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Master Spy

Stealth-based precision platforming isn't really my cup of tea, but it's one of the new hot things kinda like Ronin. That said, touting your cutscenes as a big selling point is pretty weird.
 

Asgaro

Member
I did accounting and worked through college (paid for it completely) and even the semesters that I put effort to get straight A's in still left me with an ungodly amount of gaming time.

Definitely depends on the field then.

We always have to keep up with everything during the semester, since at the end we have a test. And it's always a damn slaughter.
One example:
(I'm the 2.9/30 lol.)

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Those tests account for 30% or so of the course.
It simply isn't possible for anyone to get good results in a lot of courses.

You study well? Damn shame, you still get fucked.

(I follow engineering with specialisation in ICT.)

The thing is: those tests are nowhere near a representation of the difficulty we will experience when we have work.
Work will be way easier than the sick things we have to be able to do in these tests.
 

Dr Dogg

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I had a 640x480 monitor about 20-22 years ago and then by the late 90's had got a 1024x768 one. Even by the mid noughties 1280x960/1024 was pretty much what most monitors were and even then quite a few widescreen monitors started to show up and most laptop screens were either 1280x800 or 1366x768 so Ubisoft have always been a little odd it seems.

Mega Man music has been amazing, at least for the NES games. As much as people hate it, I actually like some of the weirdness that came from Mega Man 4, such as Pharaoh Man's theme. Come to think of it, many NES games were really awesome for good music

Castlevania, just the first game mind, has plenty of decent track in it let alone the whole series on the NES. Reading through a USGamer interview sounds like this might be the start if an imitative by Capcom and Digital Eclipse might also be looking at other partners to bring NES games to current and future systems and a roundabout way of preserving older titles from the past. A Castlevania Legacy Collection in the future would be awesome,
 

JaseC

gave away the keys to the kingdom.
AssCreed LibHD really ought to auto-save more often than it does. I found out the hard way that completing a naval trade doesn't trigger an auto-save, unlike Black Flag and Rogue. Neither does looting guards (i.e. earning money in general), changing outfits or reducing notoriety. Buying something does the trick, though.
 
Here are some Grandia 2 impressions

seems like an okay port. The lack of widescreen isn't surprising given that some of the magic spells are 4:3 prerendered videos but surely someone will find a way to hack 16:9 into the thing. Also, seems locked at 30 fps but i'm not terribly surprised by that either

AssCreed LibHD really ought to auto-save more often than it does. I found out the hard way that completing a naval trade doesn't trigger an auto-save, unlike Black Flag and Rogue. Neither does looting guards (i.e. earning money in general), changing outfits or reducing notoriety. Buying something does the trick, though.

you have a strong constitution to feel the need to play that. They do nothing with the main character and the whole thing feels like a half baked mess of a game.
 

Dr Dogg

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AssCreed LibHD really ought to auto-save more often than it does. I found out the hard way that completing a naval trade doesn't trigger an auto-save, unlike Black Flag and Rogue. Neither does looting guards (i.e. earning money in general), changing outfits or reducing notoriety. Buying something does the trick, though.

In every AssCreed game I make sure to do a collectable like a high point of flag/feather/animoose fragment if I'm about ready to quit because it pretty much always saves after finding one of them but I'm pretty sure Liberation doesn't half the time.

Kill me right now and reveive me on the first of September.

Isn't that a Green Day song.


I know it's not before someone wants to be a smart arse and tell me the exact title like the pedantic so and so you are!!!
 

Eila

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Here are some Grandia 2 impressions

seems like an okay port. The lack of widescreen isn't surprising given that some of the magic spells are 4:2 prerendered videos but surely someone will find a way to hack 16:9 into the thing. Also, seems locked at 30 fps but i'm not terribly surprised by that either



you have a strong constitution to feel the need to play that. They do nothing with the main character and the whole thing feels like a half baked mess of a game.

Needs a beefy gaming PC to run a dreamcast game? Oh man, how did they screw it up so bad? Because otherwise it looks solid. The graphics look very clean.
 

Dr Dogg

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Actually all this talk about 4:3 aspect ratios and resolutions from the past I might see if I can find a decent old CRT 4:3 monitor that isn't miles away or completely knackered.

