2 more days.
While I want more SR, I... don't really want to play as Gat?
Gat's like the crazy friend we all have that's okay in small doses, but hanging out with him all the time gets exhausting.
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2 more days.
While I want more SR, I... don't really want to play as Gat?
Gat's like the crazy friend we all have that's okay in small doses, but hanging out with him all the time gets exhausting.
I thought you could choose to play as either Gat or Kinzie, no?
Nabs
Member
12 hours, you sure? It took me 9 hours to beat CQ1 (with DLC) and I got 19/21 achievements. The main quest was only 6 or so hours.
I wasn't a fan of CQ2 either, but performance was waaay better than any other DF game (60fps for real). I had Vsync on + triple buffering, and it was a pretty smooth experience. No weird speedups or crashes here.
Then just play as Kinzie.
I've always thought a better solution would be to set up a satellite company specifically for certain necessities of Steam that would benefit from a corporate culture.
Purely for customer service, setting up consumer conventions, etc. Even just code monkeys to handle work-intensive tasks that the main Valve employees can't be bothered with, Android app for example.
Then you can keep hiring the best of the best at Valve proper to work on and develop whatever they wish.
Yeah, I still can't quite figure it out. If we can choose to play as Kinzie for the whole game, I'll buy it day one (especially if the story is somewhat different). If she's just a co-op character or someone you play as for a small part of the story, I'll just wait and get it cheap. I've yet to see anything conclusive either way.
ashecitism
Member
The article has been pulled, not the driver, since officially it's not out yet/hasn't been announced 
ashecitism
Member
There was no link.
General_Frags
Member
Whatever happened to that project Valve was doing with those college kids, there was a blog and a site Steampipline or something. I remember it being a pseudo grad program.
But seriously it still baffles me that a company like Valve still only has 300+ employees even with making games and maintaining and updating Steam.
But seriously it still baffles me that a company like Valve still only has 300+ employees even with making games and maintaining and updating Steam.
Ah. Thanks anyway.
I'm almost 100% sure you can play Kinzie the whole game.
That never went anywhere. The Community group was only updated once and that was well over a year ago, plus the site is no longer online and Archive.org's most recent cache of it reveals that it stopped being updated after a few weeks.
The amusing thing is that the Community group description still says this:
lashman
Steam-GAF's Official Ambassador to Gaming-GAF
ashecitism
Member
Expanding a lot would mess with their structure probably. But the question is, would we customers care if it would?
CheesecakeRecipe
Stormy Grey
There are puzzle elements, you do actually need to pay attention to your surroundings as you move through them. Full thoughts here.
What makes me wary about No Man's Sky is that its mechanics and systems seem so barebones and simplistic, the economy in particular. You find stuff and sell it for money which you use to buy, judging by the examples they released, very generic and unexciting upgrades. Minecraft's longetivity stems from its almost limitless creative potential due to its elaborate crafting and building systems which NMS has none of, it's a very odd comparison to draw.
I love exploration and "walking simulators", but those games' strength is that they're generally well paced and focused on what they want to accomplish. I just don't see No Man's Sky's foundation carrying a 40-100 hour experience, like, at all.
I love exploration and "walking simulators", but those games' strength is that they're generally well paced and focused on what they want to accomplish. I just don't see No Man's Sky's foundation carrying a 40-100 hour experience, like, at all.
You know, I'd love a game combining the kind of procedural world generation they're using in NMS with Minecraft-style building and crafting.
I'd be totally happy roaming the galaxy looking for strange and interesting places and creatures and taking photos of neat finds, myself. Though I'm probably not typical in that.
Kurt Russell
Member
Yep. I was disappointed that the new Elite doesn't have planetary landings yet, so No Man's Sky is one of my most anticipated things now.
The trailers have been amazing so far.
I'm enjoying the new Elite.
My issue with No Man's Sky at the moment is, they haven't showed any gameplay. It's just been flying/walking through a world not doing much. I also have my reservations about procedurally generated worlds.
Until they show more than just exploration, I find myself unexcited.
