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BobsRevenge
I do not avoid women, GAF, but I do deny them my essence.
Achievements need to stay the hell out of online games. What happened to competition for competition's sake? This shit is perverse imo.D3VI0US said:
And yet there are people like me, who like achievements in ALL games, online and off. I like just getting the achievements through normal play. It's a neat extra.BobsRevenge said:
Stop being such a sourpuss and stop letting the achievement whores ruin it for you.
Also:
What?D3VI0US said:
Or are you talking about DoD:S?
BobJustBob
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Also, Children of the Nile for $20.
BobsRevenge
I do not avoid women, GAF, but I do deny them my essence.
Multiplayer games are there so you play with other people, not so that you meet some goals set by the developers for you to accomplish within that.TheOneGuy said:
The fact that multiplayer games are straying so much from fair competition for the sake of more single player elements I find scary. That CoD4 is so popular is a terrible thing for my perspective.
If you're going to have accomplishments leading to better weapons have it last for only a match like CS, MGO, or Crysis. Carrying over things so that the playing field isn't even feels unintuitive as far as sportly competition goes.
Then again I never played RPGs online or anything and I hate MMOs.
strikeselect
You like me, you really really like me!
saelz8 said:Also, new low price until the 10th.
It's not as good as 1.3, but it's a good game in its own right. It's definately worth $4.99.
Just caved in and bought it for $4.99
Haven't played any DoD in years.
Darko
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saelz8 said:Also, new low price until the 10th.
It's not as good as 1.3, but it's a good game in its own right. It's definately worth $4.99.
Just bought this
, been plying the original since it came out, redesigns of the levels take a little getting used to (dod_kalt) but its great so far... awesome deal!Laurentius
Member
Yeah, just bought DoD:S as well. Don't know if/when I'll actually get around to playing it, but I figured $5.00 is too good of a deal to pass up.
BobsRevenge
I do not avoid women, GAF, but I do deny them my essence.
Multiplayer is competative gaming with other people (at least the kind I'm talking about) and achievements don't aim towards that goal. It's some sort of personal accomplishment disembodied from the actual goal of multiplayer gaming: to kick other peoples' asses. It perverts the concept imo. I don't want someone on my team going around trying to get headshots or some shit when the point is to capture flags. If your game is good enough you shouldn't need artificial benchmarks to bring people in or keep people playing. Unlockables are even worse because not only is that person focusing on shit that isn't winning, but they get new weapons you don't for it as well!TheOneGuy said:
Like, what the hell? Just because I don't play as much as some dude who has no job and lives in their parents' basement I get stuck with less options? Stat tracking is cool and everything. Leveling people up or whatever I'm fine with as long as it has no effect on actual gameplay. I just don't want people getting advantages because they have more time than me, pre-ordered the game, or paid $10 more for the game. Total bullshit. Yeah, that's right Bad Company, you just got called out.
I'm sorry?BobsRevenge said:
Before anyone had ever heard about the idea of "achievements", people were always striving to be The Best in multiplayer gaming. Achievements are just a fun little extra. Don't like 'em? Don't pay attention to 'em.
"Perverted." Seriously? That's a little fucking extreme.
As for the unlockables, I don't disagree. But (at least in TF2), the unlockables are pretty situational, so it ends up not being a big deal.
You're making a mountain out of a molehill, though.
Oh, wait...
And now it's impossible to see you as anything but a crybaby.
Diablohead
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DoD:S is totaly worth $5, I got it free with the hl2 silver bundle and had great fun with it.
I've been playing TF2 for a good week now and i'm shocked at some of the achievements you have to do online, some of them are just asking for helo because I cannot see it happerning in regular gameplay.
Things like weenie roast are good because it does happen, but healing a heavy who has to score something like 30 kills without dieing can kiss my arse.
I've been playing TF2 for a good week now and i'm shocked at some of the achievements you have to do online, some of them are just asking for helo because I cannot see it happerning in regular gameplay.
Things like weenie roast are good because it does happen, but healing a heavy who has to score something like 30 kills without dieing can kiss my arse.
BobsRevenge
I do not avoid women, GAF, but I do deny them my essence.
:lol :lol :lolTheOneGuy said:
What can I say? I'm a sucker for fairness and sportly competativeness. Seeing people playing competative multiplayer games for any other reason just gets on my nerves and when companies actually support it when they don't even have to I put on my cry-face.
