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STEAM | August 2015 - Three versions of Windows since the last Half-Life
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duno about docs, but it was delayed many times, changed leads like three times i think, sega was constantly changing directions for the game, and there's a lot of cut content that i won't spoil for you that would be awesome to see fully realized in the game
like, that was why i was thinking kickstarter, sega will never use the license and just restoring cut content and improving gameplay a bit should be pretty affordable for a kickstarter budget
dunno how costly it would be to port it to ue4 but that would be cool too
biggest issue i can think is sega being dicks and console releases, but who knows
LurkerPrime
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You don't remember Kreia. Perhaps you played the first half an hour of KotOR2, but not much beyond that.
Seriously, you'd know if you really played KotOR2.
I agree. KotOR 2 is such a memorable game. KotOR 1 has the twist and it's a well done Star Wars game, while KotOR 2 tries something different and actually challenges the notion of the force.
I love it.
It's pretty stable now. You can still encounter bugs of course, but that is true for the vanilla version as well. I'd play with the restored content and make many different save files, just to be sure.
I'm playing through it now and I've only encountered one major bug on Dxun/Onderon. I just restarted a previous save.
Play it é_é
Se7enSword
Banned
Thanks, got +5.
Wok
Member
I love the screenshot you posted in Steam Activity with no context.
"not gonna provide any context for this"
Need to play this game now that I am intrigued.
Chance Hale
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Finished the playthrough I had going of Kotor 2 after the latest update and it really is a shame that they weren't able to finish the game. Even with the restored content mode the entire end game is almost hallucinatory in how poorly it flows together.
Hero Prinny
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nah boy, i got MGS5 coming on ps4, took advantage of that walmart pricing error around the beginning of the year and price matched it at best buy(along with kingdom hearts 3 and Uncharted 4). I'll most likely get a Nividia code for pc too depending on the prices.
FiveElementNinja
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Just watched a video about this Mini Virtual Pinball table and now I'm really tempted to get one. It uses a low-latency monitor for the screen and runs on Windows. It comes with Pinball FX2, Pinball Arcade, Ikaruga, Procyon, and MAME and can use your existing Steam account. Also comes with $150 Steam credit. Unfortunately it costs $2,500.
Dongs Macabre
aka Daedalos42
Just a reminder since I will be out for a couple of hours. Also, I noticed that the countdown was set to 7pm Pacific instead of 6pm like I intended, which I have corrected.
So since last night's impromptu Quiplash night was fun, I'll be hosting another one tonight.
You don't need to own the game to play!
All you need to do to join is go to jackbox.tv on your mobile device or web browser and type in the room code that will be on screen. Even if you don't get into the game as a player, you can still vote on your favourite quips as an audience member.
Rules:
1. Do unto others as you would have them do unto you.
The stream will be here. There's a slight delay (around 5 seconds I think), so keep an eye on your browser/mobile device.
Here's how KOTOR II's seemingly rushed development went. Obsidian were given a deadline for Xmas 04, did great work which LucasArts loved and wanted to expand on so pushed forward the release date to mid '05 and expand it, then something loopy happened as LA, they wanted it out asap (ie the original release date), Obsidian didn't get their contract updated and then had to rush it out the door.
There's a great article on Kotaku by Schreier that he wrote around the time of the Pillars kickstarter that explores Obsidian's history. There's also a good piece on RPS where I think Grayson interviewed Avellone and he detailed some of the stuff he wanted to include in KOTOR II if they had the time.
Edit: Here you go because I know a lot of you are lazy.
http://kotaku.com/5968952/the-knigh...e-some-of-the-coolest-role-playing-games-ever
http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2013/04/04/obsidians-avellone-on-torment-kotor-2-alpha-protocol/
There's a great article on Kotaku by Schreier that he wrote around the time of the Pillars kickstarter that explores Obsidian's history. There's also a good piece on RPS where I think Grayson interviewed Avellone and he detailed some of the stuff he wanted to include in KOTOR II if they had the time.
