poopninjamvc3mk
I sucked six dicks to get this tag.
Dpad is always better for 2d platformers imo, but some games do feel better on analog can't deny that. 98% are better on dpad though.
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Steam Autumn Sale Thread 2013 - 3% Discounts Sale but no Shark
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Dpad is always better for 2d platformers imo, but some games do feel better on analog can't deny that. 98% are better on dpad though.
Syphon Filter
Member
really? i cant play 2d games with an analog.
Haunted
Member
When dpad and sticks have the same use, I always use the analogues. Haven't used a dpad for primary movement since the SNES days.
I'm sure there are a handful of exceptions, (menu based games with bad stick deadzone setups maybe?) but I can't recall too many.
AcceptableGhost
Member
sounds like all balls no shaft
Nabs
Member
I use the analog stick for pretty much every platformer I play. Dustforce, Volgarr, SMB, Donkey Kong Country Returns... Yeah. It'll probably stay like this until I get something that matches the SNES pad.
I'm also very much a Dpad person for 2D games, but I didn't have any problems using the sticks in SMB. YMMV of course.
It's its own thing. To say it "misses the point" of being something it isn't trying to be is like shitting on NBA 2K14 for being a terrible platformer.
Boss Doggie
all my loli wolf companions are so moe
Y'all should buy Wizardry bundle
Prophane33
Member
Sell me on it. I keep hearing people mention it but I don't know why. It seems like some old dated dungeon crawlers to me. Are they still enjoyable?
OneEightZero
aka ThreeOneFour
I'm crossing my fingers and hoping like hell I don't miss Spelunky before the sale ends. Stupid payroll issues have tripped up my Autumn Sale plannings. =/
Im_Special
Member
Thanks for trying to help, it seems like these games might just be bugged on Valves end then? Do others have this problem, do others get missing icons like this.
It's ok very responsive personally I use the analog stick for movement the controller as a whole is good quality better then the f310 anyway.
Shameless self promotion, but here's my review. I really liked it.
Imperial Edition looks like an extra skin, campaign map, and the soundtrack.
They're old, dated, hard as nails, incredibly deep, incredibly long dungeon crawlers. Do you think that sounds good? Then buy them.
I have yet to break down and purchase Assassin's Creed IV on Amazon, but I'm just about there.
I know there isn't too much of a focus on present day activities, but someone please tell me whether or not there are wacky twists and at least some focus on present day shit with weird wacky alien hijinx. If there is, I'mma purchase this. Ugh, so close.
I know there isn't too much of a focus on present day activities, but someone please tell me whether or not there are wacky twists and at least some focus on present day shit with weird wacky alien hijinx. If there is, I'mma purchase this. Ugh, so close.
The Grim Heaper
Member
It's really relaxing just driving down a road listening to radio from other countries.
Atraveller
Banned
Go for it!
MarcoZombieCannon
Member
Sorry I took forever to reply, I was at a ballet.
Uh, I think so? I've never had to nuke a giveaway before though, so I'd have to go check the modbot thread to see how to do it.
It was working on and off for me. I signed up with my email and got a working key, and also signed up with my facebook and got that duplicate key. I may or may not try with my other emails.
Gintoki313
Banned
This should be very interesting to see then. I don't know how Assassin's Creed 3 can mess up to FF13 levels of slow paced.
Time to quit the job and become a real life trucker
It does seem releveant to my interests. Bought.
Syphon Filter
Member
how is it better?
jshackles
Gentlemen, we can rebuild it. We have the capability to make the world's first enhanced store. Steam will be that store. Better than it was before.
So I took your guy's advice and gave Spelunky another try. I know I'll catch shit for saying this, but the game just isn't for me. I finally got to the end of the first world and had a bomb left over so I gave it to the tunnel guy and... nothing. I died in world two and when I started my next playthrough, there was no tunnel. No shortcut. No progress.
I feel like I gave it more of my time than should be required to start being fun, 3 hours.
I'm not saying the game is bad, because I can see the appeal. It's just not for me.
I feel like I gave it more of my time than should be required to start being fun, 3 hours.
I'm not saying the game is bad, because I can see the appeal. It's just not for me.
The Illiterati
Member
You need to get to the tunnel man three times to open a shortcut for each world. If you're getting better you're making progress. Progress isn't made in a linear way. I've personally never beaten the game, and I'm not that good at it, the fun is just in learning how these seemingly random combinations of platform enemies/structures combine into a chaotic yet survivable whole.
