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STEAM- Announcements & Updates 2011 Edition

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Sblargh

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Really enjoying The Witcher, despiste it not realizing how it suddenly become a porn movie before going back to the normal game.

"I am not an evil witch!" "Prove!" "Ok, let's fuck." "ohhh yeah"
 

Maxrunner

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Regarding Portal 2 is there any advantage of buying the pc version of the ps3 one? since the ps3 seems to include the pc/mac version?
 

Stallion Free

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Maxrunner said:
Regarding Portal 2 is there any advantage of buying the pc version of the ps3 one? since the ps3 seems to include the pc/mac version?
You can get it for for 40$ if you 2-pack with someone and skip getting that PS3 copy you will never touch anyways.
 

Stumpokapow

listen to the mad man
Stallion Free said:
You can get it for for 40$ if you 2-pack with someone and skip getting that PS3 copy you will never touch anyways.

But Portal 2 PS3 on Amazon.com is $54 and comes with a $20 credit, so it'd be less than $40 total, you wouldn't have to 2-pack with anyone, and once the DRM for the Steamworks thing is sorted out you can almost certainly flip the PS3 copy for cash, further lowering the price.
 

markot

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Stumpokapow said:
But Portal 2 PS3 on Amazon.com is $54 and comes with a $20 credit, so it'd be less than $40 total, you wouldn't have to 2-pack with anyone, and once the DRM for the Steamworks thing is sorted out you can almost certainly flip the PS3 copy for cash, further lowering the price.
Not alot of cash im guessing if alot of PC users go this route, not to mention there will be no PC version for second hand copies >.<
 

Stallion Free

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Second hand PS3 copies are almost guaranteed to be severely gimped, allowing only single-player and split-screen, but no online functionality until you get a new Steam key.

Also, 20$ credit has to be spent on something else meaning you have to make further purchases.
 

Lumine

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Stumpokapow said:
But Portal 2 PS3 on Amazon.com is $54 and comes with a $20 credit, so it'd be less than $40 total, you wouldn't have to 2-pack with anyone, and once the DRM for the Steamworks thing is sorted out you can almost certainly flip the PS3 copy for cash, further lowering the price.

Are you really sure you want to condone that kind of behaviour? Because if everyone ends up re-selling their PS3 copies anyway I'm sure this will be the last time a company will try something this generous.

Oh and I'm quite sure there will be stores selling PS3 Portal for 40.
 

Burekma

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Sooo, I just noticed a certain "Dirt 3 Retail" entry in the Steam Registry.

Mistake? Betrayalton? Or are they going the Relic route?

Any official word on this yet?
 

1-D_FTW

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Burekma said:
Sooo, I just noticed a certain "Dirt 3 Retail" entry in the Steam Registry.

Mistake? Betrayalton? Or are they going the Relic route?

Any official word on this yet?

Codemasters games are always Day 1 on Steam. It's already confirmed as GFWL though, so don't go thinking Steamworks is involved.
 

Burekma

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I know that, it's the retail part that bothered me. Usually, only retail games that can be registered on Steam get such entries. And I was 99% sure it was a GFWL title, hence why I asked.

EDIT: And I completely forgot Relic are now Steamworks only, lol. What I meant by that was using Steam as DRM only, the way Relic used to roll. It is a possibility, right?
 

Stumpokapow

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Stallion Free said:
Second hand PS3 copies are almost guaranteed to be severely gimped, allowing only single-player and split-screen, but no online functionality until you get a new Steam key.

Also, 20$ credit has to be spent on something else meaning you have to make further purchases.

Let's say you flip the PS3 copy five seconds after you receive it for $0.25. It'd still be cheaper to buy PS3+PC on Amazon than just PC in a 2-pack... and unless you're willing to honestly tell me that you never buy anything off Amazon, the "you'll have to buy something in the future" argument is pretty silly. Most people in this thread order multiple orders off Amazon every year.
 

1-D_FTW

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Burekma said:
I know that, it's the retail part that bothered me. Usually, only retail games that can be registered on Steam get such entries. And I was 99% sure it was a GFWL title, hence why I asked.

