Dongs Macabre
aka Daedalos42
Now that Halo MCC is out on the Xbox One, I hope this means they'll be releasing it on Steam as well.
Believe.
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STEAM | December 2014 - Read OP for winter sale questions
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Now that Halo MCC is out on the Xbox One, I hope this means they'll be releasing it on Steam as well.
Believe.
GFWL is already back under "Xbox Games" branding. Currently Windows Store exclusive. (so, Windows 8+ and Windows Phones).
Phawx
Member
I have an extra one of these:
http://cdn.steamcommunity.com/econo...aDKJo9lm6WHJl7JNmUoXupetTfwq9vdaXLfByZxktKAIx
if you want it
If win 10 has some OS features that can connect all Windows devices like streaming and game sharing, it would be cool, and crossbuy (i guess it shouldn't matter if they're on the same OS?) like steam.
I wonder where they're going to sell their games though, assuming they are, I wouldn't mind using their windows store.
Freedom = $1.05
Banned
If they announce MCC for windows while it's still broken on the XB1, well, you might as well shut down Gaming because it's going to be pure fire and garbage over there.
Also, i made +$7 on my card purge last night. No regrets, couldn't take a chance that every card was going to go for .03 in a post-gem world. I'm legit scared of what they're gonna do with gems next.
Kaleinc
Banned
I don't get it.
This War of Mine (RU) on steamdb is only purchase restricted: PurchaseRestrictedCountries RU BY UA AM AZ GE KZ KG MD TJ TM UZ
so why is it sitting in trader's inventory flagged
This is a restricted gift which can only be redeemed in these countries: Armenia, Azerbaijan, Belarus, Georgia, Kyrgyzstan, Kazakhstan, Moldova, Republic of, Tajikistan, Turkmenistan, Uzbekistan, Ukraine, Russian Federation?
This War of Mine (RU) on steamdb is only purchase restricted: PurchaseRestrictedCountries RU BY UA AM AZ GE KZ KG MD TJ TM UZ
so why is it sitting in trader's inventory flagged
This is a restricted gift which can only be redeemed in these countries: Armenia, Azerbaijan, Belarus, Georgia, Kyrgyzstan, Kazakhstan, Moldova, Republic of, Tajikistan, Turkmenistan, Uzbekistan, Ukraine, Russian Federation?
Shalashaska
Member
Uhh.. yes please.
Nope. You are seeing the cd key sub. It only applies to cd-keys. The sub of the store version is the same for everyone and it has ACRTAG applied.
Kaleinc
Banned
Oh, thanks, I always look at the wrong package.
jshackles
Gentlemen, we can rebuild it. We have the capability to make the world's first enhanced store. Steam will be that store. Better than it was before.
Waking up to the Steam market devastation of yesterday. It's good to see that I still have my 21 remaining gems even though they're currently unusable. Also good to see I still have my Steam wallet funds - there was a very real possibility that they could have simply fixed it by rolling all market transactions backwards from yesterday.
I hope the issue with the gems gets fixed and they bring back the items -> gems -> auction meta game. Unfortunately I think their "turn gems into booster packs" was a severely flawed plan, at least in the iteration I saw last night.
I commented last week that the average price of a booster pack was $1. If they want to maintain that price while having fixed gem values on items, they need to charge WAY more gems to get a booster pack. Even the boosters that cost 1200 gems were far too cheap - that's only 12 profile backgrounds. Those 12 profile backgrounds would net you $0.12 on the market (after fees) meaning it would severely impact the market value of booster packs. Hell - buying the backgrounds for $0.03 each and turning 12 into gems was still cheaper than buying most of those booster packs.
If we see this feature come back, the only way it can be done without tanking the market would be for booster packs to cost 10,000 gems. That's 100 x $0.03 profile backgrounds or emoticons which are worth approximately $1 when sold. The better way to fix it would be for the item's "gem value" to be approximated based on the item's market value. Suddenly that "guarded" background from CS:GO is only worth 5 gems (instead of 100) and buying them in bulk to consume them is a much more risky proposition.
An interesting market crash, for sure. Hopefully the folks at Valve learned from this experience.
I hope the issue with the gems gets fixed and they bring back the items -> gems -> auction meta game. Unfortunately I think their "turn gems into booster packs" was a severely flawed plan, at least in the iteration I saw last night.
