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Lafiel

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Played both killing floor & RO via guest passes. RO is way better then i expected, it seems playable on 200+ ms north american servers. (no active australian servers sadly), it's the first fps i've played, that makes every kill you make, feel like your first one.:lol
Will definitely buy it, when it goes on sale again. (which should hopefully be during the christmas / boxing day sales).
Killing floor is a lot more fun, then it should be, honestly. As the game itself has a amateurish feel to it. That's mostly due to the completely atrocious dialogue.:lol
Game seems to be active, and has some good support with updates though. Will buy it for sure. (when it goes on sale ofc).:D
 

epmode

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Relix said:
So, quick question... do I disable V-Sync in game and let D3R..wnjbreubf...overrider do its work?
Yeah, disable all vsync/triple buffering in the game settings, then enable it in the overrider itself.
 

Doytch

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Browsing through the G5 site, there's something oddly alluring about a company with games that have these "covers."
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Downloading the demo to Virtual City now....

update : story mode intro is one frame away from being the start of a porno. Unsure if intentional.
You weren't kidding...
 
Virtual City isn't a bad casual game but is lacking the meat of a TTD or a Trade Empires-though it is pretty faithful to some of those game's most basic tenets. The SimCity stuff is very light as well. That being said, I think I could have kept playing after the demo timer was up a bit longer.

It's a simple, decent, easy-playing transport game with some population elements tied into the production and transportation chain. My gaming instincts make me adverse to anything simple, but someone looking for lightweight casual fare could probably do way worse than this.
 
Joseph Merrick said:
wait, is global agenda steam only? someone confirm/deny

There's a preorder up on their site for a physical version. No mention in searching of being able to get the game outside of steam.

Cool looking game, might check it out.
 

datamage

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brain_stew said:
As with all DirectX games just download Rivatuner and use the included D3DOverrider to force tripple buffering and Vsync. You'll get rid of the tearing but not suffer the nasty performance penalty associated with standard double buffer vsync. Tearing can be remedied in every PC game.




You really should just go with D3DOverrider then, it'll give you a free performance boost as much as 50% in all your Direct3D games and actually reduce input lag over the standard Vsync that you force on in your GPU drivers. In your case it'll practically be the same as getting a free GPU upgrade (similar to the leap from a 4850 to a 4870 on average) and reduce stutter, and that's not hyperbole either. See my old thread on the topic here:

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=366413

I'll give it a go, I once tried it a while back, and for some reason, never bothered to re-install it. Thanks for the reminder. :)




Its capped at 30fps fwiw.

Well... damn. I suppose I'll wait for a decent sale on it then. I suppose 1080p/30fps will provide a better experience than the console version anyhow. Still disappointing however.
 

Proc

Member
Give me a reason why my drunk ass shouldn't buy this last remenant rpg for $10

edit: steam deals seriously laugh in the face of xbla weekly deals. its pretty unfair to compare the two actually. hahaha. $10 for a steam version of a game that costs millions to make. sure why not.
 

Oreoleo

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$5 for Tropico 1 & 2 I am all over that :D

Anyone play this Samarost2? At $2.50 it might be worth picking up for the art alone.
 
Proc said:
Give me a reason why my drunk ass shouldn't buy this last remenant rpg for $10

edit: steam deals seriously laugh in the face of xbla weekly deals. its pretty unfair to compare the two actually. hahaha. $10 for a steam version of a game that costs millions to make. sure why not.

XBLA deals aren't necessarily terrible if you got the spacebucks at a discount via one of the redeemable point cards. That being said, the average price of a PC game has dropped dramatically due to the fact that a) there is competition between services and b) publishers are realizing that weekend/one-day deals can sell a game, even at reduced price, to someone who wouldn't have otherwise bought it.
 

Brashnir

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Fragamemnon said:
b) publishers are realizing that weekend/one-day deals can sell a game, even at reduced price, to someone who wouldn't have otherwise bought it.

And this is especially good in the online space, since there's no disc/box/manual that needs to be manufactured. It literally costs the publishers nothing and can bring in some extra revenue.

It can hurt if there are too many deals, since people will stop buying anything that's not on sale, but Steam seems to have found a balance that's working for themselves and publishers.
 

Oreoleo

Member
So I've got Tropico and Samarost in my shopping cart, and right to the right it has "Recommendations for you!" My recommendations are Osmos, Monkey Island, and Mirror's Edge. The last 3 games I've bought on Steam. WTF dudes.
 
Orellio said:
$5 for Tropico 1 & 2 I am all over that :D

Anyone play this Samarost2? At $2.50 it might be worth picking up for the art alone.

It's by the same devs as Machinarium and is the sequel to the game that put them on the map, so to speak.

So yea, BUY BUY BUY BUY.
 
Brashnir said:
It can hurt if there are too many deals, since people will stop buying anything that's not on sale, but Steam seems to have found a balance that's working for themselves and publishers.