EDIT: And I completely forgot Relic are now Steamworks only, lol. What I meant by that was using Steam as DRM only. It is a possibility, right?

I'm not sure if you could technically bypass GFWL DRM and then add Steamworks only DRM. Seems like an awful lot of work and not exactly Codemasters style.

Wasn't aware about the whole retail designation, though. Would be nice if true. This would at least be better than straight GFWL DRM.

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Burekma said:
I know that, it's the retail part that bothered me. Usually, only retail games that can be registered on Steam get such entries. And I was 99% sure it was a GFWL title, hence why I asked.

EDIT: And I completely forgot Relic are now Steamworks only, lol. What I meant by that was using Steam as DRM only, the way Relic used to roll. It is a possibility, right?


It's probably both. Like Dawn of War 2 and Chaos Rising.
 

UrbanRats

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So, here's the thing:

I have all my steamgames and stuff on E: drive.
I had my OS on C: drive.

Had some problems, formatted C:, kept E: intact (hoping i didn't had to re-download every game).
kept the documents folder too (these were on C:, though) for the saves.

Now C: is fresh and clean, how can i put steam back on, keeping what i already got on E:?
 

G-Fex

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Guys! I just updated my video card drivers (They were apparently severely behind) Amazing! I can actually run saints row 2 in high quality. Awesoooooome!
 
Forkball said:
No mid-week sale? OR MAYBE THEY ARE WAITING BECAUSE THEY WILL REVEAL SOMETHING SUPER AMAZING OH MY GOD

"indie game no one's ever heard of #26 half off, deal expires thursday"

It's what I'm expecting at least
 

erpg

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Yeah, screw interesting indie games, gimme the quarterly Dawn of War or Total War sale again. Better yet, let's go back to putting Torchlight on sale every three weeks.

My personal favorite is dead multiplayer game though. Come on Shattered Horizon, you put out an update. Let's see another free weekend and discount.
 

plc268

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jakershaker said:
Yikes, did EA sponsor the bandwidth for Darkspore Beta or what. Getting 8.9mb/s download, never got close to that from Steam before.

And I'm only getting 500kb/s and I normally get 2-2.5mb/s
 
Lyphen said:
Yeah, screw interesting indie games, gimme the quarterly Dawn of War or Total War sale again. Better yet, let's go back to putting Torchlight on sale every three weeks.

My personal favorite is dead multiplayer game though. Come on Shattered Horizon, you put out an update. Let's see another free weekend and discount.

Either way I end up not purchasing things, either due to lack of interest or in your examples I probably have it already. I'd rather they put more interesting big budget games that don't see frequent sales up. I'd love to see a Bulletstorm sale since Amazon got one, but yeah...EA
 

kpeezy

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Stumpokapow said:
the "you'll have to buy something in the future" argument is pretty silly. Most people in this thread order multiple orders off Amazon every year.

Yep, and there are thousands of other things you could buy on amazon instead of spending gas going to the store. Papertowels or whatever you need can be found on amazon and then the price difference is more tangible.
 

graywolf323

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Stumpokapow said:
Let's say you flip the PS3 copy five seconds after you receive it for $0.25. It'd still be cheaper to buy PS3+PC on Amazon than just PC in a 2-pack... and unless you're willing to honestly tell me that you never buy anything off Amazon, the "you'll have to buy something in the future" argument is pretty silly. Most people in this thread order multiple orders off Amazon every year.

I had over 60 last year :-s
 

erpg

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Ickman3400 said:
Either way I end up not purchasing things, either due to lack of interest or in your examples I probably have it already. I'd rather they put more interesting big budget games that don't see frequent sales up. I'd love to see a Bulletstorm sale since Amazon got one, but yeah...EA
I guess in my case, I'm so done with big budget PC ports like Bulletstorm (and Mass Effect 2) that I'm just having more fun with cheap indie games. Add to that my 'alt-tab ADHD' and smaller gaming experiences just work better for me. So I like seeing them on sale, even if they don't always catch my interest. I wouldn't really have known about Rush, Toki Tori, Trine, Defense Grid or Greed Corp if it weren't for their sales.