I commented last week that the average price of a booster pack was $1. If they want to maintain that price while having fixed gem values on items, they need to charge WAY more gems to get a booster pack. Even the boosters that cost 1200 gems were far too cheap - that's only 12 profile backgrounds. Those 12 profile backgrounds would net you $0.12 on the market (after fees) meaning it would severely impact the market value of booster packs. Hell - buying the backgrounds for $0.03 each and turning 12 into gems was still cheaper than buying most of those booster packs.
If we see this feature come back, the only way it can be done without tanking the market would be for booster packs to cost 10,000 gems. That's 100 x $0.03 profile backgrounds or emoticons which are worth approximately $1 when sold. The better way to fix it would be for the item's "gem value" to be approximated based on the item's market value. Suddenly that "guarded" background from CS:GO is only worth 5 gems (instead of 100) and buying them in bulk to consume them is a much more risky proposition.
An interesting market crash, for sure. Hopefully the folks at Valve learned from this experience.
Freedom = $1.05
Banned
-Valve creates gems, a means of exchanging your junk items for something of value. also meant to reduce the amount of items on the market, with the goal of raising the value of remaining items.
-They sell sacks of gems for .03, and you could flip those sacks for booster packs.
-card market starts crashing as everyone and their mother starts buying sacks of gems and making booster packs. People who have valuable cards dump them in fear of not getting a decent return on them
-volvo regrets everything, removes gems from the market and stops development of half life 3 as they ran out of money.
i wouldn't be surprised if they forgot a zero when doing the booster exchange stuff and that's what made things nutty.
YianGaruga
Banned
We ruined it
freshVeggie
Member
If games not being full exclusives anymore somehow devalues your purchasing decision, then maybe buying xbox in the first place was not a smart decision?
Really pitiful to see people get joy out of exclusion of others. Humanity can really reach very deep lows.
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Bad news for Russia. Great news for me.
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There is not but there is a character limit which could about double after modbot's edits your original posts ones. You gotta keep that in mind.
I recall JaseC giving away several hundred games and modbot just not being able to edit after a certain point the winners.
You should be easily safe to up until 200 though.
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Nice impressions.
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Kinda bummed market wouldn't let me buy any sacks. Would have been cool to have more card sets and craft badges. I needs the friend lots
who wants free card money?
some good stuff, some bad stuff, lots of cards stuff, lots of +1s, have at it, no restrictions, take how many you want, I dont give a fuck. Dont sleep on the list, theres some good shit in there
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Surgeon Simulator 2013 --MB-4D8FE6324DB9D2F8- Taken by Zeeman. 3 entrants total.
The Last Door - Collector's Edition --MB-EF894F4028640D69- Taken by DarKshodaN. 4 entrants total.
Crystals of Time --MB-A72D2983C753184E- Taken by drakaenae. 1 entrants total.
Them - The Summoning -- MB-3D63771CFEAB9DE9
Space Hack --MB-3D7D39F70E35C0FF- Taken by RealMeat. 1 entrants total.
Super Trench Attack! --MB-9D2575E2ED40CB6D- Taken by C4rter. 2 entrants total.
Orborun --MB-A7E199AF1719D556- Taken by dot. 1 entrants total.
Time Ramesside -- MB-AB77E0A045B47CF7
Speed Kills #2 --MB-849CF2210B8D44F9- Taken by Kurt Russell. 1 entrants total.
Realms of the Haunting --MB-037D3B471323E078- Taken by skullmuffins. 1 entrants total.
Rover Rescue -- MB-6100AA238F068129
Yury --MB-7340ECC46A331666- Taken by Naked Snake. 1 entrants total.
Sang-Froid - Tales of Werewolves --MB-99555EE70D57CC0E- Taken by yuraya. 2 entrants total.
Solar Flux --MB-E8884FE34E309526- Taken by Purkake4. 1 entrants total.
Racer 8 --MB-07C9D2DD462F8FBD- Taken by r3n4ud. 1 entrants total.
Dead Hungry Diner #2 --MB-855D7EBF0A35BB92- Taken by Lobogris. 1 entrants total.