SapientWolf
Trucker Sexologist
It's alright, with the 60fps fix. I had more fun with Serious Sam 3 and Red Faction: Armageddon though, which have similar gameplay.
Intheflorsh
Banned
You have to do several odds and ends for a shortcut, which means reaching the end of the level several times.
And yeah, if you need some kind of arbitrary gameplay element to signify that you've made 'progression' then Spelunky is not for you.
NekoToshiro
Member
Whats the general consensus of Contagion?
All this talk about Rogue Legacy for and against, I'm happy for it.
I will say as someone who has played it, but loves rogue likes and old home computer platformers that inspired Spelunky, La-Mulana, and so forth, it intrigues me that is what they are being compared to as that's not what I got out of it.
I would describe Rogue Legacy in two different ways, and please note that both are positive.
1. Rogue Legacy is an action platformer in the style of Facebook/web browser/mobile device click to get more clicks. By which I mean like you farm so you can build a bigger farm in Farmville, you make cookies so you can make more in Cookie Clicker, you dig and find fossiles so you can dig some more in Super Motherlode/SteamWorld Dig (one of my favourite handheld games), and so forth.
Rogue Legacy is a title where you keep fighting enemies, find items, do various little extra tricks (take no damage, don't face the treasure chest before opening it, get across a row of spikes using flying runes if you have them) etc, and so forth so that you can do all that some more. Aye it's not like Spelunky or Endless Mode in Mega Man 9, but it's not trying to be as such. It's built around someone who can play as little or as much as they want and still get somewhere, even if it's not to the end.
2. Rogue Legacy is a game designed around the idea of punishing death, easy loses, showcase to develop skills or picking the right equipment, without actually cruel or mean or any such thing that would put people off. It's the rogue like to get people who might not otherwise play it, to get used to it and perhaps even enjoy it in the same vien that Pokemon Rangers or Chocobo Mystery Dungeon has done so. It's no worse than Pokémon Conquest being the easy and welcoming version of Nobunaga's Ambition.
It is easy to focus only on the "grind", but that's when it comes to the point it's not working for you. Ggrind being forced levelling up or acquiring of items/abilities just to match up with difficulty of a area or set moment to succeed in my personal definition. If I level up exploring a RPG world and I'm at the "right level" and never notice, it wasn't a grind to me.
By no means is it a game for everyone and I fully understand any complaints again, the comparisons for as I think about them, but in my mind it's just not something I would do. If I want Ghosts And Goblins to be more like Castlevania from the DS, what exactly am I actually looking for? I can go back and play Mario and Dizzy or other ZX Spectrum platformers, but I'll be doing so for different platforming experiences.
Now all that said? There is skill and improvement sought after in Rogue Legacy. You get a lot more out of the game by becoming good with that floating rune or double jump, there are segments (ignoring the time stop magic) where not getting damaged requires knowing how to play the game well, aspects where you can fight the same enemy numerous times and you can still die if you haven't learned how to avoid attacks or properly time attacks with various items. I still can't get all eight targets with the knife for one mini-game.
Someday I'll try a run to beat the game without any additional armour, runes, or improved stats. I'll see how far I can go and that will be rewarding to me as a challenge because I will do better than the me who first started the game not long ago or became too dependent on improved stats.
I can not agree with that line about Super Meat Boy at all. Aye it takes good reflexes and often precision to succeed, it still offers plenty of different ways to play and succeed. For a lot of the game, players can take it quite slow and be extra cautious about different segments.
For the entire portion of the game save for Warp Zones and glitched worlds (I forget their specific names), every stage is beatable with all the various characters offered which means numerous different ways to play them. I'm not going to play a stage the exact same way I would as Super Meat Boy if the character I'm using has a charged "push forward" or can float after all.
Now if you don't like it that is perfectly fine, but I've played it and seen it played more ways than I have Super Mario Bros for example. It's a skill based game through and through, in the variety of ways to play it. Except maybe one unlockable character that makes it all too easy, but he is hard to unlock anyroad.
Vast majority of people will get more out of and enjoy Dishonored I believe.
However I will say if you get Far Cry 3, I recommend the following things to do for a fun experience.
Find out how to lose the user interfaces, which means all the menus and health and what have you.
Get the bow and arrow as soon as possible.
Be stealthy when possible, use the stone to lure enemies into traps.
Only take out enemy camps when you really need to, otherwise leave as many as possible so the world is constantly filled with patrolling enemies and reinforcements for them can arrive often. It just becomes very empty without them.
