Year Walk.)
Saw this quoted further down the page and having seen talk of The Witness and Firewatch, I thought it was about Jonathan Blow. :lol
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paperspace
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Using different sets of colors? How would that help?
Also if you look at the Giant Bomb interview thing you'll quickly see why he didn't make it easier for colorblind people or just made it different in general. Using shapes and patterns would make it too easy, and of course, would make it a whole new kind of puzzle.
Ah, so at least to some extent the issue is that the launcher is a bit screwy.
BPM reports 6GB for me. If you have your IGP installed, it might be reading that info instead.
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I think the idea would be to make sure that you don't put red and green together, but there are many different kinds of colorblindness. I know some games offer multiple color schemes for different types of colorblindness. However I can recall puzzles in the Witness where even that wouldn't help.
freshVeggie
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Oh, you're right.
shortsFortallPeople
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i don't know how colors work in the witness but some other games have made the colors have different features to them in colorblind mode.
For example, green would have a striped pattern and red wouldn't.
Just completed it. The game itself is simply Absolution 2.0, but I'm ok with it, because I loved Absolution.
During the "test" the game told me to perform several actions, but I just went to the target, killed him with a wrench and going away unnoticed without killing other people.
The performance is just horrible, here (4770, 8 gb and a 970).
supermetfreud
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Except
it's not about a cis boy being feminine; it's explicitly about a boy pretending to be a girl. Framing these problematizations of gender in this way reinforces the notion that people who, going by the game's logic, "suffer" from this vague ~gender confusion~ are liars who are hiding their "true identity." Just because a video game is exploring masculinity (specifically, its frailty and toxicity), doesn't mean it's doing it well. Especially since iirc the way the arc ends is basically just "you can still be a Man even if you're feminine," which is just...not good.
get this unfinished piece of trash off my hands pls
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Tizoc
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I admit he's done some good stuff, but he's kinda fallen off after the stuff seen in MGS4 and 5.
No specific one. Just...early 2016. Sometime this quarter. Next month latest by that.
Leafhopper
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My bets on mid or late March
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Internally it looks like it's set for release sometime between Feb 26th and 29th, so probably some time between those dates.
Of course, it could get pushed back again.
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Jawmuncher
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The answer is Mariah Carey, thought I'd save you all the trouble. Since i already have the game.
Don't all the SF games keep on giving? People still play SF2 competitively.
i wonder if you couldn't just use visual cues for some of that stuff to help deaf ppl
or more sound options so that ppl that have hearing difficulties could play with the volumes until they find something that they like
from what you're saying i'm guessing there's some sort of color combine puzzle going on?
it's a huge game, haven't seen every kind of puzzle yet
the puzzle i've found so far that i imagine could be a massive headache for colorblind ppl were some colored stars things that look like the papyrus puzzle from undertale
Chairmanchuck
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Damn Leafhopper!
What was the answer?
What was the answer?
TheAutomator
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Mijoo?
Leafhopper
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MGSIV was ok for me, yes there's a lot of unneeded fan service, but nothing compared to Quiet.
The plot was impossible to understand for non-MGS fans, but the game was solid and I liked it a lot.
He really dropped the ball with Peace Walker plot, that was a mess (plot relating).
The funny thing is, some of that stuff is also in MGSV, but it's like...a reference?
I mean,
the AI stuff was the base of PW, in MGSV there's the boss AI but it's used in TWO scenes and it's pretty much useless if not to hint about the fate of Strangelove. Yeah, he passed months fighting those AI in PW, but in MGSV he recovers the boss AI ONLY when someone tells him to do so.
MGSV is great, stealth related, but it's poor in other important aspect, like the plot, variation of enviroments, boring and repetitive tasks you are forced to do. I enjoyed it a lot, but only because I needed another huge stealth game and I love MGS. Excluding this, broken promises everywhere.
Ground Zeroes is a so much better product than TPP.
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