Super Trench Attack! #2 --MB-DD97D6C6D1BB897C- Taken by Lomax. 1 entrants total.
Siege of Inaolia --MB-25E419304C671491- Taken by arts&crafts. 2 entrants total.
Gold Rush! Classic --MB-AA6EBB444873A680- Taken by Benedict. 2 entrants total.
Kingdom Elemental -- MB-51DD1DD61533EFFA
Ionball 2: Ionstorm --MB-68C20F039572E49D- Taken by roadrunn3r. 2 entrants total.
Euro Truck Simulator 2 --MB-1B48B8C55E7625E9- Taken by Shalashaska. 7 entrants total.
Alone In The Dark --MB-A9E6A7DA51FC9880- Taken by fspm. 5 entrants total.
Platypus --MB-550797C843C3B53F- Taken by WisK. 2 entrants total.
OCEAN CITY RACING --MB-0E8799807C0D7022- Taken by Ruruja. 2 entrants total.
Eversion --MB-1A0A702A36A5BD64- Taken by topyy. 3 entrants total.
Nightmares From the Deep: The Siren's Call --MB-2EF10CC270DA3835- Taken by skullmuffins. 2 entrants total.
Majesty Gold HD --MB-C6AD9F38ECCBE5E2- Taken by GUN-NAC. 1 entrants total.
Deep Eclipse: New Space Odyssey #2 -- MB-691CCF06D94B73A4
Nux -- MB-275E4A15AF6B20EA
Blackguards --
MB-9FE18CCD317C707A- Taken by agniswarm. 6 entrants total.
Jets 'n' Guns Gold --MB-8BE2CC3EA4B90390- Taken by Vlad. 1 entrants total.
Worms Clan Wars #2 --MB-8281AAC645EBB641- Taken by TheAutomator. 5 entrants total.
Hero Siege --MB-B785DC4B82553A4C- Taken by Shalashaska. 3 entrants total.
Paranormal --MB-43282E80CECB18CB- Taken by Casimir. 1 entrants total.
Fireburst --MB-EA41A88B545990B7- Taken by MMBosstones86. 1 entrants total.
Akane The Kunoichi --MB-B4F12F39D0BF62B9- Taken by Bayonetta. 2 entrants total.
Commando Jack -- MB-1DAFD2C3FD85056C
To The Moon --MB-A22D490E0854BEDB- Taken by Mr. Doop. 3 entrants total.
Deponia --MB-FFD602342A7D7601- Taken by Andrefpvs. 2 entrants total.
Great Permutator -- MB-659F89ECF21D8A5F
Overcast - Walden and the Werewolf -- MB-5F52CB1E88DA710A
The Maker's Eden --MB-B86304FD9847B421- Taken by S1n1st3r. 3 entrants total.
Aces Wild: Manic Brawling Action! --MB-3701DEDA6B13B24A- Taken by cicero. 3 entrants total.
Hero of the Kingdom --MB-DDF10C590D614765- Taken by KScorp. 1 entrants total.
REFLEX --- Taken by Teppic. 5 entrants total.MB-0F07894F616DBC37- Taken by freshVeggie
AVSEQ -- MB-C9223F2635F6F106
Wickland --MB-9662BA32CFD1E006- Taken by Phawx. 1 entrants total.
Shadows Price for Our Sins -- MB-E75F070363C92639
FAIRY TALE ABOUT FATHER FROST, IVAN AND NASTYA --MB-C2D9AE73265E957D- Taken by Armoured Priest. 2 entrants total.
Freedom Fall --MB-7499140AE5C36371- Taken by Darth Kupi. 1 entrants total.
The Campaign Series: Fall Weiss --MB-C92A66D3EDFBC0E3- Taken by SSPssp. 1 entrants total.
Call of Juarez --MB-EA1541A982CCD9C2- Taken by BruteUA. 2 entrants total.
Muffin Knight -- MB-E25BE4357BE9F279
Blackbay Asylum --MB-359E630CDEFF4B30- Taken by dirtywhirlwind. 2 entrants total.
Urban Trial Freestyle --MB-8175C5E234B9EBAF- Taken by lindarasta. 1 entrants total.
Fester Mudd: Curse of the Gold - Episode 1 -- MB-57D3E17093E6FC2B
Bad Rats --
MB-9E9C91263B8072BF- Taken by KainXVIII. 3 entrants total.