Edit: It's worth noting I only saw the main key note at PSX, so if they did show actual gameplay afterwards, I didn't see it. Will have to watch if that is the case.
InfiniteNine
Rolling Girl
I have no idea what those are! I'm also not interested in NMS though but my girlfriend is.
Flying and walking through the world is gameplay though.
Not enough to carry a game, unless there's some kind of story.
Free-range space sims of yesteryear that basically gave you a universe and told you to go have fun with it.
no its very puzzle-y, and not easy either, those puzzles are quite obtuse
someguyinahat
Member
In a good Riven-way, or an inflatable-duck, syrup-on-the-cat-hair way?
you might just sold me on it, I dismissed it before as a walking sim. Puzzley is good, but how much obtuse? like not logical, or just not obvious.
Thanks for posting impressions
I still need to bug you some about controls, as I've seen someone complaining that they are kinda bad. Are controls responsive and good? no crashing problems too?
I don't particularly like losing xp in games, I must admit, whatever reasoning, though
Kurt Russell
Member
Not enough to carry a game, unless there's some kind of story.
Depends on the game. I'm sure that a lot of emergent narrative will arise from NMS
Buy it, folks!
CheesecakeRecipe
Stormy Grey
Most of it is perfectly logical, just revolves around awareness. A majority of the puzzles come in the form of the crime scene sequences, which require you to correctly identify the order in which events happened. Sometimes this is difficult to figure out, but it mostly hinges on paying attention to details - who is holding what, what happened in the spot previously, etc. Sometimes it takes trial or two to figure things out but hardly repetitive or obtuse.
Some other puzzles require some abstract thinking but again are all based around situational awareness. No inflatable duck puzzles here.
you guys amaze me, not all games need story, since when space sims are played for a story?
or you wouldn't play even tetris because, you can't possibly justify spending so much time with so simple mechanics and with no story? That's not good example, I know, but it's hard for me to understand how somebody could never to play a game with countless hours spent with it without any narrative whatsoever or need for it.
thanks, wishlisted
I just imagined someone playing stars! for that reason (><)
thanks, wishlisted
A Fish Aficionado
I am going to make it through this year if it kills me
You're old.
Of course, but I'm not sure I'd call it a game if all you're doing is exploring.
My point is more that they haven't really shown me the meat of the game, as I think it's fairly obvious that exploration isn't just it(Trading has been mentioned and there's obviously meant to be some combat). I find it hard to be excited on just ideas, especially when it's a relatively unknown developer who hasn't really done anything on this scale before. Then there's the issue of a release date.
I'm sure it'll probably turn out fine, and pretty good. However, as someone who doesn't really get that excited about stuff any more, I find it especially hard to be with not much to go on.
I'm too much of a pessimist, I suppose.If you're referring to what I said. I think you COMPLETELY missed why I said what I said.
Read my other posts.Edit: To add if I didn't make my self very clear. I meant that just exploration would probably be okay if it was mixed with something like a story. Like Gone Home as an example. Where as exploration alone doesn't seem very gamey, more like those experiences/tech demos. I didn't mean games need it to exist. If I thought that why would I be playing and enjoying Elite which I'd imagine is the kind of style No Man's Sky will be aiming for.
Get off my lawn.
the good way
its both logical but not obvious, if that makes sense. I havent finished it tho
dat reference
What's going on with that game? I wanted it since I saw it but then kind of forgot about till you mentioned it
Phawx
Member
you might just sold me on it, I dismissed it before as a walking sim. Puzzley is good, but how much obtuse? like not logical, or just not obvious.
Thanks for posting impressions
I still need to bug you some about controls, as I've seen someone complaining that they are kinda bad. Are controls responsive and good? no crashing problems too?
I don't particularly like losing xp in games, I must admit, whatever reasoning, though
I guess I didn't comment on the controls, outside of putting inflection on the ball, because they were fine. I'm really not certain why someone would complain about controls. Though I guess because I used a 360 controller?
I don't know, seemed very responsive and accurate.
Its cheaper from russian sources in the B/S/T thread