Edit: Here you go because I know a lot of you are lazy.
http://kotaku.com/5968952/the-knigh...e-some-of-the-coolest-role-playing-games-ever
http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2013/04/04/obsidians-avellone-on-torment-kotor-2-alpha-protocol/
billmcdougal
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I think Geralt had amnesia just so they could focus on original stories. If Geralt could remember everything from the books, he'd just be interested/involved in stuff that would take them a while to explain and / or would have to focus the game around it.
MMBosstones86
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I have picked up reading Dragonball / Dragonball Z. That should keep me busy for a while.
I like this idea. Thanks.
Yeah. It worked for about a week and then i think everyone checked out.
Dude. Stahp
PandaPedinte
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Just watched a video about this Mini Virtual Pinball table and now I'm really tempted to get one. It uses a low-latency monitor for the screen and runs on Windows. It comes with Pinball FX2, Pinball Arcade, Ikaruga, Procyon, and MAME and can use your existing Steam account. Also comes with $150 Steam credit. Unfortunately it costs $2,500.
I wish I had the money to import one of those.
Se7enSword
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You have the option to revert to your former OS in a month. So I'll say give it a shot, and if you dislike it then go back.
Personally, i have nothing but praise for it right now. It hasn't caused any issues for me as yet and neither has it disrupted my usual activities. Just make sure to disable the bandwidth allocation thing and the ad tracking.
just do it
It's not like your computer will blow up or anything.
(dont blame me if it does)
And Mass Effect 3 done.
90 hours spread through all three games in the series in the last three weeks.
I sure got my money's worth here/
Just wish ME3 was on Steam. It's ridiculous that EA doesn't want to maximize their profit for the game - I'm sure a lot of folks would gladly double dip (or purchase the PC version for the first time).
Oh well, EA gonna EA.
What was the deal folks with the ending? I found it completely acceptable and logical. Might help that I had both the Extended Ending and Leviathan DLCs installed.
90 hours spread through all three games in the series in the last three weeks.
I sure got my money's worth here/
Just wish ME3 was on Steam. It's ridiculous that EA doesn't want to maximize their profit for the game - I'm sure a lot of folks would gladly double dip (or purchase the PC version for the first time).
Oh well, EA gonna EA.
What was the deal folks with the ending? I found it completely acceptable and logical. Might help that I had both the Extended Ending and Leviathan DLCs installed.
Well, when you're left with questions such as 'did I just genocide the entire galaxy?', there's a few issues.
Actually, I'll expand on this because I still feel rage over how they entirely fucked up the ending and the entire series.
They completely change the theme of the entire game from 'We must stop the Reapers' to 'We must resolve the fundamental tension between synthetic and organic life' which, uh, I kinda managed to show how to do by getting the Quarians and the Geth to co-exist, but whatever. Lets just change the central conflict of the game, and give people exactly 14 lines of dialogue to explore this change!
They abandon the idea of giving details about your choices, making them impossible to reasonably make. You don't know if, for example, the destroy ending will wipe out the Quarians. Or if you genocided the galaxy by destroying all the mass relays. Or just what the hell the synthesis ending means. Or if by destroying the mass relays, you didn't just condemn several civilisation's fleets to starve to death in Earth orbit.
And for good measure, lets just fuck with the rest of the squad too, by showing them running away from the fight to decide it all and crash on some far off planet, where again, at least some of the survivors will starve to death. It's sure good to know that at the finale of it all, Joker's a goddamn coward who flees from the final battle to decide the fate of galactic civilisation.
They abandon the idea of giving details about your choices, making them impossible to reasonably make. You don't know if, for example, the destroy ending will wipe out the Quarians. Or if you genocided the galaxy by destroying all the mass relays. Or just what the hell the synthesis ending means. Or if by destroying the mass relays, you didn't just condemn several civilisation's fleets to starve to death in Earth orbit.