Depth Hunter 2: Deep Dive #2 --MB-E1817A66C8A716EB- Taken by Mr. Luchador. 1 entrants total.
Worms Clan Wars --MB-8281AAC645EBB641- Taken by TheAutomator. 5 entrants total.
Haegemonia: Legions of Iron --MB-ADC62C7E78B4740D- Taken by fallout. 1 entrants total.
Steel & Steam --MB-11960A5EC4213F7A- Taken by Starwolf_UK. 1 entrants total.
Haegemonia: The Solon Heritage --MB-AABB89A074989D83- Taken by bluechox2. 3 entrants total.
ONE DAY for CHED --MB-FAC1A3BF61E1EF02- Taken by Darth Kupi. 2 entrants total.
Obludia --MB-8324AB6CAF1F9A8E- Taken by wetflame. 1 entrants total.
Lost Civilization -- MB-0A2F7CDF1BB08C57
Deep Eclipse: New Space Odyssey -- MB-C4472F153E82C138
Ancients of Ooga -- MB-5541C0367AFE4B20
Chip --MB-90EDFB79C0061C47- Taken by electroflame. 1 entrants total.
Cognition: An Erica Reed Thriller --MB-AF92850BA52E99A4- Taken by Cyberquake. 1 entrants total.
QBQBQBQB --MB-611EAE6C378203D2- Taken by bkw. 2 entrants total.
Soulbringer -- MB-A063B20C99A58763
nail'd --MB-F69F9A8B567DB61D- Taken by NingenJanai. 2 entrants total.
Dead Hungry Diner --MB-6D2307DB4A758AA3- Taken by sensoft04. 2 entrants total.
Shiny The Firefly -- MB-CFD91CE506F79377
Depth Hunter 2: Deep Dive -- MB-6052D87B9F8FCCB6
Castleminer Z --MB-8C1CCE6B4B765648- Taken by freshVeggie. 1 entrants total.
Elven Legacy --MB-22515DDA161798F7- Taken by SeZMehK. 3 entrants total.
S.T.A.L.K.E.R. Clear Sky --MB-48F41AB20E29ABDD- Taken by inm8num2. 6 entrants total.
Retro-Pixels Castles --MB-C245CD00A10BB278- Taken by almostheathen. 3 entrants total.
Rhiannon: Curse of the Four Branches --MB-5B80D015BA912EE7- Taken by nja. 2 entrants total.
Paranormal State -- MB-7CC55A3A5225CADE
Power Up #2 --MB-95E6169AEB660AEF- Taken by Starwolf_UK. 1 entrants total.
Blacksoul: Extended Edition --MB-A31A2E3B65FC95CC- Taken by Monooboe. 3 entrants total.
Pixel Puzzles: Japan --MB-140854F020235335- Taken by Widdly Scuds. 2 entrants total.
Dementium II HD --MB-4BF85DB1D96F9AAC- Taken by Kuroyume. 2 entrants total.
Ocean City Racing --MB-6ECBA29FC985A33B- Taken by jshackles. 1 entrants total.
Sinister City --MB-C83C7686E5ABD569- Taken by nja. 1 entrants total.
Worms Pinball --MB-C5B22003C6EDF5A4- Taken by SaveFerris. 1 entrants total.
Worms Crazy Golf --MB-C5B22003C6EDF5A4- Taken by SaveFerris. 1 entrants total.
Demonicon --MB-AF48EB7A4775A9AA- Taken by Nzyme32. 7 entrants total.
KU: Shroud of the Morrigan -- MB-A77BD0661A30F5BB
Snow Light --MB-74B2783878CF6B71- Taken by nja. 3 entrants total.
Super Killer Hornet: Resurrection --MB-079035A48A01102A- Taken by Blu(e). 1 entrants total.
Miner Wars 2081 -- MB-FD11F8C12F33EE37
Motte Island --MB-FC360EE19FAB473D- Taken by nja. 1 entrants total.
Betrayer --MB-F3BB7315B2220A46- Taken by Zeknurn. 2 entrants total.
Crash Time 2 -- MB-900E7908BAFF6F4A
Kraven Manor --MB-770CD63464D5F7E3- Taken by nja. 1 entrants total.
