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[jim-jam bongs]

Yeah, but when a game goes on sale for steam, even though the publisher isn't as getting as much of the money, he's still getting the bulk of the money. Like if they sell a $50 for $30 they are getting 70% of that $30

Cd-key resellers are basically taking most of the profit. Publishers are actually trying to be nice and price games according to the market in Eastern Europe. But resellers are buying the game at $10 and reselling it for $30. So basically the publisher is getting $10 (or a cut of $10, rather) and the reseller getting the $20.

PC gamers are really shooting themselves in the foot by doing this by giving the money to the wrong people. You want to reward the people making the games in the first place, not the resellers...otherwise you're going to see publishers stop pricing games cheap in regions and/or region lock. Or even just stop making PC games.

So great, you save a few bucks in the short term, but screw your own hobby in the long term.

If this becomes so widespread that it's having a detrimental effect on their bottom line you can bet that publishers will do something about it. Until they do I can do without your sanctimonious comments about me "screwing my hobby" thanks very much.

 

[Chesskid1]

au8s92na0ka71 for 6% off discount on intkeys (on anything)

rage down to $32.89 with the code

no idea if it's referral or anything, i just googled intkeys coupons

 

[Card Boy]

Yeah, but when a game goes on sale for steam, even though the publisher isn't as getting as much of the money, he's still getting the bulk of the money. Like if they sell a $50 for $30 they are getting 70% of that $30

Cd-key resellers are basically taking most of the profit. Publishers are actually trying to be nice and price games according to the market in Eastern Europe. But resellers are buying the game at $10 and reselling it for $30. So basically the publisher is getting $10 (or a cut of $10, rather) and the reseller getting the $20.

PC gamers are really shooting themselves in the foot by doing this by giving the money to the wrong people. You want to reward the people making the games in the first place, not the resellers...otherwise you're going to see publishers stop pricing games cheap in regions and/or region lock. Or even just stop making PC games.

So great, you save a few bucks in the short term, but screw your own hobby in the long term.

When publishers are price gouging or region locking games from my country to an upward of 89.99USD, then my pocket>publishers. You screw me and i will cut the hand that feeds you. The same goes for Valve for even supporting price gouging and region locking tactics.

Hence why i buy all my Steamworks games from Greenman Gaming/D2D/Getgamesgo/Gamersgate nowdays, even if the game is on Steam for the exact same price.

 

[crimsonheadGCN]

I'm surprised that IntKeys doesn't stock Blizzard titles.

 

[LocoMrPollock]

The BioShock demo has an option for DX10 in its Graphics settings -- but both On and Off were greyed out and not selectable. Also, did I disable DX9 when I went into the settings and typed in -DX9? Sure, it got the demo to run, but I would prefer the demo run with all settings on high. My computer's powerful enough to do so, I just don't know why having DX9 on causes the demo to not run...

No you were forcing it to run in dx9 with the -dx9. Anyway if the dx10 option is greyed out then it is probably disabled for the demo.

Weird that it would try to start in dx10 though, so I dunno.

 

[Derrick01]

anyone know how to remove punkbuster? I did it once before like 5 months ago before me and some friends got back into bad company 2 but I can't for the life of me remember how, and google is not helping much so far.

 

[Joe Molotov]

Thar be lolis in my Steam ;_;

Recettear opened the floodgates, pretty soon we're gonna be hip-deep in rape sims.

 

[Gvaz]

Recettear opened the floodgates, pretty soon we're gonna be hip-deep in rape sims.

 

[equap]

Yeah, but when a game goes on sale for steam, even though the publisher isn't as getting as much of the money, he's still getting the bulk of the money. Like if they sell a $50 for $30 they are getting 70% of that $30

Cd-key resellers are basically taking most of the profit. Publishers are actually trying to be nice and price games according to the market in Eastern Europe. But resellers are buying the game at $10 and reselling it for $30. So basically the publisher is getting $10 (or a cut of $10, rather) and the reseller getting the $20.

PC gamers are really shooting themselves in the foot by doing this by giving the money to the wrong people. You want to reward the people making the games in the first place, not the resellers...otherwise you're going to see publishers stop pricing games cheap in regions and/or region lock. Or even just stop making PC games.

So great, you save a few bucks in the short term, but screw your own hobby in the long term.