Hunt. Hunt not just for improved items, but for the fun of a chase without abusing or spamming bullets and rocket launchers and the like. If you can really get into it, you can get a lot of fun around stalking a tiger and killing it without it ever noticing you, or using a turtle with a mine as a trap for a komodo dragon.
Take a moment to enjoy the visual scenery as you glide around places.
If you get Dishonored. Don't bother or focus too much on Stealth unless that's your go to and most fun type of play style even in games that don't typically offer anything for stealth. The real key here is to use your various powers and abilities for the best style of killing of enemies with set-ups. If you've played Bulletstorm, pretend it's a bit like that and you just can't see score points or anything when you kill enemies. Be creative, have fun, think of different ways to take someone out.
While not exactly the "pure experience" you are looking for as there are items you can unlock through specific tasks and just playing such as "more bombs", I think you could still get plenty enjoyment out of Super House Of Dead Ninjas.
It's a game where there are a lot of weapons you can unlock and use, but ultimately and most importantly in the end it's about learning the game and skill, with an endless mode if you so desire. How far and how fast/how long you go is all up to you and what you can do in the game.
http://store.steampowered.com/app/224820/
It depends entirely on the game for me. I'll try both out for a good 20 to 40 minutes, find out which I feel I get the most out of it and best response and go from there. Rayman Origins and Joe Danger it's analogue stick, Super Meat Boy and Great Giana Sisters it's d-pad, Dynamite Dan and Defy Gravity Extended it's keyboard.
I will say as someone who has played it, but loves rogue likes and old home computer platformers that inspired Spelunky, La-Mulana, and so forth, it intrigues me that is what they are being compared to as that's not what I got out of it.
I would describe Rogue Legacy in two different ways, and please note that both are positive.
1. Rogue Legacy is an action platformer in the style of Facebook/web browser/mobile device click to get more clicks. By which I mean like you farm so you can build a bigger farm in Farmville, you make cookies so you can make more in Cookie Clicker, you dig and find fossiles so you can dig some more in Super Motherlode/SteamWorld Dig (one of my favourite handheld games), and so forth.
Rogue Legacy is a title where you keep fighting enemies, find items, do various little extra tricks (take no damage, don't face the treasure chest before opening it, get across a row of spikes using flying runes if you have them) etc, and so forth so that you can do all that some more. Aye it's not like Spelunky or Endless Mode in Mega Man 9, but it's not trying to be as such. It's built around someone who can play as little or as much as they want and still get somewhere, even if it's not to the end.
2. Rogue Legacy is a game designed around the idea of punishing death, easy loses, showcase to develop skills or picking the right equipment, without actually cruel or mean or any such thing that would put people off. It's the rogue like to get people who might not otherwise play it, to get used to it and perhaps even enjoy it in the same vien that Pokemon Rangers or Chocobo Mystery Dungeon has done so. It's no worse than Pokémon Conquest being the easy and welcoming version of Nobunaga's Ambition.
It is easy to focus only on the "grind", but that's when it comes to the point it's not working for you. Ggrind being forced levelling up or acquiring of items/abilities just to match up with difficulty of a area or set moment to succeed in my personal definition. If I level up exploring a RPG world and I'm at the "right level" and never notice, it wasn't a grind to me.
By no means is it a game for everyone and I fully understand any complaints again, the comparisons for as I think about them, but in my mind it's just not something I would do. If I want Ghosts And Goblins to be more like Castlevania from the DS, what exactly am I actually looking for? I can go back and play Mario and Dizzy or other ZX Spectrum platformers, but I'll be doing so for different platforming experiences.
Now all that said? There is skill and improvement sought after in Rogue Legacy. You get a lot more out of the game by becoming good with that floating rune or double jump, there are segments (ignoring the time stop magic) where not getting damaged requires knowing how to play the game well, aspects where you can fight the same enemy numerous times and you can still die if you haven't learned how to avoid attacks or properly time attacks with various items. I still can't get all eight targets with the knife for one mini-game.
Someday I'll try a run to beat the game without any additional armour, runes, or improved stats. I'll see how far I can go and that will be rewarding to me as a challenge because I will do better than the me who first started the game not long ago or became too dependent on improved stats.
I can not agree with that line about Super Meat Boy at all. Aye it takes good reflexes and often precision to succeed, it still offers plenty of different ways to play and succeed. For a lot of the game, players can take it quite slow and be extra cautious about different segments.