The Witch's Yarn --MB-8E67C7ACE6D47035- Taken by WinterDemons. 3 entrants total.
Project Temporality --MB-7C5F2636683E042E- Taken by nja. 2 entrants total.
The Culling of the Cows -- MB-33B6593BDE13069D
Big Brain Wolf --MB-1501B376D1AC5C26- Taken by nja. 2 entrants total.
Alien Breed Complete Pack --MB-9F5041D35B5984DA- Taken by iosefe. 2 entrants total.
Major Mayhem --MB-D556A60C1B0780C6- Taken by Abhor. 1 entrants total.
Chrome Spec Force -- MB-82932BF89C4C63F8
Half Minute Hero: Super Mega Neo Climax Ultimate Boy --MB-702724F523737F2C- Taken by SaveFerris. 1 entrants total.
Year Walk --MB-09B31308CB8CFE7F- Taken by n8. 3 entrants total.
Always Sometimes Monsters --MB-5863F3BCB009CD1C- Taken by ExoSoul. 1 entrants total.
Battlepaths -- MB-2F08686123B473FD
Star Ruler --MB-162209F7F7791E13- Taken by nja. 5 entrants total.
Doorways 1 & 2 -- MB-14581A538710E654
Face Noir --MB-F8F4E7DDADA3665B- Taken by NightmareTrigger. 1 entrants total.
Chompy Chomp Chomp -- MB-B157308894E93D17
Knightshift -- MB-186BBF66D3C85174
Worms Blast --MB-8281AAC645EBB641- Taken by TheAutomator. 5 entrants total.
Chaos Domain -- MB-56436CDBB2292F75
Speed Kills -- MB-5CF9BF1755456D70
Stardrive --MB-2CDFA364167D400D- Taken by BernardoOne. 4 entrants total.
Enemy Mind --MB-5762D4ED4CC65305- Taken by derExperte. 1 entrants total.
Chrome -- MB-18657E299613CCF6
Kingdom Rush --MB-B07792564471F9AF- Taken by chronomac. 1 entrants total.
Nuclear Dawn --MB-19B00B02D205B7FB- Taken by nja. 2 entrants total.
Puzzle Kingdoms --MB-4C3E6416A13606C4- Taken by XShagrath. 1 entrants total.
Doctor Who: The Adventure Games --MB-47BFFBE85D026D91- Taken by nightstorm. 2 entrants total.
Airship Dragoon --MB-58186CDCD4D85E22- Taken by Abomination. 2 entrants total.
Blackbay Asylum #2 --MB-5BCF056B28B72899- Taken by rainking187. 2 entrants total.
Selknam Defense --MB-99E754705AC6B7A3- Taken by Diedac. 3 entrants total.
Frayed Knights: The Skull of S'makh-Daon --MB-AB972E90A6E2AADD- Taken by redlacs. 1 entrants total.
Euro Truck Simulator --MB-2B37E0860D5BF543- Taken by F-Pina. 2 entrants total.
Waves --MB-302D2158EE268D38- Taken by WisK. 2 entrants total.
Nightmares From the Deep: The Cursed Heart --MB-2135ABDA9234D7D5- Taken by Abhor. 1 entrants total.
GRID 2 --MB-1EF694E50B8934E9- Taken by tioslash. 5 entrants total.
Amnesia: A Machine for Pigs --MB-5D1BFD27E55447D3- Taken by sensoft04. 8 entrants total.
S.T.A.L.K.E.R. Shadow of Chernobyl --MB-B22D81730E508BFD- Taken by gimel. 6 entrants total.
The Book of Unwritten Tales Digital Deluxe Edition --MB-D2A9E04696946E82- Taken by orthodoxy1095. 2 entrants total.
Inside The Gear --MB-1A1B8BBFF8783C39- Taken by Scipius. 3 entrants total.
Space Farmers -- MB-9E92BE5424D7BBFF
Depths of Fear :: Knossos --MB-0E23C0C676BFE32B- Taken by S1n1st3r. 2 entrants total.
HAMLET or the last game without MMO features --MB-06577FAAC2280404- Taken by Zia. 1 entrants total.
GRID --MB-B27967A3DC38EC63- Taken by 73V3N. 5 entrants total.