Thing is that most game sales are frontloaded anyway, bought by the people that buy them as soon as or right after they come out. You rarely see a deal on a game that came out one or two months ago, instead you see it for games that have been out three or more months, when full price sales of a title are probably not going to be all that much greater.
 

graywolf323

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Orellio said:
So I've got Tropico and Samarost in my shopping cart, and right to the right it has "Recommendations for you!" My recommendations are Osmos, Monkey Island, and Mirror's Edge. The last 3 games I've bought on Steam. WTF dudes.

I don't think the recommendations have ever been that useful
 

Oreoleo

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Peronthious said:
It's by the same devs as Machinarium and is the sequel to the game that put them on the map, so to speak.

So yea, BUY BUY BUY BUY.

I see your Machinarium avatar, but I've never played it or Samarost 1 so I'm sort of at a loss. Your enthusiasm, however, is enough to put me over the edge and click that purchase button.
 

Brashnir

Member
Fragamemnon said:
Thing is that most game sales are frontloaded anyway, bought by the people that buy them as soon as or right after they come out. You rarely see a deal on a game that came out one or two months ago, instead you see it for games that have been out three or more months, when full price sales of a title are probably not going to be all that much greater.

Tropico 3 is on sale now. :D

But yeah, I agree with your general point, and agree that they're obviously doing a pretty good job with it, given the success of the service.
 

Bebpo

Banned
I agree with the sentiment about sales killing full price.

Outside of Valve products, I probably won't ever buy a $30+ PC game day1 again unless it has heavy pre-order discounts.

Like with Borderlands, I wanted the game, but would not pay $50, but at $25 after a 4-pack during the BF sale I bit. It hurts indie full price stuff too. Unless I NEED a game day 1 like Machinarium, I won't pay $20+ for an indie title. I'll wait until it's on sale for $10. Like with The Void, I want it, but I'm not gonna pay $20 and will get when it's on sale.
 

TheExodu5

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Just tried D3DOverider with CSS, out of curiosity. Yeah, input lag is still way too high for competitive play. Vsync with no triple buffering is a tad better (maybe it doesn't even use double buffering?). For competitive play, Vsync is the only way, sadly.
 
TheExodu5 said:
Just tried D3DOverider with CSS, out of curiosity. Yeah, input lag is still way too high for competitive play. Vsync with no triple buffering is a tad better (maybe it doesn't even use double buffering?). For competitive play, Vsync is the only way, sadly.
For competitive play, Vsync off is the only way to play for me. The potential for massive framerate drops just aren't worth it to me. Besides, I usually got too caught up with what's going on in the game to the point where I don't give a shit about screen tearing anymore.
 

mr_nothin

Banned
CrookedRain said:
For competitive play, Vsync off is the only way to play for me. The potential for massive framerate drops just aren't worth it to me. Besides, I usually got too caught up with what's going on in the game to the point where I don't give a shit about screen tearing anymore.
Co-signing this one.
 

Dynoro

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Hmm Broken Sword 2/3 and Last Remant on sale....damn you Steam...dammmmmmmn you! Looks like I'm buying more before Christmas
 
Unknown Soldier said:
The Last Remnant is now $10. Is this game a good buy at that price?

There is a demo isn't there? There was before at least. Personally I would not download even if it was for free. I would suggest trying it before laying down the money. Seems to be a love or hate game.
 

Easy_D

never left the stone age
Played the demo of The Last Remnant and was sold, for 9.99 euros it seems good enough, I liked the battles as well :D.
 

Zzoram

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I tried the demo for TLR and wasn't impressed by the performance on my 4870 and wasn't too fond of the combat system either. Now I hear that's an ATI-specific bug that they'll never patch. It's hard for me to justify buying it now.
 

Easy_D

never left the stone age
Zzoram said:
I tried the demo for TLR and wasn't impressed by the performance on my 4870 and wasn't too fond of the combat system either. Now I hear that's an ATI-specific bug that they'll never patch. It's hard for me to justify buying it now.
I guess I better finish it before I get my hands on a 5870 then. But that's guaranteed considering how slow ATI is getting them out :lol
 

Zzoram

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Easy_D said:
I guess I better finish it before I get my hands on a 5870 then. But that's guaranteed considering how slow ATI is getting them out :lol

It's just a framerate problem. For some reason, the game can't use the full power of ATI cards properly. I could still play it at 1680x1050, I just had to turn things down to medium to not get bad framerate drops.
 

Rufus

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Zaraki_Kenpachi said:
Are any of the kalypso games worthwhile that are on sale?
Broken Sword 2+3: great Adventure games
Commandos (all except 3, never played that one): wonderful squad based, tactical action games
Tropico 3: Dictator Sim, doesn't that sound wonderful already? Heard only good things about this one. T3 is supposed to be more of a remake of the first game, though, so if you want to go cheap, get Tropico Reloaded instead.
 

Kabouter

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Zaraki_Kenpachi said:
Are any of the kalypso games worthwhile that are on sale?
Tropico 3 is fun, but gameplaywise largely a remake of the first game, which still holds up. So Tropico Reloaded as Rufus mentioned is an option if you want to go cheap.
Patrician III is probably the best game in its genre ever made, and it holds up really well, it's easily worth buying the pack with the two other (meh) games for.
Commandos, Beyond the Call of Duty and Commandos 2 are excellent.
 