For the entire portion of the game save for Warp Zones and glitched worlds (I forget their specific names), every stage is beatable with all the various characters offered which means numerous different ways to play them. I'm not going to play a stage the exact same way I would as Super Meat Boy if the character I'm using has a charged "push forward" or can float after all.
Now if you don't like it that is perfectly fine, but I've played it and seen it played more ways than I have Super Mario Bros for example. It's a skill based game through and through, in the variety of ways to play it. Except maybe one unlockable character that makes it all too easy, but he is hard to unlock anyroad.
Vast majority of people will get more out of and enjoy Dishonored I believe.
However I will say if you get Far Cry 3, I recommend the following things to do for a fun experience.
Find out how to lose the user interfaces, which means all the menus and health and what have you.
Get the bow and arrow as soon as possible.
Be stealthy when possible, use the stone to lure enemies into traps.
Only take out enemy camps when you really need to, otherwise leave as many as possible so the world is constantly filled with patrolling enemies and reinforcements for them can arrive often. It just becomes very empty without them.
Hunt. Hunt not just for improved items, but for the fun of a chase without abusing or spamming bullets and rocket launchers and the like. If you can really get into it, you can get a lot of fun around stalking a tiger and killing it without it ever noticing you, or using a turtle with a mine as a trap for a komodo dragon.
Take a moment to enjoy the visual scenery as you glide around places.
If you get Dishonored. Don't bother or focus too much on Stealth unless that's your go to and most fun type of play style even in games that don't typically offer anything for stealth. The real key here is to use your various powers and abilities for the best style of killing of enemies with set-ups. If you've played Bulletstorm, pretend it's a bit like that and you just can't see score points or anything when you kill enemies. Be creative, have fun, think of different ways to take someone out.
While not exactly the "pure experience" you are looking for as there are items you can unlock through specific tasks and just playing such as "more bombs", I think you could still get plenty enjoyment out of Super House Of Dead Ninjas.
It's a game where there are a lot of weapons you can unlock and use, but ultimately and most importantly in the end it's about learning the game and skill, with an endless mode if you so desire. How far and how fast/how long you go is all up to you and what you can do in the game.
http://store.steampowered.com/app/224820/
It depends entirely on the game for me. I'll try both out for a good 20 to 40 minutes, find out which I feel I get the most out of it and best response and go from there. Rayman Origins and Joe Danger it's analogue stick, Super Meat Boy and Great Giana Sisters it's d-pad, Dynamite Dan and Defy Gravity Extended it's keyboard.
the blue lonegoon
Banned
It didn't click for me until I mastered the first world and was able to breeze past it every run through. Then I became addicted to it. You actually can unlock shortcuts, though I like to go for the straight shoot. Any progress is pretty much peeled back in layers, you learn more about how the game works every time you play.
toddhunter
Member
Hey you tried, there is nothing wrong with that and not every game is for everybody.
blame space
Banned
Is spelunky still going to be on sale tomorrow? Or when does it stop being on sale?
The Illiterati
Member
I bought so far:
Spleunky (for the fourth time)
Papers Please
State of Decay
Gone Home
The Bridge
Trials Evolution
Papo and Yo (IndieGameStand)
4 Legacy of Kain games(Amazon)
AC4 for PS4(Amazon)
Now just want dailies on Wolf Among Us, Brothers, and Desktop Dungeons.
Spleunky (for the fourth time)
Papers Please
State of Decay
Gone Home
The Bridge
Trials Evolution
Papo and Yo (IndieGameStand)
4 Legacy of Kain games(Amazon)
AC4 for PS4(Amazon)
Now just want dailies on Wolf Among Us, Brothers, and Desktop Dungeons.
The Illiterati
Member
It's already not a daily deal. It was 3.75. Now it is 7.50 until Dec 3rd.
HP_Wuvcraft
Banned
GAF, it's so hard to Christmaskah shop for you because there are so many of you on my friend's list.
I'll get everyone Bad Rats.
I'll get everyone Bad Rats.
JSoup
Banned
So far, all I've bought is the not sale related Flying Bundle (http://www.flyingbundle.com/?ref=30e70b8fb29171dda17eea747eae4bc1), specifically for Hack, Slash, Loot. Still considering the Blackwell bundle, as I've read good things about the series.
Intheflorsh
Banned
I played 15 minutes of the first Blackwell game. Does it get better?
NekoToshiro
Member
No one has feelings towards Contagion?
Press the "up queue" button.
Far better games available for cheaper today alone.
Has also been cheaper on many occasions.
trailmix16
Member
on my top 10 of 2013
crazyrabbits
Banned
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