Tales From Space: Mutant Blobs Attack --MB-65A3C58292E39786- Taken by pahamrick. 1 entrants total.
Hyper Fighters -- MB-19F7FF7C19472065
Jazzpunk --MB-09D3011045780B31- Taken by Catshade. 8 entrants total.
OMG Zombies --MB-737888D52EDDAAD2- Taken by didamangi. 2 entrants total.
Blades of Time --MB-6F0CA537B8461031- Taken by anastef. 3 entrants total.
Eldritch --MB-4E490C4DCC576853- Taken by swx. 5 entrants total.
Sweet Lily Dreams --MB-C3E8E9CBC71968DE- Taken by texhnolyze. 1 entrants total.
Huntsman The Orphanage -- MB-B3D24C9F368A3300
Power Up -- MB-B9485F71642E5DFF
Superfrog HD --MB-4978FADABBB3BB8E- Taken by cardinalmind. 2 entrants total.
The Samaritan Paradox --MB-F3057444A28DFC87- Taken by Monooboe. 1 entrants total.
Toxic Bunny HD -- MB-EB76BE060BF63EAF
1954 Alcatraz --MB-2A429195ED6DB12F- Taken by sensoft04. 3 entrants total.
Beyond Space --MB-49F01A57F38C1230- Taken by billmcdougal. 2 entrants total.
Real Horror Stories Ultimate Edition -- MB-33837CA4440E9D83
Insanely Twisted Shadow Planet --MB-ECB389E1D1DCD979- Taken by Maxwood. 1 entrants total.
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some good stuff, some bad stuff, lots of cards stuff, lots of +1s, have at it, no restrictions, take how many you want, I dont give a fuck. Dont sleep on the list, theres some good shit in there
I couldn't resist it anymore and ordered the Das Keyboard 4 and I'm more excited than I should be for a keyboard.XD Hopefully it will be good for gaming but I mostly bought it because I have to write a thesis.
Whoa, thats awesome!
Whoa, thats awesome!
freshVeggie
Member
Holy Smokes, rhak-rhak!
Freedom = $1.05
Banned
rhak you a good man/woman/sentient creature
freshVeggie
Member
Jazzpunk, Castleminer Z and Project Temporality are really horrible, buggy, bad, despicable games and noone should enter for those...
I'm just trying to look out after my gaf-bros >_>
I'm just trying to look out after my gaf-bros >_>
jshackles
Gentlemen, we can rebuild it. We have the capability to make the world's first enhanced store. Steam will be that store. Better than it was before.
That's kind of what I was thinking as well. I think they also screwed up by making the gem value for items based solely on the game, rather than the item's rarity or market value. A lot of worthless things ended up being worth more than other items that were quite rare (like poop and weed emoticons). I can see what they were trying to do - more valuable items for Valve games means higher trading volume and thus further scarcity which raises future market values. In all it means that a game like CS:GO (which traditionally had the most number of items on the market) would become more profitable. Remember - Valve gets $0.02 of your $0.03 sale because they own the market and they are also the publisher.
The problem is that taking those items, turning them into gems, and buying a booster pack for 12 of them and selling the cards for $2.50 (which I did last night with one booster) is a good way to bring the market value of everything to come crashing down.
Andrefpvs
Member
you just badmouthed Jazzpunk, you are now banned...from my heart
seriously, wtf? unless you are going for it and are scaring people away, if thats the case I aprove of those shady tactics
Woody Invincible
Banned
Holy toledo Rhaknar.
I disagree, I think the only reason bags of gems dropped to the point they did was because of the duplication issues, and that volume is what pushed the card market down. If 1000 gems costs roughly 30 cents that scales most cards to be worth roughly 10 cents, which is about where the market has settled. Does that mean higher card prices come down faster? Yeah it does, especially for f2p games. But there would still be a floor that is actually higher than what bundles push cards to as it is. If you make it 10 times as many gems for a booster then it becomes worthless to even bother taking the time to do it.
I think their exchange rate would have been fine if not for the fact that probably a thousand times as many gems were generated last night as should have been (maybe even more than that). Most people here wouldn't have even participated if not for the market flood, I know I certainly wouldn't be sitting with over 90k gems right now and I don't think most people would be.
