Think FEZ, only with proper puzzles and none of the QR/fake language bullshit.
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STEAM Announcements & Updates 2014 IV - For me it was Tuesday
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Think FEZ, only with proper puzzles and none of the QR/fake language bullshit.
TuckingFypo
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Is it very long? Ep 1 was pretty short.
I'm actually kinda digging the Fall, jankiness aside.
I actually think the whole "you can buy whatever" thing works well in this type of game. So many games that give you "choices" tend to have very little incentive to get you out of your comfort zone. You play the saint version and then maybe a next playthrough you're an asshole just because it's the opposite. Very few games actually gives you real reasons to change your style. One of the few games that did, for me, was Risen. Early on at least, you're broke as hell, and EVERYTHING costs money, including just leveling up your skills. So I took seedier jobs, or robbed people, which is not the way I play most games that give you choices.
The Fall sort of has this too, though not as well designed because it originated from tacky microtransaction design decisions. But the stingy economy and wealth of choices has actually pushed me to play a bit differently, being a bit more aggressive than I am in these types of games (the story set up of being desperate fugitives helps too).
I wouldn't say, go rush out and buy it. The enemy NPCs are PS2 level, there's clearly some residual touch screen bullshit, though most of it can be avoided with hotkeys. Areas are small, but there's a pretty decent amount of them, including quite a few optional ones. It's a solid sale game, I'd say. Don't think it is quite on the level of some of the early reactions.
I actually think the whole "you can buy whatever" thing works well in this type of game. So many games that give you "choices" tend to have very little incentive to get you out of your comfort zone. You play the saint version and then maybe a next playthrough you're an asshole just because it's the opposite. Very few games actually gives you real reasons to change your style. One of the few games that did, for me, was Risen. Early on at least, you're broke as hell, and EVERYTHING costs money, including just leveling up your skills. So I took seedier jobs, or robbed people, which is not the way I play most games that give you choices.
The Fall sort of has this too, though not as well designed because it originated from tacky microtransaction design decisions. But the stingy economy and wealth of choices has actually pushed me to play a bit differently, being a bit more aggressive than I am in these types of games (the story set up of being desperate fugitives helps too).
I wouldn't say, go rush out and buy it. The enemy NPCs are PS2 level, there's clearly some residual touch screen bullshit, though most of it can be avoided with hotkeys. Areas are small, but there's a pretty decent amount of them, including quite a few optional ones. It's a solid sale game, I'd say. Don't think it is quite on the level of some of the early reactions.
Backlogger
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Is it bad because its a mobile port? I played maybe an hour of it on the iPad and I enjoyed it, but could never play more than 10 mins with the touch controls.
I felt they did a good job with the controls, but even the best touch controls suck on a shooter.
I plan on getting it, but will probably wait for a 75% off sale
RavenValor95
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I forget who mentioned it(sorry)
But I think someone said they were interested in buying Hitman Contracts on Steam?
Squeenix is having a sale on Humble Store right now and it's $1.74
https://www.humblebundle.com/store
But I think someone said they were interested in buying Hitman Contracts on Steam?
Squeenix is having a sale on Humble Store right now and it's $1.74
https://www.humblebundle.com/store
Marlow Briggs is 85% off ($2.24) for two weeks.
Get it. You won't regret it.
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ashecitism
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People waiting for Valve to make any statement regarding this whole VR misery....not sure they'll get any.
Also, Valve should address a more pressing matter.
Also, Valve should address a more pressing matter.
doniewhalberg
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Kind of depends on how you play. Some people call episode 1 short, I could see how someone could easily do it in 45 mins, it took me 3 hours yesterday though haha. This one..I'd say it'll take me 4-5, but I could see 1 and a half to 2 hours for quick players.
Maxwood
Oh rock of ages, do not crumble, love is breathing still. Oh lady moon shine down, a little people magic if you will.
Thanks mate! That demo is pretty fun. Purple pixel goat's are suprisingly cute.
I haven't played a lot of Fez, but I did like those obtuse hidden thingy's I didn't even know where there untill I read it on the web. Completionists nightmare, though.
I don't see why some feel that Valve should comment. SteamVR is vendor-agnostic and Valve and Oculus working closely together is due to nothing more than the fact the Rift was and still is the only VR device with a public release.
Marriage (followed by kids) is the one true hardcore game. It makes Dark Souls look like Secrets of the Magic Crystal.
I love to hear this.
With my experience with the likes of Rome 2 and Cities in Motion 2 having Steam Workshop support, I think I could argue that strategy games, since they are so primarily systems driven, are maybe the best genre for mod support. Just being able to change the ruleset (e.g. having 4 turns each year in Rome 2) makes a huge difference in the game's enjoyability.
After trading cards, workshop is probably my favorite Steam feature.
Secrets of the Magic Crystal has demonic steeds, though.
Does Dark Souls have those?
almostheathen
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Try the World War Hulk and Star Wars Clone Wars tables I think those two are the easiest to get a decent score on.
Early Access; $14.99.
Edit: The game was in Groupees' Build a Greenlight Bundle 5 so Steam keys should be forthcoming.
Me too. Thanks guys.
Anyone play this recently? Is it complete enough to be playable? Not sure if I should get it now or wait for them to finish it.
MMBosstones86
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jshackles
Gentlemen, we can rebuild it. We have the capability to make the world's first enhanced store. Steam will be that store. Better than it was before.
So about 15-20 times a day now, I'm getting "offers" from marketing companies that want me to "partner" with them so they can help monetize Enhanced Steam.