Ah, I'm so glad Starcraft 2 has a disable Windows key and disable alt tab option.
 

Opiate

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Stumpokapow said:
Let's say you flip the PS3 copy five seconds after you receive it for $0.25. It'd still be cheaper to buy PS3+PC on Amazon than just PC in a 2-pack... and unless you're willing to honestly tell me that you never buy anything off Amazon, the "you'll have to buy something in the future" argument is pretty silly. Most people in this thread order multiple orders off Amazon every year.

Opportunity cost. I can say with confidence that anything that I sell for .25, regardless of the product, is a net loss in resources for me. I would have saved resources by simply keeping it or throwing it away.

That doesn't mean the PS3 version isn't worth getting: I'm just pointing out that a severely gimped secondary copy could legitimately not be worth selling if the price was low enough. Almost anything worth less than 1.00 is not worth finding a buyer for unless your alternative opportunities are virtually worthless.
 
jakershaker said:
Yikes, did EA sponsor the bandwidth for Darkspore Beta or what. Getting 8.9mb/s download, never got close to that from Steam before.

You have a 80-100Mb internet connection at your house?

I pay for a server with a 100Mb connection and I think it's so futuristic and so far removed from having in the reality of my own home. :( So yeah, I'm jelly.
 
TouchMyBox said:
You have a 80-100Mb internet connection at your house?

I pay for a server with a 100Mb connection and I think it's so futuristic and so far removed from having in the reality of my own home. :( So yeah, I'm jelly.

100Mb but it doesn't really help with Steam though, usually it's around 2-2,5mb/s. Darkspore was faaaast though.
 

MNC

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My plan: Buy PS3 version for 40 Euros on zavvi, keep both versions. Play splitscreen when people come over on PS3, play superior PC version whenever I can online. It's a win-win situation, why are people having trouble with this? :3
 

nexen

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MNC said:
My plan: Buy PS3 version for 40 Euros on zavvi, keep both versions. Play splitscreen when people come over on PS3, play superior PC version whenever I can online. It's a win-win situation, why are people having trouble with this? :3
Because it seems too good to be true.

Is there something hidden here? Like maybe the PC version that comes with the PS3 version is actually only an extended demo or something?

It seems like Valve is directly saying "Only buy the PS3 version." Which makes me a bit nervous that something is hidden in the fine print. Maybe I'm just paranoid.
 
jakershaker said:
100Mb but it doesn't really help with Steam though, usually it's around 2-2,5mb/s. Darkspore was faaaast though.

Have you tried out different download locations in settings for all of the servers located remotely close to you? Something a little less overworked? Even I get 2-2.5 MB/s on my 15Mb cable connection (with speedboost)
 

IrishNinja

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huh, might try darkspore. my connection was so shitty, lead & gold trial was over before i finished...what happens to that data on my drive, is it just sitting there or wha?
 
nexen said:
Because it seems too good to be true.

Is there something hidden here? Like maybe the PC version that comes with the PS3 version is actually only an extended demo or something?

It seems like Valve is directly saying "Only buy the PS3 version." Which makes me a bit nervous that something is hidden in the fine print. Maybe I'm just paranoid.


It's like a trojan horse for Steam. Get console users to see how great the service is and before long they will get sucked into buying games they will never play.

Most PC users think they're too good to own a Triple anyway and will still buy the PC version.

Or maybe the Triple disc will come with an activation code for both the PS and PC versions, giving it no resell value to gamestop, because I'm pretty sure I read something about Steamworks coming to PSN, so maybe it's gonna bring its DRM as well.
 

chixdiggit

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MNC said:
My plan: Buy PS3 version for 40 Euros on zavvi, keep both versions. Play splitscreen when people come over on PS3, play superior PC version whenever I can online. It's a win-win situation, why are people having trouble with this? :3

To play the PC version you have to link your PSN account to your Steam account. Can we do this already? I want to be guaranteed to play Portal 2 on my PC on day one. Not enter a bunch of codes, download updates and hope it works.
 