And for good measure, lets just fuck with the rest of the squad too, by showing them running away from the fight to decide it all and crash on some far off planet, where again, at least some of the survivors will starve to death. It's sure good to know that at the finale of it all, Joker's a goddamn coward who flees from the final battle to decide the fate of galactic civilisation.
Yes, the Extended Ending clarified some issues. But that original ending is indefensibly terrible. Series destroying terrible.
There's also the issue that your choices in the last games meant jack shit, aside from which characters are alive of course.
Dunno, maybe that was EE addition, but there was a few minutes long ending movie that explained everything that had happened.
It's not like they mattered when going from ME1 to ME2, aside from which characters were alive.
derExperte
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That sure helped but the main issue is that you get those three choices no matter what you did before, it comes across as very arbitrary.
They just need to put a version with all the fucking DLC on Steam, or even fucking Origin.
I think you really had to be there at the time to understand some peeps beef with ME3. But then again it's the usual case of prerelease 'Hype' not living up to the actual game. Then again you have the other issue where you have a bunch of devs wheeled out in front of the camera or microphone to chat about what they have been working on in isolation for the past 3 years and not really got a sense of perspective of the overall project that an outsider would see. So when you get folks like Mac Walters, Mike Laidlaw and Casey Hudson saying that 'Your choices will have consequence' 'Every question will be answered' and 'The ending wont be cheapened' and it turns out to be a load of bollocks you can see how some folks were a bit peeved, more so the one's who had invested themselves in their 'Shep' a bit too emotionally over the course of 2.99 games.
The reactions of some of them were absolutely horrible though. I mean for fucks sake it's just a game. There are far worse things that could happen to anyone on a day to day basis than get conned by a bunch of suits. Chalk it up to getting mugged off and learn from the experience. Oh but wait EA will say sorry and everything is forgiven for the majority of the aggrieved.
The reactions of some of them were absolutely horrible though. I mean for fucks sake it's just a game. There are far worse things that could happen to anyone on a day to day basis than get conned by a bunch of suits. Chalk it up to getting mugged off and learn from the experience. Oh but wait EA will say sorry and everything is forgiven for the majority of the aggrieved.
Four actually.
You can shoot the SpaceChild for a special ending
And I don't see how that's any different from ME2's Everybody lives/Some folks die/Everybody dies endings.
freshVeggie
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Oh wow
Thanks for all your efforts buddy. I tried the first part so far. Let's hope that solves it!There's dozens of us. Dozens!
Haha, for real though, I believe we should do more game nights or sessions in much quicker succession and with shorter planning time as in "hey let's play chivalry in 30mins". Someone or the group taking the task of choosing a game to play really helps. It did it for me. Hopefully I'll do something like that tomorrow.
So. Many. Categories.
Dsyndrome
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Never thought I'd see someone else with a Wiegraf avatar. Nice taste!
Original ME: ending was just a color swap with nothing even trying to provide closure. Citadel DLC did pretty well with that, I thought.
Hold the fuck up, why do I have ricochets avatar?
Edit: Most have been a mobile fuck-up? I don't know.
Marsipolami
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So I'm guessing since Gears of War: Ultimate Edition hasn't shown up for pre-order yet that Steam isn't included in Microsoft's PC plans. Reasonable?
-MD-
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Probably a Windows 10 store exclusive, I highly doubt we get it on Steam.
Check out the spoiler thread for Her Story, it's quite lengthy and a good read about how people interpreted the events of the game.
Also I think at some point after 50% to 75% (you get achievements) you more or less get the whole thing plus stuff you want to work with. I think otherwise hunting for videos to clear is kinda pointless as it's just busywork imo that's not necessary or important at all.
There is precednet for Microsoft releasing their initially Windows Store exclusive games on Steam at a later date. They did that for Spartan Assault and Skulls of the Shogun.
Though I'd imagine this new initiative may predicate the games staying Windows store exclusive, especially with Killer Instinct offering cross buy.
KOTOR II wasn't in development hell just rushed.