Holy shit that took all of 5 minutes

Don't know if I really want to spend a couple of hundred quid though.
 

Nzyme32

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Castlevania, just the first game mind, has plenty of decent track in it let alone the whole series on the NES. Reading through a USGamer interview sounds like this might be the start if an imitative by Capcom and Digital Eclipse might also be looking at other partners to bring NES games to current and future systems and a roundabout way of preserving older titles from the past. A Castlevania Legacy Collection in the future would be awesome,

Yeah I would love for this to be trend. So many great games that just happen to have great music in them, even helping learn the guitar as I tried to work out how to play them. Capcom & Konami seemed to grab quite a lot of good ones, albeit it a bunch of the interesting ones are licensed properties so I doubt that those would get the treatment. Just some quick examples:

Mission Impossible
Monster In My Pocket
Gradius 2
 
Actually all this talk about 4:3 aspect ratios and resolutions from the past I might see if I can find a decent old CRT 4:3 monitor that isn't miles away or completely knackered.

Holy shit that took all of 5 minutes


Don't know if I really want to spend a couple of hundred quid though.

Every time I see a HD CRT like that it just blows my mind that a picture like that can come from a monitor like that. I would love to have one of those, the hertz on those things are insane with almost 0 input lag if I remember right.
 

madjoki

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Needs a beefy gaming PC to run a dreamcast game? Oh man, how did they screw it up so bad? Because otherwise it looks solid. The graphics look very clean.

They probably didn't want to use too much time and money to port old game. It probably works on most current gaming PCs and much higher resolution than Dreamcast was.
 
Definitely depends on the field then.

um yeah. Agreed.

Went through Engineering and it was a real party.

"Sorry man, can't go on Friday night...need to sit in a basement and write some code".

Isn't that a Green Day song.


I know it's not before someone wants to be a smart arse and tell me the exact title like the pedantic so and so you are!!!

Wake Me Up When September Ends.

So no, then you'd miss MGS5. Duh.
 

dex3108

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Hey SteamGAF i am back from the bench :D While i was out i saw that you stared GOTY talk so i decided to see what can i do to make voting easier this year. So i tried to create Google Form and then use responses to calculate results. This is what i have for now. If you want to use it (i am looking at you jshackles :D) or have some requests/suggestions etc. just write them in here.


This is the form you will need to fill. It contains 6 mandatory fields (Nick and 5 choices for games) and one optional field (mini review for your No1. Choice). Every choice will have drop down list of games you can choose from (i will try to enter every game you ask me to enter, last year there was around 150 unique games and i will try at least to match that number). And that's it, only thing you will need to do is choose your games and submit.

Now i will show you how back-end looks like.


First sheet is simply your responses recorded from form submissions. Nothing more, nothing less.


Second sheet is where things are getting interesting. Blue square marks list of games for drop down list in form with Genres. Then i created tables for every choice separately (red square). Every Choice is then compared to main list of games and unique names are displayed, genre is assigned and table then counts how much displayed name is repeated in that choice. After that table just multiplies count number with number of points. That is same for all 5 choices.


Third sheet is for Genre Points. Only genres are displayed and points that game in that genre got. I did it for every choice separately (red square) and then i made Total Points count (blue square). This is optional but I made it just in case somebody wants to see witch genre got most points.


Then we have sheet for Total point count and charts (in this case i used pie charts just to show how it can look). Red square shows game name, genre and total number of points that game got (sum of all points from choices tables). Blue square counts number of Genres so there can be chart that shows which genre has most entries. And you can see charts (in this case separate charts for every choice).

Everything is calculated in real time (well almost in real time, it takes 1-2 minutes for Google Sheets to calculate everything and display it) so there should be minimal work needed for those results to be presented on GAF.

Pros:
  • Minimal work has to be done (probably only Response sheet check for nicks and entries)
  • Simple form for members to fill
  • Results are almost instantaneous

Cons:
  • Games will be predefined (this is mandatory because names need to be exactly the same for calculations to work)
  • There is no way to prevent people outside of SteamGAF to vote (we can share form with Email tag but people can share form after they get the link)
  • I didn't find a way to remove game from the list in next choice if it was chosen in previous choice (this has to be checked manually in Response sheet)
  • There are few "bugs" with genre (sometimes genre is not assigned to game in choices tables)
  • Only one genre per game (if somebody knows how to make multiple genres per game feel free to write how to do it :D)

Also i have something to confess to you. I became console peasant, i bought PS4. And worst ting i did is that i played FPS with gamepad (Black Ops 3 beta). Please forgive me :D (PS4 Short review: Nice piece of hardware that will offer you hours and hours of entertainment but there is big dark cloud above it called PSN).