K.Jack

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LocoMrPollock said:
It's probably both. Like Dawn of War 2 and Chaos Rising.
And thank the Emperor, that Relic corrected that mistake.

I'm done with GFWL. If your game uses it, you lost a sale.
 

MRORANGE

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Maxrunner said:
Regarding Portal 2 is there any advantage of buying the pc version of the ps3 one? since the ps3 seems to include the pc/mac version?

correct answer:

buying the pc version on steam ensures all profits go to valve and not sony/ea :)
 
chixdiggit said:
To play the PC version you have to link your PSN account to your Steam account. Can we do this already? I want to be guaranteed to play Portal 2 on my PC on day one. Not enter a bunch of codes, download updates and hope it works.

I keep trying to find out if we can link accounts on the playstation site (using our passwords) since my ps3 died. I just don't want to give up the great deal that amazon is doing with the ps3 version.

I don't plan on flipping the ps3 version of portal 2 either, I'll keep it for when I get a new ps3.
 
LocoMrPollock said:
It's like a trojan horse for Steam. Get console users to see how great the service is and before long they will get sucked into buying games they will never play

Except AFAIK there isn't going to be a Steam Store on the PS3. Unless I've missed something somewhere. (Maybe I have). It would seem that Valve has to make less profit on the PS3 version due to phyiscal cost and license fees to Sony, so there has to be some reason to make it so attractive.
 
I bet all other Valve games go on sale during the Portal 2 release window. They're definitely going to want to condition people who came from PS3 to buying games on steam.
 

G-Fex

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I seriously am going to quit WoW

I don't know if this is the thread to ask but since they're both on steam, I'm in for a new MMO, Rift or DC Universe?
 
Dr. Zoidberg said:
Except AFAIK there isn't going to be a Steam Store on the PS3. Unless I've missed something somewhere. (Maybe I have). It would seem that Valve has to make less profit on the PS3 version due to phyiscal cost and license fees to Sony, so there has to be some reason to make it so attractive.


No, but it will get console users who have no idea what Steam is, to install it on their computers and then add their console friends to their steam friends and then start looking at other games on the service and start seeing the crazy sells and so on and so forth.

Also probably just trying to get more sales of the PS3 version, even though they make less profit per sale, there's still a large market for them there and Valve wants a piece of the pie.
 

1-D_FTW

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Geoff9920 said:
*Shift 2 appears on Steam*

Fuckyeah.gif

*Reads TAGES DRM*

Fuck that.

I suppose it's better than holding it for another 2 weeks.

But the 40 extra events and 3 cars for the pre-order are gone.

Really was a stupid decision. The impressions are beginning to turn to ass in the official thread and they lost some impulse buys when the buzz and incentive was still there.
 

MRORANGE

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Geoff9920 said:
*Shift 2 appears on Steam*

Fuckyeah.gif

*Reads TAGES DRM*

Fuck that.

oh EA how you changed....

http://hellforge.gameriot.com/blogs/Hellforge/EA-Games-to-release-DRM-free-titles-on-Steam
Seeing as how Rockstar manhandled the recent release of Grand Theft Auto IV by embedding countless DRM procedures into the game, EA Games has decided that it will not make the same mistake and has instead opted to remove the SecuROM protection from the games that it will be releasing on Steam.
 
IrishNinja said:
huh, might try darkspore. my connection was so shitty, lead & gold trial was over before i finished...what happens to that data on my drive, is it just sitting there or wha?
It's pretty terrible. It takes the unfun parts of Spore (the combat) and makes a whole game out of it, yet removes the only feature that made Spore worth the money (the editors).

It's a strange design choice. I would rather have a Spore game that is 90% creation and 10% combat, since creation is Spore's strong point.


My 12 year old brother even told me that if there wasn't a demo, he probably would have bought the game. That's how bad it is. If EA wants to sell mediocre 50 dollar games, they really shouldn't give a demo highlighting just how bad the game is.
 
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