Striving to be the best is the point. Like, trying to get 10 kills in a row without dying by sitting in a corner camping the whole damn time isn't cool. Just play the damn game and get on with your life. I think it perverts the spirit of multiplayer gaming, because you're not playing for the same reasons. It cheapens it imo.
edit: I don't pay attention to them btw. I just hate it when other people do.
I'm sorry, but this is just driving me nuts.
It's competitive. D: Not competative!
Yes, achievement whores ruin that, but those people were ruining games long before achievements existed. Assholes is assholes, and idiots is idiots, no matter what they're trying to do.
It's competitive. D: Not competative!
What are achievements if not another way to say "HEY GUYS LOOK I GOT THIS AWESOME ACHIEVEMENT! I'M BETTER THAN YOU!" (Note: people who do this are lulz-worthy and you should of course make fun of them! Achievements are a fun addition. Take them as anything more than that and you ruin things. But... see below.)BobsRevenge said:
Yes, achievement whores ruin that, but those people were ruining games long before achievements existed. Assholes is assholes, and idiots is idiots, no matter what they're trying to do.
Fragamemnon
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Because this theead needs a break from TheOneGuy's posts insulting people, here's an update on the new games that are on Steam today:
Sacred Gold (9.99 USD)
http://www.steampowered.com/index.php?area=game&AppId=12320
Elf Bowling: Hawaiian Vacation (9.99 USD)
http://www.steampowered.com/index.php?area=game&AppId=15990
Sacred Gold is a good game, and that's a good price for it.
Elf Bowling isn't bad if you have enough booze in you, but avoid otherwise. There are better causal game choices on Steam, such as Chuzzle.
Sacred Gold (9.99 USD)
http://www.steampowered.com/index.php?area=game&AppId=12320
Elf Bowling: Hawaiian Vacation (9.99 USD)
http://www.steampowered.com/index.php?area=game&AppId=15990
Sacred Gold is a good game, and that's a good price for it.
Elf Bowling isn't bad if you have enough booze in you, but avoid otherwise. There are better causal game choices on Steam, such as Chuzzle.
BobsRevenge
I do not avoid women, GAF, but I do deny them my essence.
Thanks. I've probably been spelling it wrong my entire life. :lolTheOneGuy said:
*recodes spelling in brain*
derder said:
Clear Sky's steam page says Aug 29th http://steampowered.com/v/index.php?area=app&AppId=9390&cc=US
Laurentius
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derder said:
Well, it's already $20, isn't? Pretty good deal, I think. Or are you wondering if it'll be one of the weekend deals between now and then? I'd hazard a no, but hey.
Phife Dawg
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Uhm, if it was that simple. It might work for some multiplayer games but for objective based multiplayer games achievement whores can ruin the game for the others as well because they don't focus on the map's goals but on their own specific goals.TheOneGuy said:
In all honesty I don't know what achievements are for. They certainly don't gauge your qualities as a gamer and can mostly be achieved by just playing for a very long time. Plus I don't think the majority even care about achievements from other people.TheOneGuy said:
They can keep the achievements in single player portions for all I care but I'm definetly in the "keep them out of multiplayer games" camp - going by recent trends I don't see that happening though.
Look, I know where both you and Bob are coming from, I just... don't think it's a big deal. Like I said, I think they're a fun little extra. They're fun to get through NORMAL play. I have never, ever farmed for achievements. (Well, I've inadvertently farmed a few, in an attempt to speed up others' farming to get the game going.) In fact, I've been known to complain when other people DO, because I just want to play the damn game. But said farming usually only lasts for a couple days, and even then, not ALL DAY LONG. So I just avoid it. And then when people start playing for real again, I start playing again, and through NORMAL play, I unlock various achievements, and I'm like "hey! that's cool!"Phife Dawg said:
A couple weeks ago, I got the medic achievement to hit five times with the bonesaw without missing or dying. It was just me against a pyro, soldier, and demoman. The other guy on my team was already dead. (It was a small game, only five people.) I jumped down into the middle of them, bonesawed the demo and soldier twice each, and they died! I ran away from the pyro to grab a health pack then jumped right back at him, hit him once, got the achievement, and died. I wasn't trying to get the achievement, I just did. But it was pretty awesome when I did. And I wasn't ruining other people's enjoyment of the game, so... I dunno. (I also unlocked the ubersaw with the achievement, which quadrupled the awesome.)