Hey. Is this the Digital Premium Edition?? or is it just regular?
http://www.intkeys.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=74&products_id=287

 

[Aselith]

Recettear opened the floodgates, pretty soon we're gonna be hip-deep in rape sims.

Thank you, based Gaben!

 

[jim-jam bongs]

Recettear opened the floodgates, pretty soon we're gonna be hip-deep in rape sims.

I'm ready.

 

[Dice]

Empire/Napoleon... what to doooo... gaaaahhhh...

 

[Neiteio]

I'm downloading the full game of BioShock on Steam. Can I play Amnesia and it will keep downloading? How do I do that?

 

[jim-jam bongs]

I'm downloading the full game of BioShock on Steam. Can I play Amnesia and it will keep downloading? How do I do that?

I never do this but people have said that if you ALT+TAB back to the desktop and open Steam after you launch Amnesia you can resume the download then just switch back to the game.

 

[Turfster]

Alt-tab back to steam and push resume after starting the game.

 

[Snuggles]

I never do this but people have said that if you ALT+TAB back to the desktop and open Steam after you launch Amnesia you can resume the download then just switch back to the game.

Oh man, I'm loving the new avatar.

 

[jim-jam bongs]

Why thank you! I've been meaning to change it for a while so I decided to stick with my "cool chicks with revolvers" theme.

 

[Dice]

But why is it reminding me of Chaos Legion?

 

[Helmholtz]

I never do this but people have said that if you ALT+TAB back to the desktop and open Steam after you launch Amnesia you can resume the download then just switch back to the game.

Mind blown, for some reason I never thought of doing this.

 

[jaundicejuice]

Man, Psychonauts is still awesome after all these years.

I wish they'd put more of their games on PC. I'd double dip for games like Costume Quest and even Brutal Legend.

 

[spindoctor]

Why thank you! I've been meaning to change it for a while so I decided to stick with my "cool chicks with revolvers" theme.

Oh man which game is your avatar from? I know I've played it recently but it's name has just blanked out of my mind. She's a mute in the game right?

 

[VGChampion]

I wish they'd put more of their games on PC. I'd double dip for games like Costume Quest and even Brutal Legend.

I was just thinking I need to play Costume Quest again now that it's October. If it's going to hit Steam, now's the time if they want people like me who already bought the PS3 (360? Can't remember if it came out there.) version.

 

[Rufus]

Oh man which game is your avatar from? I know I've played it recently but it's name has just blanked out of my mind. She's a mute in the game right?

Sis, from Alpha Protocol.

 

[spindoctor]

Sis, from Alpha Protocol.

That's right. My memory has seemingly gone to hell

 

[Psi]

Nevermind, I found some info on it.

 

[jaundicejuice]

I have to download Joy to Key to get The Binding of Isaac to recognise the wired 360 pad hooked up to my PC, what. Seems like a strange step backwards given Super Meat Boy.

 

[Salsa]

I have to download Joy to Key to get The Binding of Isaac to recognise the wired 360 pad hooked up to my PC, what. Seems like a strange step backwards given Super Meat Boy.

flash game, cant do gamepad support

just download the file i made for the Isaac OT, run it and that's that.

 

[jaundicejuice]

Eh, that's alright, I solved the issue by uninstalling the game. Played it for half an hour, not a fan.

 

[Card Boy]

Empire/Napoleon... what to doooo... gaaaahhhh...

To buy? I got Napeleon, Rome Gold TW, and a Humble Bundle 2 key if you want to trade. I can do them all for a $10 game.

All Steam keys including Rome. I got them from GMG but my friend doesnt want them.

 

[charlequin]

Why thank you! I've been meaning to change it for a while so I decided to stick with my "cool chicks with revolvers" theme.

Thank god, now I can stop thinking you're that other guy who had a Cate avatar.

 

[MrNyarlathotep]

Publishers are actually trying to be nice and price games according to the market in Eastern Europe.

:lol

Publishers are trying to convert what would otherwise be pirates into consumers.

There's nothing nice about it.

 

[jim-jam bongs]

Thank god, now I can stop thinking you're that other guy who had a Cate avatar.

That man is clearly a person of great taste and distinction, there are worse people to be confused with in all fairness.