As for if Valve learned anything... I really doubt it. The fact that this happened at all shows they haven't learned anything from the myriad of other issues they've had in the past. The fact that they didn't shut things down the moment they began to go wrong and roll the whole thing back shows they didn't really care about the long term impact either. And most importantly, the fact that they'd try to do a significant new feature impacting the entire ecosystem the week before the biggest sale of the year is utterly insane.
also if any of those keys doesnt work, well...I dont give a fuck. Sorry
As far as I know they are all unused, most are humble and indiegala links and you can see if those are used, and the rest are bundlestars and groupees keys that I didnt give anyone. So unless I was hacked by north korea, they should work
edit: also, its multientry...like, seriously, take them or they'll just get lost in the gaf void, Ive already deleted all the emails and shit. use them for cards at least, DEM CENTS ADD UP
your shadyness just earned you a spot on my xmas list
As far as I know they are all unused, most are humble and indiegala links and you can see if those are used, and the rest are bundlestars and groupees keys that I didnt give anyone. So unless I was hacked by north korea, they should work
edit: also, its multientry...like, seriously, take them or they'll just get lost in the gaf void, Ive already deleted all the emails and shit. use them for cards at least, DEM CENTS ADD UP
your shadyness just earned you a spot on my xmas list
freshVeggie
Member
-_- guilty as charged
jshackles
Gentlemen, we can rebuild it. We have the capability to make the world's first enhanced store. Steam will be that store. Better than it was before.
I can agree on some areas, but I still think booster pack generation was too cheap - glitch or no glitch. Sure, it was ridiculous when 1,000 gems were $0.03 and that was enough to buy a booster pack. But mot of the booster packs I made last night weren't even 1,000 gems - they were in the range of 450-550 and that was for games like Final Fantasy XIII, Ragnarok Online EU (which I made the most money from), and other anime-type games. Even at 550 gems, that's 6 CS:GO backgrounds or $0.18. The only thing that does is drives the card prices down for these games and normalizes it with every other game. I suppose if that was their goal from the beginning, that's one way to succeed.
I agree that Valve probably learned nothing and you're right that introducing a feature like this a week before the sale started was ill-conceived.
YianGaruga
Banned
I disagree, I think they are learning a lot. These things are basically economic experiments which would be hard to do in the real world at this scale, so the results are hard to predict 100%. Their events are always different enough to gather more data about market behaviour once you introduce new mechanics or change variables. It's incredibly interesting imo.
This time things just went a bit too far because of the dupe glitch. I doubt things would have gotten out of hand this much otherwise.
Atraveller
Banned
its up there in the giveaway
yeah its the good kind of eurojank. I still need to finish it
Yes.
Freedom = $1.05
Banned
i hate the other 2 people that cost me year walk. i hope you guys have to poop into the mouth of a hungry lion for the rest of your lives
freshVeggie
Member
he's talking bout demonicon boy!
Phawx
Member
same
Phawx
Member
Personally I think the value gems should be tied to the value on the market and boosters should be as well.
make it as close to 1:1 as possible and you wouldn't even need to prevent people from crafting boosters from a single set over and over because they lose money if they tried to sell.
make it as close to 1:1 as possible and you wouldn't even need to prevent people from crafting boosters from a single set over and over because they lose money if they tried to sell.
Kurt Russell
Member
I think limiting people to one booster per game restricts a lot of that. But yeah, I definitely agree with your other point that setting the point values to be randomly by game made no sense, and should have taken market value into account. I mean, Defiance of all games has backgrounds worth 100 points. Defiance?
The glitch is the whole point. You can't say "things would have been fine if they didn't go wrong." Things always go wrong. And not only did they go wrong, they went wrong several times, in a few different ways. Every MMO ever has had duplication glitches, it's one of the most common issues around. It's something they should have been looking for and expecting. Hell, it's not like they've fixed all the market issues before this, it wasn't even a month ago that the market was broken for several days on items that aren't on the buy order system.
I'm not saying it wasn't interesting, because it certainly was. I found the whole thing amusing and I'm sure if I was at Valve looking at the tens of thousands of dollars they made last night, I'd probably be laughing hysterically. But that doesn't mean it wasn't a bad decision, poorly implemented, and worthy of criticism.