P.S. Congrats to Salsa he is now proud Argie like Zky :D Also Mad Max rewview embargo is day before release.
 
I have enough to buy Grandia II HD, but the reviews sound mediocre at best (Hard mode is apparently lame, and there's a bug that can mess with your battle rewards). Will probably wait for the Winter Sale before jumping on it.
 
Fair point. That being said, I'm not holding out much hope for this. From the sounds of that review, the port is kind of meh when it comes to what's been upgraded.
 

The_Super_Inframan

"the journey to a thousand games ends with bad rats. ~Lao Tzu" ~Gabe Newell
Fair point. That being said, I'm not holding out much hope for this. From the sounds of that review, the port is kind of meh when it comes to what's been upgraded.

Sure but overall it seems like this will still be the best version available, I can live with that... And I'm just eager to play this again :p
 

Grief.exe

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Fair point. That being said, I'm not holding out much hope for this. From the sounds of that review, the port is kind of meh when it comes to what's been upgraded.

Any word on whether they managed to get native 16:9? Or is it stuck in 4:3? The previews pointed to the latter, but their community manager alluded to the former.
 
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Hey SteamGAF i am back from the bench :D While i was out i saw that you stared GOTY talk so i decided to see what can i do to make voting easier this year. So i tried to create Google Form and then use responses to calculate results. This is what i have for now. If you want to use it (i am looking at you jshackles :D) or have some requests/suggestions etc. just write them in here.

I like that.

Hardest part seems like coming up with a list. We could do something like pinging whoever is running this thing to get a game added that isn't there. Could result in a lot of pings though...

I think in past years there have been a TON of games to get just one vote or what not.
 

jshackles

Gentlemen, we can rebuild it. We have the capability to make the world's first enhanced store. Steam will be that store. Better than it was before.
While i was out i saw that you stared GOTY talk so i decided to see what can i do to make voting easier this year. So i tried to create Google Form and then use responses to calculate results. This is what i have for now. If you want to use it (i am looking at you jshackles :D) or have some requests/suggestions etc. just write them in here.

Your list of cons are exactly the reason I didn't set up something like this last year. And even though the names entered could be checked against GAF users, there's no way to know that that GAF user actually submitted that vote. As in - anyone could go take that Survey, type in zkylon as their username then say Spider: Rite of the Shrouded Moon is their game of the year. Or just picking random usernames for people that may not even post here more than once every few months to try to boost their game of choice to the top.

And although there were only about 150 unique titles in the results last year, I'm expecting that to probably increase this year (as it did over the previous year as well). There are simply more games being released on Steam and (likely) more people voting. Entering each one before it can be selected is going to be almost as big a headache as tallying the votes by hand.

Thanks for the efforts though. However, without any kind of external GAF authorization mechanism (we don't have oAuth, right?) I think the only fair and honest way to conduct the vote is using the traditional PM system like we've done in the past.
 

madjoki

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Your list of cons are exactly the reason I didn't set up something like this last year. And even though the names entered could be checked against GAF users, there's no way to know that that GAF user actually submitted that vote. As in - anyone could go take that Survey, type in zkylon as their username then say Spider: Rite of the Shrouded Moon is their game of the year. Or just picking random usernames for people that may not even post here more than once every few months to try to boost their game of choice to the top.

And although there were only about 150 unique titles in the results last year, I'm expecting that to probably increase this year (as it did over the previous year as well). There are simply more games being released on Steam and (likely) more people voting. Entering each one before it can be selected is going to be almost as big a headache as tallying the votes by hand.

Thanks for the efforts though. However, without any kind of external GAF authorization mechanism (we don't have oAuth, right?) I think the only fair and honest way to conduct the vote is using the traditional PM system like we've done in the past.

Authorization is only real problem. It isn't big problem to generate list of games released on steam due to availability of API's.

Since PM's can be downloaded, parsing is fairly easy provided that users follows correct format, which reduces manual work.
 