But don't worry - while Enhanced Steam desperately needs money for upgraded servers, I don't want to stoop to the point of the extension including spyware or adware or anything like that.
Someone here suggested I look into Patreon - I'm thinking of starting a campaign there to help fund Enhanced Steam, but I'd like to get some input from the community of users here.
For those that are unfamiliar, Patreon is a lot like Kickstarter, except that instead of making a one-time payment to help fund something, you commit to making a monthly donation to fund a project's continued existence.
But don't worry - while Enhanced Steam desperately needs money for upgraded servers, I don't want to stoop to the point of the extension including spyware or adware or anything like that.
Someone here suggested I look into Patreon - I'm thinking of starting a campaign there to help fund Enhanced Steam, but I'd like to get some input from the community of users here.
For those that are unfamiliar, Patreon is a lot like Kickstarter, except that instead of making a one-time payment to help fund something, you commit to making a monthly donation to fund a project's continued existence.
- Is Patreon's "Commit to X number of dollars per month" way of doing things something that anyone here would be interested in?
- I'm having trouble thinking of what I could offer as different reward tiers for supporting Enhanced Steam with different amounts. Enhanced Steam has always operated on the principle that all of it's features should be free for everyone, regardless of whether or not you would be able to support it financially. Knowing that, does anyone have any ideas of things I could offer Enhanced Steam supporters of different reward tiers?
- As several of you have made one-time donations to Enhanced Steam in the past (thank you again!!!), would you feel upset in any way by the change in how the project is funded?
Early Access; $14.99.
Edit: The game was in Groupees' Build a Greenlight Bundle 5 so Steam keys should be forthcoming.
Holy guacamole! That bundle price was a gift. Maybe I'm going to miss Greenlight a little after all.
If it helps the game's already been down to $12.49 during the last winter sale. You could likely wait and get it for much less before it's out of early access, even.
Nikkuthulu
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While it wasn't me who had mentioned, thanks for bringing this up. I had wanted this one since the collection didn't include it from my old Amazon purchase. That price was perfect.
Nope, I bought Bioshock 1 from there and activated without problem, (I live in Sweden)
It makes sense.
You're providing a huge service to people, saving them lots of time and grief.
Surely that's worth something each month, isn't it?
Mister Chippy
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Question, around how much a month do you need to keep functioning? On average what percentage of that do you take in in donations? Do you predict operating costs to go up in the near future?
jshackles
Gentlemen, we can rebuild it. We have the capability to make the world's first enhanced store. Steam will be that store. Better than it was before.
Yeah, it makes sense to me too, since people wouldn't really be paying for my time so much as paying for the servers that everyone uses - which have a monthly fee to operate.
Patreon is nice because it allows you to commit to as little as $1 or as much as you would like. Even if 0.01% of Enhanced Steam's average daily users donated $1 a month...
There would be incredible things I would be able to add to Enhanced Steam without having to worry about the load it would put on the servers.
Right now, and on average for the last few months, donations have covered about 40% of the current operating costs.
I anticipate the operating costs of Enhanced Steam to go up pretty considerably soon, as I've reached the peak of what is available on my current hosting platform and the next available pricing tier from my host is about twice as much as I currently pay.
During busy days now (ie. Tuesday ie. almost every day) the server has between 1-2 hours of down time due to excessive load.
OldAsUrSock
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I like runners. I hope this one will be good.
FiveElementNinja
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I think it's a great idea and hopefully will help keep your operating costs down. What if you offered extra profile options or flair for people who support you? Could be as simple as an extra badge for profile pages, extra backgrounds, or some sort of name formatting that indicates you're a supporter. It'd only be visible to people who use ES, but there could be interest there. I was going to suggest maybe having supporters on a faster server compared to free users, but that might get pricey having to maintain two servers.
BinaryPork2737
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Early Access; $14.99.
Edit: The game was in Groupees' Build a Greenlight Bundle 5 so Steam keys should be forthcoming.
Sounds kind of interesting.
This was my 1,000th thread subscription. Do I win anything
Sorry, couldn't resist
FiveElementNinja
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Sorry, couldn't resist
That gif gets me every time. XD
Mister Chippy
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I'd say Patreon sounds like a good idea. You might be able to use cosmetics as benefits for donators. Something like customizable backgrounds.
jshackles
Gentlemen, we can rebuild it. We have the capability to make the world's first enhanced store. Steam will be that store. Better than it was before.
Having multiple servers for different users would actually (in reality) probably slow things down. Their request would hit the "regular" server, which would be checked to see if you're on the "VIP list" and then if so you'd be directed to the "premium" server for processing.
Having profile flair as an Enhanced Steam supporter might work though. I would have to have a way for Patreon supporters to send me their Steam username to make it work, though.
Have they even said what they'll release their PC games on now GFWL is dead? Better not be the Windows 8 store, that blows even more than GFWL...
Also, only 2 hours left on my giveaway (Starbound, Civ V, SR3, BF3, DS3) - http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=105750878&postcount=77
Also, only 2 hours left on my giveaway (Starbound, Civ V, SR3, BF3, DS3) - http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=105750878&postcount=77
Syphon Filter
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Did something happen recently?
They seem to be fine with using Steamworks, but they do still have some games only available on the W8 store like Spartan Assault.
mcfishstick
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My fear is that Microsoft will stick these on the Windows 8 store like they have with Ilomilo. Microsoft's pc interest is haphazard and impossible to understand. Stuff like Age of Empires HD, Age of Mythology Extended Edition and Lococycle get released on steam, but Ilomilo and Hydro Thunder Hurricane get locked to Windows 8 store.
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