Stallion Free

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CrookedRain said:
For competitive play, Vsync off is the only way to play for me. The potential for massive framerate drops just aren't worth it to me. Besides, I usually got too caught up with what's going on in the game to the point where I don't give a shit about screen tearing anymore.

I completely agree with this. For any online competitive game I use no triple-buffering and no v-sync. You can feel the lag on both on twitchier games like TF2 and Left 4 Dead.
 

mattiewheels

And then the LORD David Bowie saith to his Son, Jonny Depp: 'Go, and spread my image amongst the cosmos. For every living thing is in anguish and only the LIGHT shall give them reprieve.'
There wasn't a pc version of the broken sword remake, was there?
 
mattiewheels said:
There wasn't a pc version of the broken sword remake, was there?

It wasn't a remake, just an update with some new parts. But no there wasn't a PC release but it's apparently coming, both a Steam and disc release.
 

Mrbob

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Gonna pick up Tropico Reloaded, love the first game. Might get The Last Remnant as well. I won't be playing it for awhile but for 10 bucks it can add to my steam pokemon addiction.


Bebpo said:
I agree with the sentiment about sales killing full price.

Outside of Valve products, I probably won't ever buy a $30+ PC game day1 again unless it has heavy pre-order discounts.

Like with Borderlands, I wanted the game, but would not pay $50, but at $25 after a 4-pack during the BF sale I bit. It hurts indie full price stuff too. Unless I NEED a game day 1 like Machinarium, I won't pay $20+ for an indie title. I'll wait until it's on sale for $10. Like with The Void, I want it, but I'm not gonna pay $20 and will get when it's on sale.

Agreed, but at the same time we don't know how much money these sales net. If they are significant then publishers might be netting more money now. Get the sales from the early adopters the first month, and then grab the casual buyers after with sales.
 

drizzle

Axel Hertz
Bebpo said:
I agree with the sentiment about sales killing full price.

Outside of Valve products, I probably won't ever buy a $30+ PC game day1 again unless it has heavy pre-order discounts.

Like with Borderlands, I wanted the game, but would not pay $50, but at $25 after a 4-pack during the BF sale I bit. It hurts indie full price stuff too. Unless I NEED a game day 1 like Machinarium, I won't pay $20+ for an indie title. I'll wait until it's on sale for $10. Like with The Void, I want it, but I'm not gonna pay $20 and will get when it's on sale.

Mrbob said:
Agreed, but at the same time we don't know how much money these sales net. If they are significant then publishers might be netting more money now. Get the sales from the early adopters the first month, and then grab the casual buyers after with sales.
I think it works the other way around. People who are going to buy the game, are going to buy it full price. Like i did with borderlands, orange box, left4dead and left4dead 2. People who aren't going to buy it full price will buy it eventually when the price comes down. And they would never buy it if the price never came down.

I could've waited a year and gotten left4dead for 7 bucks. I could've waited 2 years and bought Team Fortress 2 for 2 bucks. I could've waited a year and bought a better television than the set i bought one year ago, for less.

THe longer you wait, cheaper/better stuff gets. The only downside is that you have to wait for it and can't enjoy the product in that meantime while you're waiting for it.

That's a choice you have to make. And let me tell you a little secret: If you want something, you will buy it at full price. If you're not prepared to buy it full price, you probably don't want it enough.
 

Mrbob

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Yes?

I was agreeing with your post. :lol

I'm wondering what these sales net these companies. I know Valve said with the first big sale of L4D it made them more money than launch day. But this could have been a specialized case.
 

Yasser

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how do i get cutscenes to work in broken sword 2? i downloaded the cutscenes seperately from scummvm.org like the game says to in the beginning but don't know what to do with files now
 

mattiewheels

And then the LORD David Bowie saith to his Son, Jonny Depp: 'Go, and spread my image amongst the cosmos. For every living thing is in anguish and only the LIGHT shall give them reprieve.'
when you buy samarost 2, does it play in its own window that you can fullscreen? or is it just always in the browser? i'd really like to have it fullscreen...
 
I have to think the Steam sales are a net positive for publishers. In a brick & mortar retailer, most of those games would be straight-up gone from the shelves after the first month or two and completely forgotten. With the sale, they can at least make $10 off a bunch of people who would never have consciously tracked down the game after it disappeared from the retail spotlight.

For me personally, the ratio of "games I bought in a sale that I likely wouldn't have bought at all" to "games I would have bought full-price but didn't because I'm waiting for a sale" is something like 10:1. And with the games I skip at full-price, most of them I pick up later on sale anyway, so it's not a total loss for the seller.
 

drizzle

Axel Hertz
Mrbob said:
Yes?

I was agreeing with your post. :lol

I'm wondering what these sales net these companies. I know Valve said with the first big sale of L4D it made them more money than launch day. But this could have been a specialized case.
My message was directed more to Bebpo than to you. I'm sorry if i seemed the other way.
 
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