Dr Dogg

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Yeah we don't want another Watch Dogs and Watch_Dogs fiasco again. That's a bigger scandal than the some election recounts right there I tell you.

Yeah I would love for this to be trend. So many great games that just happen to have great music in them, even helping learn the guitar as I tried to work out how to play them. Capcom & Konami seemed to grab quite a lot of good ones, albeit it a bunch of the interesting ones are licensed properties so I doubt that those would get the treatment. Just some quick examples:

Mission Impossible
Monster In My Pocket
Gradius 2

Whelp there goes my afternoon. To the archives of YouTube!

Every time I see a HD CRT like that it just blows my mind that a picture like that can come from a monitor like that. I would love to have one of those, the hertz on those things are insane with almost 0 input lag if I remember right.

Well to be fair most modest CRTs you could feed a resolution higher than Full HD back before Full HD was even a thing thanks to their wonderful magic of how the tech works. My old FW900 could do about 2300x1440@60hz before being out of range but I could settle for a messly 1920x1200@100hz. This was 10 years ago mind as well.

Wake Me Up When September Ends.

So no, then you'd miss MGS5. Duh.

If you posted this after reading my spoiler then I'm very, very disappointed.
 

jshackles

Gentlemen, we can rebuild it. We have the capability to make the world's first enhanced store. Steam will be that store. Better than it was before.
Authorization is only real problem. It isn't big problem to generate list of games released on steam due to availability of API's.

Since PM's can be downloaded, parsing is fairly easy provided that users follows correct format, which reduces manual work.

Yeah, I'm actually thinking about building a similar web form but then having is spit out a formatted PM that you can send me that will ensure your vote will be tallied with minimal effort.
 

fertygo

Member
These GMG's indie sales is very bleh, the only thing that interest me is Blackguard's dlc, but there's no deal for the game itself lol
 
Well to be fair most modest CRTs you could feed a resolution higher than Full HD back before Full HD was even a thing thanks to their wonderful magic of how the tech works. My old FW900 could do about 2300x1440@60hz before being out of range but I could settle for a messly 1920x1200@100hz. This was 10 years ago mind as well.

I've always had crappy CRT monitors and TV's so seeing that is really cool.


Not sure if it's been known before, Ethan Carter UE4 will be a stand-alone app and not just a patch. Free for two weeks after release for owners of the UE3 version.

https://twitter.com/TheAstroCrew/status/635829666608214016

That's great news, I guess I'll finally finish it once that comes out.
 

dex3108

Member
Yeah, I'm actually thinking about building a similar web form but then having is spit out a formatted PM that you can send me that will ensure your vote will be tallied with minimal effort.

If you can use form that i created some way feel free to send me PM and i will send you link :D
 

Tizoc

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All I've read about the Grandia 2 Steam/GOG release and it's port info is that it would run fine, but it needs the Durante touch for a few things.

On the plus side it's not like Batman AK PC port.
 
All I've read about the Grandia 2 Steam/GOG release and it's port info is that it needs the Durante touch.

some sad shit when I can have a better version of the game by using NullDC and hacking widescreen in.

But hey, this seems competent enough to pick up on sale somewhere down the line
 
Your list of cons are exactly the reason I didn't set up something like this last year. And even though the names entered could be checked against GAF users, there's no way to know that that GAF user actually submitted that vote. As in - anyone could go take that Survey, type in zkylon as their username then say Spider: Rite of the Shrouded Moon is their game of the year. Or just picking random usernames for people that may not even post here more than once every few months to try to boost their game of choice to the top.

And although there were only about 150 unique titles in the results last year, I'm expecting that to probably increase this year (as it did over the previous year as well). There are simply more games being released on Steam and (likely) more people voting. Entering each one before it can be selected is going to be almost as big a headache as tallying the votes by hand.

Thanks for the efforts though. However, without any kind of external GAF authorization mechanism (we don't have oAuth, right?) I think the only fair and honest way to conduct the vote is using the traditional PM system like we've done in the past.

Depending on scripting interfaces and the like, you could always have something that scrubs your PM box for GOTY votes (or do like GAF GOTY and have a dedicated thread where posts can be scrubbed and data mined easily) and then try to feed that into the google form to make use of dex's work.
 
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