I feel like an idiot for buying From Dust. I just got around to playing it and it installed Ubisoft's uplay shit. I can't even play it unless I make a uplay account and sign in with it. Makes me so angry. Steam should not sell games that require shit like uplay or windows live or whatever. I feel ripped off.
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Mackenzie 92
Member
Just crack it. Should still be able to launch from Steam.
Glass Rebel
Member
LiquidMetal14
hide your water-based mammals
Steam's done that to me about 3 times. It's annoying.
Joe Molotov
Member
I just pushed an internal button in my brain that says "I wish I was skinny and handsome." Let's see where this goes.
I just spent half an hour figuring out how to get to the blotter you have to double click the friends tab which makes no sense as the rest of steam operates on one click. I actually got to it once before by accident and hit the back button staring at the groups pages trying to figure out how I got from groups to blotter. Terrible decision to have friends tab go to the last page you opened on it so it kept going to my profile. Is this UI decision bad or am I just dumb?
AppleSmack
Banned
What worries me is not the part about class action lawsuits. It's the fact that they can at any point unilaterally change the license agreement and I lose access to my games if I don't agree with it. Well that and their BS about their service being a "subscription" and not a place where you buy games (and then send you emails thanking you for your "purchase", i.e. having their cake and eating it too).
So I can still buy DRM-free games, as well as those on any download service that doesn't have this practice.
Glass Rebel
Member
I didn't say I will absolutely boycott Steam, but I will definitely spend less money there. Basically I will only buy any game I really want and that I can't find anywhere else. For example, purchasing something on impulse because it looks interesting will be a thing of the past for me...
I will try to put my money where my mouth is, which is what everyone should do.
I like Steam/Valve but I do rather agree with some of these points. If I recall correctly the Steam store has "Buy" buttons instead of "Subscribe" or "Add Subscription" buttons as well.
I'm pretty sure I have seen people mention this mutliple times, so I got curious enough to check. Origin license agreement:
http://tos.ea.com/legalapp/eula/US/en/ORIGIN/
Subscription/license stuff aside (not sure if it's comparable to Steam), where in there does it mention lawsuits, class action or otherwise?
For that matter, can you link me to at least two other services' license agreements that do have class action options, since you said that all the other services have them? (even GoG?)
Kinda agree with you. It's weird how I can be prohibited to play games I bought a long time ago if I don't accept a license agreement that wasn't actually valid when I bought the games in question.
I could understand if they would prohibit me from buying new games unless I accept, but not playing games I bought before the new license agreement.
iNvid02
Member
2MF raises a valid point which has been discussed at length both over in GAFs own subscriber agreement thread, and on the massive thread in the steam forums.
Not accepting the agreement should not prevent you from accessing your games, especially considering restricted and suspended accounts still retain access to their purchases.
Not accepting the agreement should not prevent you from accessing your games, especially considering restricted and suspended accounts still retain access to their purchases.
Planet_JASE
Member
I've sent you a friend request on Steam.
Glass Rebel
Member
No, I understand. It really is a shit thing to do and I hope that Valve listens to the community as they've done in the past. Knowing them it'll be a long time until they fix it though :/
I'm sorry if I came off as condescending but because it's Valve I trust them to do right by their consumers.
Are you the Planet Hulk version of JaseC?
Boss Doggie
all my loli wolf companions are so moe
Man I wish Steam would tell me if a friend changed his username. It gets confusing sometimes :/
AppleSmack
Banned
I think online retailers are trying to change the definition of "buy" on the internet. They don't consider it to be the same as buying a physical item at a retailer.
Joe Molotov
Member
Sony and Microsoft have clauses like this for XBLA/PSN.
You're right (http://www.sonyentertainmentnetwork.com/terms-of-service/ and http://www.xbox.com/en-US/legal/livetou).
However, that's not what the claim was, was it? The claim was "all the other services have similar garbage about class action lawsuits". I guess I think of "the other services" as "other digital retailers on PC than Steam" rather than "console digital services", but maybe I misunderstood the intent there.
Also, I'm no lawyer, but the PSN license agreement does seem to have an option about opting out of the class action waiver via sending a notice in writing, but I didn't see anything saying you would lose access to all your previously purchased games if you did that...is that the case? I'm not familiar with PSN.
Ah thanks, it's in there then. I found the Origin TOS first and didn't realize there was a second EA one. A brief search didn't turn up a class action waiver for Amazon digital download but I might have just missed it as well.
That is a valid point, but I don't think it's a point to be overly concerned about. If Valve ever did anything that actually affected your ability to play previously purchased games or similar action there would be such a shit storm that would be the end of Valve. Why would they do that. So far all these EULA changes are just CYA.
I'm not worried and will continue to buy off Steam as my preferred method. Now back to TF2.
Huevos de Oro
Member
Wow Joe, have you lost some weight as of lately?
Yeah, I feel irrationally attracted to him now. And I have this desire to purchase every Steam game on the store.
New Community stuff lets you add Nicknames to people on your friends list, which stays static across their name changes. Super helpful, I have people on my list who change names (what feels like) hourly.
HP_Wuvcraft
Banned
They have a new system where you can see past usernames.
Glass Rebel
Member
You should have known better than contacting Steam support that close to the weekend.
View aliases has been in Steam for years, the only new thing is that you can actually change names now.
Wait, they close on a weekend? Ugh. GMG got back to be in like 4 hours.
Glass Rebel
Member
Not officially but from what I've heard you have practically no chance to receive an answer over the weekend.
SteveWinwood
Member
Valve should hire me for support. I'd work weekends.
Snkfanatic
Banned
Thanks go to Fuzzy for giving me a Steam Community invite! I like the additions to it so far.
Stronghammer22
Member
Delete clientregistry.blob. When you start Steam, it will "update" for 5-10 minutes then you should be good to go. It was happening to me the other day too.
HadesGigas
Member
Ok, after playing a bit more, I think I need to start over and pick Rogue instead, and put all of my points into persuasion.
How is there no "bash lock" ability in this Bioware game? What an odd thing to decide to remove, especially considering you can kick people's doors in as you please.
Thanks, worked.
Prophet Steve
Member
I don't think you can get out of it.
Although you could just not click the tabs, why would you need the Community tab if you think it's a clusterfuck? You can access all the stuff in the My Profile tab at the top left.
The Friends stuff is quite annoying yes, since I like to see the recent stuff my friends have done. But now every thing takes up a lot of space.
Yeah the only thing I really like about the update is the game hubs. Kind of feels like profiles and groups are pushed away a bit(despite groups getting an upgrade). The big focus/easy access is on recent friend updates, aka blotter with like/dislike, and game hubs/workshop/greenlight.
spindoctor
Member
So having to create a Steam account and signing in to play your games is perfectly acceptable, but having to create a Ubi account is the end of the world? Okay.
Does anyone know how to access the screenshot manager with the new community? You know, the window that shows you a local copy of your screenshots that you might not have uploaded to the cloud yet? It used to be in the menu at the top of the client but it got removed and I can't seem to find any way to access it now.
Glass Rebel
Member
Well, he bought the game off Steam and not uPlay so he already has a Steam-account...
Rogue is a lot of fun, def my favorite class.
Delusibeta
Banned
Assuming you're not using a Mac: Right click the icon in the Notification Area (beside the clock) or the Task Bar (if running Windows 7), then click Screenshots.
Jeff Stephen
Member
I recently moved Steam over onto another HD and installed TF2. That's about it, no Gmod here.
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