 

[Flunkie]

I'd totally buy Costume Quest on PC.

 

[Gravijah]

jim jam new avatar? sweet.

 

[morningbus]

I'd totally buy Costume Quest on PC.

I wonder how long it would take for the publishing rights for Double Fine's other games to revert back to them. Psychonauts took 6 years.

I guess we'll see ports of Costume Quest and Stacking in 2017...

=|

 

[1-D_FTW]

Yeah, but when a game goes on sale for steam, even though the publisher isn't as getting as much of the money, he's still getting the bulk of the money. Like if they sell a $50 for $30 they are getting 70% of that $30

Cd-key resellers are basically taking most of the profit. Publishers are actually trying to be nice and price games according to the market in Eastern Europe. But resellers are buying the game at $10 and reselling it for $30. So basically the publisher is getting $10 (or a cut of $10, rather) and the reseller getting the $20.

PC gamers are really shooting themselves in the foot by doing this by giving the money to the wrong people. You want to reward the people making the games in the first place, not the resellers...otherwise you're going to see publishers stop pricing games cheap in regions and/or region lock. Or even just stop making PC games.

So great, you save a few bucks in the short term, but screw your own hobby in the long term.

Agree with everything you say. These guys are worse than Gamestop IMO. Seeing people get excited about a new release selling for 37.xx bucks is puzzling to me. You're basically taking a legit sale away from the publishers, giving them one really low margin budget sale, and giving these skeevy backroom guys all the profits.

I could see the logic if they were pricing them cheaply, but they're barely any cheaper than the retail prices. They're undercutting by only slightly more than Gamestop does with their used games (and they pay a lot less than Gamestop is paying for those used copies). This is not good for the industry. I'm not one to champion anti-consumer tactics, but in the end, the consumer is going to end up getting hurt by this. Something is going to have to give.

 

[JaseC]

Agree with everything you say. These guys are worse than Gamestop IMO. Seeing people get excited about a new release selling for 37.xx bucks is puzzling to me. You're basically taking a legit sale away from the publishers, giving them one really low margin budget sale, and giving these skeevy backroom guys all the profits.

I could see the logic if they were pricing them cheaply, but they're barely any cheaper than the retail prices. They're undercutting by only slightly more than Gamestop does with their used games (and they pay a lot less than Gamestop is paying for those used copies). This is not good for the industry. I'm not one to champion anti-consumer tactics, but in the end, the consumer is going to end up getting hurt by this. Something is going to have to give.

Sorry, but I'm not going to reward publishers who impose the "Aussie Tax". For instance, I paid $25 for my Space Marine key because I sure as shit wasn't going to pay USD$90. Activision is the worst offender yet; they've priced Modern Warfare 3 at USD$99.99.

 

[1-D_FTW]

Sorry, but I'm not going to reward publishers who impose the "Aussie Tax". For instance, I paid $25 for my Space Marine key because I sure as shit wasn't going to pay USD$90.

I'm not referring to you guys. The publishers fuck you guys over and get what they deserve. I'm talking about the USA market where first day guys are saving only a couple dollars by going with this.

It's not healthy for the industry's long term health when first day sales are going to back room guys in Russia. It completely trashes the profitability (and reason for getting ported) when all the revenue is going to a handful of guys ripping open discounted boxes meant for poor nations and just barely undercutting the US retail price.

 

[Meatpuppet]

Sorry, but I'm not going to reward publishers who impose the "Aussie Tax". For instance, I paid $25 for my Space Marine key because I sure as shit wasn't going to pay USD$90. Activision is the worst offender yet; they've priced Modern Warfare 3 at USD$99.99.

Why not sort a trade with a Gaffer in the UK, US or any other country with comparable GDP to Australia.

 

[JaseC]

I'm not referring to you guys. The publishers fuck you guys over and get what they deserve. I'm talking about the USA market where first day guys are saving only a couple dollars by going with this.

It's not healthy for the industry's long term health when first day sales are going to back room guys in Russia. It completely trashes the profitability (and reason for getting ported) when all the revenue is going to a handful of guys ripping open discounted boxes meant for poor nations and just barely undercutting the US retail price.

Oh, right. My mistake.

Why not sort a trade with a Gaffer in the UK, US or any other country with comparable GDP to Australia.

