STEAM announcements & updates 2013 - Year of the SteamBox

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I wouldn't dare call Infinite ugly, but I'm not sure how I feel about the art style as a whole. I felt that Bioshock 1's whole art deco/nautical/ruined civilization thing gelled together a lot better. Infinite kinda just jams together a several disparate elements and it doesn't work nearly as well. Maybe it's just me.

I felt somewhat weird about it too until I played it

you need to play it snuggers
 
I wouldn't dare call Infinite ugly, but I'm not sure how I feel about the art style as a whole. I felt that Bioshock 1's whole art deco/nautical/ruined civilization thing gelled together a lot better. Infinite kinda just jams together a several disparate elements and it doesn't work nearly as well. Maybe it's just me.

It demands a precise level of stonedness to show it's true visual brilliance.
 
my problems with infinite so far:
* the two hours I've played were extremely linear and didn't have enough skyhooking on shit
* no quicksave, fuck that
* it doesn't seem to be anything remotely close to sneaking, which feels weird because it'd be really cool to be able to sneak past some of these parts
* no subtitles on audiologs.
* it chugs like crazy loading stuff on my PC. it's weird because it runs at a perfect 60 FPS but every couple seconds it freezes and then lets me play again. it's very annoying and didn't change as I lowered the settings

also rofl at all the tomb raider dlc
 
God fucking damnit I'm trying to hold out guys. I haven't even played the first two yet and I want to do that first.

But the hype, it's making me weak.
 
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I always wanted to play as a fisherman in the Tomb Raider multiplayer.
 
God fucking damnit I'm trying to hold out guys. I haven't even played the first two yet and I want to do that first.

But the hype, it's making me weak.

If you haven't gotten around to playing B1 and 2 yet I'll say you aren't that interested in them. So either start 1 right now or just buy Infinite.
 
My friends list was totally on the Skyrim bandwagon but literally no one picked up Infinite. Dunno if we're missing out, the original Bioshock is totally architectural tourism with some shitty shooter gameplay thrown in for good measure. I'm excited to play Infinite, but certainly not day one/full price.

You don't seem to have a very diverse friends list then.
 
On a related note: I can't wait to see the bitching about the latest Humble android bundle.

Android only. Featuring a game from EA/Popcap and SNK/Playmore.
 
My friends list was totally on the Skyrim bandwagon but literally no one picked up Infinite. Dunno if we're missing out, the original Bioshock is totally architectural tourism with some shitty shooter gameplay thrown in for good measure. I'm excited to play Infinite, but certainly not day one/full price.

What a shame
 
What's up with The Cave? Hardly anyone talks about it, and it seems like it would be one of those high profile sorta-indie releases.

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Bioshock doing preeeety good.
Actually, that just makes Skyrim's 280,000 concurrent player count on 11/11/11 all the more impressive.
 
Wut? Embittered by an amazing game?

I didn't.

Its obviously subjective, but Skyrim is actually a pretty poor game when you break it down.

Shallow
Dumbed down or non-existant RPG mechanics
Horrible Combat
Still running on Gamebyro

It gets even worse when you compare it to similar, less popular games in the genre.

And that's what is very sad about the whole thing, Skyrim actually isn't a very good game and yet it is extremely popular. Other games will never see those kind of sales numbers, but they are far more deserving of success.

Sleeping Dogs is another great example. Square came out today during their quarterly report and said that Sleeping Dogs underperformed.

Just really sad that some games get noticed, and the ones that truly deserve to be noticed are sometimes ignored.

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Bioshock doing preeeety good.

Bioshock is doing very well though. 60,000 concurrent day one is very healthy.

Borderlands 2 launched with 120,000

http://games.opensteamworks.org/Chart/View/49520

Hitman Absolution with 26,000

http://games.opensteamworks.org/Chart/View/203140

Walking Dead: SI with 400

http://games.opensteamworks.org/Chart/View/220050
 
I can't believe people still buy it at full price in enough numbers to cause it to remain on the top sellers list. But I suppose it gets a bump now and then due to the expansion pack releases.

This confuses me too. You'd think at some point, those sales numbers constantly for over a year would mean everyone who wants it would have it, but apparently a couple of thousand people every month realise they want Skyrim.
 
This confuses me too. You'd think at some point, those sales numbers constantly for over a year would mean everyone who wants it would have it, but apparently a couple of thousand of people every month realise they want Skyrim.