Speaking of games stuck in Origin limbo that more folks should have played, I'd love to see Need for Speed Most Wanted (12) break free one day. Burnout Paradise with licenced cars and no mind numbing, ear bleadingly annoying DJ Atomica, what's not to love? Of course to be worth while it would need to come over with all the DLC and Steam chieveos but fat chance of that happening due to licenced cars and music oh and seeing how Criterion is pretty much dead now
morningbus
Serious Sam is a wicked gahbidge series for chowdaheads.
Speaking of games stuck in Origin limbo that more folks should have played, I'd love to see Need for Speed Most Wanted (13) break free one day. Burnout Paradise with licenced cars and no mind numbing, ear bleadingly annoying DJ Atomica, what's not to love? Of course to be worth while it would need to come over with all the DLC and Steam chieveos but fat chance of that happening due to licenced cars and music oh and seeing how Criterion is pretty much dead now
If they could remove Criterion's patented hand-holding unskippable cut-scenes, you'd have a pretty great game.
Jawmuncher
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Man that image legit shook me because I thought it was a banner on steam. WB apparently own its now after the midway buy out. They really need to throw it up on Steam. Was such a good game.
P.T. is out on PC
Steam soon?
Steam soon?
Another option that wasn't in the original ending. Also, you basically had to play multiplayer in order to unlock the green ending. And you only got about two lines of dialogue explaining what each ending was prior to making your choice, and after making your choice all you get is a short clip of Earth and the rest of the galaxy covered with a different colored light, followed by a shot of your crew crash landing on a strange planet, and roll credits (okay, there was also a scene where Buzz Aldrin tells his grandkid "and that's the story of the Shepard" that served no real purpose).
Seriously, the revised ending was not great, but the original version was a travesty.
"Welcome to Autodrive. Here's how you select an item from a menu" voiced by some slightly docile lady who sounds like she might have taken one too many bottles of anti depressant pills.
I can imagine that getting a C.D. very soon.
Dusk Golem
A 21st Century Rockefeller
Any sort you're looking for?
Suffering 1 can be had for free thanks to the Military... for... some... reason, but the game has in-game ads because of it for the military. XD;
Still salty about it since the PS3/PS4 versions have it and they removed it from the Steam store page! It's like KT just want me to hate them.
Chairmanchuck
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I just dont have a clue why K-Ts Ports are mostly shit.
Not performance-wise, but DoA5 still doesnt have the online mode, OP Warriors wont have it, DW8XL had you to configure the gamepad yourself...
Not performance-wise, but DoA5 still doesnt have the online mode, OP Warriors wont have it, DW8XL had you to configure the gamepad yourself...
LurkerPrime
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Play with the content restored mod, it's the only way to play. It will be a bigger, fuller, and more complete and polished game than the original release with the only bummer being one dungeon it adds dragging a lot.
Let me warn you right now, though, that even with Content Restored KotOR2 falls apart in its final third. Elements of it being rushed and unfinished are obvious, due to how disjointed it can be. That said, don't let this hold you back from playing, instead let it serve as a reminder of how good KotOR2 could've been had Obsidian been allowed to finish it.
KotOR2, inspite of its significant shortcomings, is remembered and respected as a classic for good reasons, ones that you'll discover as you play.
yeah. been around for a while now if I remember correctly.
That's interesting, I used to play America's Army back in the day so that doesn't bother me.
Source?
that's true but i'm pretty dumb and got my theories but nothing super conclusive for me yet
dunno if there is such a thing in the game
yea it's pretty old
what
ever
dood
i mean, yeah, but it's just a tired trope that i don't like seeing anymore
Dusk Golem
A 21st Century Rockefeller
You can find it a few ways. It's the 1.1 patch, it made the game free for people to download and fixed some things with the PC version, the military sponsored it and made the game free to play, but it added military ads.
Here's a few places to get it:
http://the-suffering.en.softonic.com/download
http://www.freewarefiles.com/The-Suffering_program_44708.html
http://megagames.com/freeware/suffering-free-full-game
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