I don't think it's a big deal. I wouldn't particularly care if they were removed, as I still have fun with the games I play, but I see no reason to remove them just because a bunch of achievement whores spend a couple days trying to get them.
However, since certain people obviously don't like it when I post about these sort of things, I'm going to stop after this one.
mikekennyb
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epmode said:
Ah, interesting. Thanks for the info
chicken_ramen
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So, Sacred... $10 is very cheap.
It's a bog standard Diablo clone?
It's a bog standard Diablo clone?
Phife Dawg
Member
Well I'm very picky with my server choice but even then I always end up with a couple of achievement oriented players in ET:QW, that rather play a class they obviously aim for achievements at (for instance playing agressor and only using the lightning gun) than playing the class that helps the team at fullfilling the objective.TheOneGuy said:
And the achievements have been in the game right from the start. It's more than just an annoyance. I don't care if people want achievements in their games for purposes I can not fathom - give it to them for all I care. But as I said, keep them out of the multiplayer - alas this is mainstream now and it does look like it'll be the standard even for PC gaming sadly.
This may not hold true for TF if you can get the achievements very fast and afterwards everyone plays normally again, but since TF is boring it's not of big interest to me. It begs the question though, if what you said is true then why put the achievements in there in the first place, if they're easy as cake and only take a tiny bit of time to fullfill?
Oldschoolgamer
The physical form of blasphemy
Phife Dawg said:
Not all of them are easy as cake to get. Some of them require a bit of skill to get. And for the most part, as long as you don't completely suck at the game, then you will get the majority of them. Stuff like x number of enemies killed comes from playing a lot. Destroying a sentry with it's own rockets using the air compression blast is a bit tricky to pull off. As is stuff like hitting an opponent with the Dan Haydouken taunt. They are there for both crowds. The stuff with the medics is a bit wtf though. >.>
Honestly, it might suck at the beginning when everyone is trying to get the new toys, but it dies down rather fast. If it bothers you that much then you have the option of making your own server and setting up class limitations. Hell, you can play like you normally play when the achievement whorism starts. Just see how the classes align and go to town. It really isn't a big deal.
Bought Crazy Machines 2, it's pretty good, if you loved TIM and Armadillo run, this one is to pick up asap.
I also love the idea of user made levels and solution, just like armadillo.
btw, I finally managed to score 1st
http://i217.photobucket.com/albums/cc70/Bliddo/Clipboard01-12.jpg
I also love the idea of user made levels and solution, just like armadillo.
btw, I finally managed to score 1st
http://i217.photobucket.com/albums/cc70/Bliddo/Clipboard01-12.jpg
Zaraki_Kenpachi
Member
Hmm, if sacred gold is good like you say I think I'll pick it up then.
morningbus
Serious Sam is a wicked gahbidge series for chowdaheads.
New game added to Steam: The Wonderful End of the World.
The game is a Katamari Damacy clone, make of that what you will. The demo is actually pretty good, especially the second level, but I'll probably wait until it gets a bit cheaper before getting the full version.
The game is a Katamari Damacy clone, make of that what you will. The demo is actually pretty good, especially the second level, but I'll probably wait until it gets a bit cheaper before getting the full version.
Illuminati
Member
I finally got the Unreal Pack on Steam and holy crap I still cannot believe there are 1000+ servers still running the original Unreal Tournament.
morningbus
Serious Sam is a wicked gahbidge series for chowdaheads.
Volcynika said:
Just bought it and it showed up as $9.99.
You know, other digital download services should do this weekend sale stuff. So far I've bought three games (SiN, Penny Arcade Adventures, and now Puzzle Quest) that I wouldn't have gotten otherwise.
The flip side to that is that unless I really want a game at launch, I'm going to wait and see if it ever goes on sale.
morningbus
Serious Sam is a wicked gahbidge series for chowdaheads.
Doytch said:
Wine AppDB says yes: http://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=version&iId=10277
Shard said:
I should have added "more frequently" on to that. It is also probably expecting too much to think Nintendo would ever allow drops in WiiWare pricing.
Laurentius
Member
I love these weekend deals. I just bought Puzzle Quest. It's a game I've been wanting to play for awhile, and this gave me the perfect excuse! So far I've bought Prey, Day of Defeat: Source, Sam & Max Season 1, and Puzzle Quest off of the weekend deals.
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