Its most likely console players switching over and grabbing it, or new people to PC in general.
 
Mods go a long way to keeping people into ES games. I went back this summer and brought my total up to 90 hours. True dark nights, hypothermia, food, camping at fires built with harvested wood, and some tweaks to combat made it pretty fun for another 40 hours or so. I couldn't stomach the base game, and I don't really have the urge to go back to it even modded, but I did get a lot out of it thanks to some fans with a bit of talent and ingeneuity,

I don't think anyone is dissing the mods, just that the base game is basically boring as sin for anything more than 10 hours. I wanted to play and enjoy it, but once the novelty of the environment wore off it was gameover, man.
 
Mods go a long way to keeping people into ES games. I went back this summer and brought my total up to 90 hours. True dark nights, hypothermia, food, camping at fires built with harvested wood, and some tweaks to combat made it pretty fun for another 40 hours or so. I couldn't stomach the base game, and I don't really have the urge to go back to it even modded, but I did get a lot out of it thanks to some fans with a bit of talent and ingeneuity,

Does the average person actually use mods? Do we have any numbers on this? Workshop probably increased the numbers by a couple of thousand times, but I still imagine most people who play Skyrim just made the guy in the marketting material and think it's amazing.
 
I don't think anyone is dissing the mods, just that the base game is basically boring as sin for anything more than 10 hours. I wanted to play and enjoy it, but once the novelty of the environment wore off it was gameover, man.

Yep and since everyone else agrees with you about it this is indeed a mystery.
 
The love Sleeping Dogs gets around here is something I can't understand. It's an average open world game, better than GTA4 for sure, but so are Saints Row 3 and Just Cause 2, both much better games than Sleeping Dogs.
 
I don't think anyone is dissing the mods, just that the base game is basically boring as sin for anything more than 10 hours. I wanted to play and enjoy it, but once the novelty of the environment wore off it was gameover, man.

I really don't agree with you there. I played mostly vanilla Skyrim for 186 hours and pretty much everybody in my gaming-circle friends also love it. All on PC.

To put this into context, we came from 250+ hours of Oblivion Gameplay and we also loved it.

I've never played the earlier Elder Scrolls, so I don't really know how they are RPG-wise. I know that reading about "hypothermia" mod sounds like the most annoying thing in the world to add to a game, so I'll just say that you're all crazy and that's that.
 
I'm completely not shocked in the slightest by this. The episodes are each like 2 hours, they were spaced out in release and there is zero reason to boot up the game otherwise. Oh and it took a while to build up steam in terms of awareness.

Wrong game man.
 
I'm completely not shocked in the slightest by this. The episodes are each like 2 hours, they were spaced out in release and there is zero reason to boot up the game otherwise. Oh and it took a while to build up steam in terms of awareness.

The one he's talking about is the recently released, pretty damn terrible licensed game based off the show.

I've watched way more of the Bro Stream of it than I should have: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DHzWHxXBEfI
 
The love Sleeping Dogs gets around here is something I can't understand. It's an average open world game, better than GTA4 for sure, but so are Saints Row 3 and Just Cause 2, both much better games than Sleeping Dogs.
SR2 I could see, but SR3 ain't as good as Sleeping Dogs.

Just Cause 2 is trash wrapped around a pretty but lifeless open world. Seriously, its gameplay mechanics are weak, and the story & voice work are beyond awful.
 
Yeah, some dude put up 600+ and pushed the BTA to $11.

A follow-up to this: the $638 donation that spiked the BTA seems to have been withdrawn. My guess is that someone forgot to a decimal point when entering their total.
 
The love Sleeping Dogs gets around here is something I can't understand. It's an average open world game, better than GTA4 for sure, but so are Saints Row 3 and Just Cause 2, both much better games than Sleeping Dogs.

Sleeping Dogs' mission structure is so, so much better than SR3's. I can only do so many 'follow me in a heli', and escort missions before I ask what the fuck is up.
 
The love Sleeping Dogs gets around here is something I can't understand. It's an average open world game, better than GTA4 for sure, but so are Saints Row 3 and Just Cause 2, both much better games than Sleeping Dogs.

Excellent voice acting and side characters. Compelling story. Pretty solid melee focused combat. Great, non repetitive mission structures
dates don't count, they were terribad
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tl:dr - I disagree about for JC2 and SR3
 
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