The publishers in question aren't deserving of compromise.

 

[K.Jack]

If these CD-key sites bring region locking to the PC, my ninjas are coming for your fucking heads.

 

[sk3tch]

Agree with everything you say. These guys are worse than Gamestop IMO. Seeing people get excited about a new release selling for 37.xx bucks is puzzling to me. You're basically taking a legit sale away from the publishers, giving them one really low margin budget sale, and giving these skeevy backroom guys all the profits.

I could see the logic if they were pricing them cheaply, but they're barely any cheaper than the retail prices. They're undercutting by only slightly more than Gamestop does with their used games (and they pay a lot less than Gamestop is paying for those used copies). This is not good for the industry. I'm not one to champion anti-consumer tactics, but in the end, the consumer is going to end up getting hurt by this. Something is going to have to give.

Rage is almost 50% off the release day price. I would consider that priced cheaply. There's no "Anarchy Edition" when buying from those guys. So I guess that's an incentive created by the publisher that would lead to (some) buying the game locally versus the lowest common denominator.

Steam doesn't let me re-sell or trade my games if I don't like them. So I buy games that I am interested in but that I am not sure I will like at the cheapest price I can find.

 

[Dice]

To buy? I got Napeleon, Rome Gold TW, and a Humble Bundle 2 key if you want to trade. I can do them all for a $10 game.

All Steam keys including Rome. I got them from GMG but my friend doesnt want them.

No, I meant the pack of Empire/Napoleon with all DLC. It has been between $10 and $15 like 3 times now and I'm poor so I think I'm gonna wait.

 

[MRORANGE]

CD Key Sites

according to steam forums they are << Unauthorized Reseller >> whenever you insert g2play.net into a steam forum post. I guess it also applies to the others as well.

Most of them seem to be ok, but your still taking a chance. The only instance I heard of retracting keys was Modern Warfare 2 and be to fair it was Activision who pulled those keys.

 

[TouchMyBox]

So great, you save a few bucks in the short term, but screw your own hobby in the long term.

I'm not crying for publishers who think charging us a console tax is a good idea.

The alternative is me not buying the game, or waiting for the $10 steam sale.

 

[denomes]

CD Key Sites

according to steam forums they are << Unauthorized Reseller >> whenever you insert g2play.net into a steam forum post. I guess it also applies to the others as well.

Most of them seem to be ok, but your still taking a chance. The only instance I heard of retracting keys was Modern Warfare 2 and be to fair it was Activision who pulled those keys.

I did a bit of research on this over the weekend because I was looking into getting a copy of RAGE on the cheap.

The sites I was looking at (I think it was IntKeys and BuyGameCDs) both get their keys from retail boxes (if I understand correctly). I don't imagine you'd have any trouble with these sites if this is truly the case.

For Steamworks titles, the only way that Steam is able to track that you may have purchased a key online (theoretically) is because you're redeeming a retail code from a box outside of the region to which your account belongs.

Seems pretty safe, but I guess there is still a slight risk. I'm still on the fence personally.

 

[XeroSauce]

I'm not crying for publishers who think charging us a console tax is a good idea.

The alternative is me not buying the game, or waiting for the $10 steam sale.

Best way to enjoy games. Hell, I got Alpha Protocol for $2. I am only now enjoying Fallout New Vegas instead of getting it at release, and I love it.

Playing games at a slow pace or with a huge backload can save you a lot of money.

 

[Nymerio]

I am actually working for a cd key shop. We get the keys directly from the box. We usually cut the codes out of the manuals and scan them in, or in case of gametime cards like wow, we scan the whole card. There's nothing shady going on there.

 

[denomes]

I am actually working for a cd key shop. We get the keys directly from the box. We usually cut the codes out of the manuals and scan them in, or in case of gametime cards like wow, we scan the whole card. There's nothing shady going on there.

Yeah, I think it's pretty legit. When this method is applied, it's really no different than GAFers gifting games across territories to take advantage of regional pricing.

 

[K.Jack]

I am actually working for a cd key shop. We get the keys directly from the box. We usually cut the codes out of the manuals and scan them in, or in case of gametime cards like wow, we scan the whole card. There's nothing shady going on there.

Depends on how you look at the amount you're marking up the prices at resale.