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STEAM | December II 2014 - A thread for people who don't like sale side posters.
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My impressions about Ittle Dew and Guacamelee; I wrote this for the 52 games 1 year challenge; speaking of Ittle Dew, get the latest Humble Bundle, it's worth it for that game alone:
Ittle Dew - 7,5/10 - 2:57 hours
Completed the game with sword and teleport rod only, using a huge shortcut, then went back to get th last item (ice wand), still have to get all the treasures and secrets. What Zelda would be if stripped away of his story, NPCs and exploration: dungeon after dungeon after dungeon; even the rare patches of overworld are littered with caves that are basically one room dungeons. The game, being a simple Zelda clone, managed to impress me: the puzzles are much harder than the usual Zelda stuff and really force you to think out of the box, especially those that grant access to the shortcuts. That's the best part of the game: you can really choose your own route, forgoing items and entire dungeons to reach the end quicker by taking a harder path. That's where the game shines (incredible artstyle and animation aside), there's an actual achievement to finish the game in under 15 minutes; the game could take around 3 hours if you take your time, more to get every collectible, but the great thing is to replay it and experiment with the shortcuts.
Guacamelee! Gold Edition [with gf] - 8/10 - around 10 hours
We've beaten Calaca at normal difficulty, and found 70% of the stuff the game has to offer (we'll surely be back for the rest). Amazing artstyle and flair, catchy music, challenging platforming, great combat, full of secret rooms: it's a nice beat 'em up with metroidvania vibes, even though the exploration is not as complex as the masterpieces of the genre. The story is nice but nothing to write home about, in fact the cutscenes are oft too long and you just wish you could smash something instead. The enemies aren't too varied and the game's not that long, however you never bore: the power ups are all great to use and all add something cool to the combat and exploration, none of them feel as an afterthought, the combat itself never tires and is well balanced with the exploration and platforming.
Ittle Dew - 7,5/10 - 2:57 hours
Completed the game with sword and teleport rod only, using a huge shortcut, then went back to get th last item (ice wand), still have to get all the treasures and secrets. What Zelda would be if stripped away of his story, NPCs and exploration: dungeon after dungeon after dungeon; even the rare patches of overworld are littered with caves that are basically one room dungeons. The game, being a simple Zelda clone, managed to impress me: the puzzles are much harder than the usual Zelda stuff and really force you to think out of the box, especially those that grant access to the shortcuts. That's the best part of the game: you can really choose your own route, forgoing items and entire dungeons to reach the end quicker by taking a harder path. That's where the game shines (incredible artstyle and animation aside), there's an actual achievement to finish the game in under 15 minutes; the game could take around 3 hours if you take your time, more to get every collectible, but the great thing is to replay it and experiment with the shortcuts.
Guacamelee! Gold Edition [with gf] - 8/10 - around 10 hours
We've beaten Calaca at normal difficulty, and found 70% of the stuff the game has to offer (we'll surely be back for the rest). Amazing artstyle and flair, catchy music, challenging platforming, great combat, full of secret rooms: it's a nice beat 'em up with metroidvania vibes, even though the exploration is not as complex as the masterpieces of the genre. The story is nice but nothing to write home about, in fact the cutscenes are oft too long and you just wish you could smash something instead. The enemies aren't too varied and the game's not that long, however you never bore: the power ups are all great to use and all add something cool to the combat and exploration, none of them feel as an afterthought, the combat itself never tires and is well balanced with the exploration and platforming.
corrosivefrost
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No, that's not the root of the issue.
That's a SYMPTOM.
The root of the issue is that Klei takes advantage of anything it can to make money, even when it means compromising on their "artistic" vision, and then continues to exploit their core fanbase for more money wherever they possibly can.
Don't Starve was put into EA. People bought it. Don't Starve got some indie cred. Fans asked about achievements for Steam. Klei says, and I'm paraphrasing here, "No. It ruins the way people play games. We're not adding them." Sony approached them, offered them truckloads of cash. Klei took the money, compromised their creative design for Don't Starve, and put out PSN versions of the game with the required trophies to be on Sony's platforms. Telling PC customers who bought your game in Early Access and said "we'd like achievements in this game, please." no because of your "creative/artistic vision" and then not taking the time to patch those in to the PC version where the original customers who are at least partially responsible for the success of Don't Starve and probably responsible for Sony's approach to get lost (still!) after you already caved elsewhere? That's morally fucked up.
Klei also told people to get lost when people asked for multiplayer and co-op in Don't Starve, because it didn't fit their vision... but now that they realized they can put a "new" version of Don't Starve out, list it at $20, give existing owners the "privilege" of 75% discount to pay to Beta test it for them and cover their "fans" by offering it "free once done" and giving out a few beta keys for free? Yeah, guess what, there's multiplayer and co-op coming to Don't Starve.
At this rate, if they found a way to make "Don't Starve Achievement Edition" and charge for it without being crucified, they'd put it out in early access tomorrow.
And Invisible, Inc. is no different. Before it even came to Steam as EA, people were asking about controller support and achievements... so much, in fact, that they added it to the FAQ. And their response in the FAQ was full of that typical smug Klei douchebaggery people seem to love for some reason.
Note the bold. This is obviously a reference to how they were opposed to achievements in Don't Starve.
Don't get me wrong -- Mark of the Ninja was FANTASTIC. And based on what I've seen of Invisible, Inc. I think it has potential to be great as well. I just really don't like Klei as a business and don't think they deserve to profit from acts of pure douchebaggery.
Early Access games are fine, if the developer really is using it as a venue for getting valuable feedback and changing the game for the better. Crypt of the Necrodancer is bloody fantastic.
It's more of an issue with exploiting your fanbase and going against your word and principles for the almighty dollar... and then pretending you never did that when people ask you about doing it again.
"Oh, well, we made a bunch of bullshit trophies and added a silly item that makes fun of trophies/achievements... so it's okay".
No. There are people out there who put 10s or 100s of hours into your game. And you taunt them, if they really wanted achievements, by creating new content for the game and adding achievements that reference them? Just... no.
There were tons of ways that Klei could've dealt with the Don't Starve multiplayer/achievement concerns/requests.
And they pretty much picked the worst way they could possibly handle it.
For the record, I own Don't Starve (though had I known about their "stance" on achievements, I probably wouldn't have grabbed it when I did) and was given it free for PS4/PSVita as well thanks to my PS+ sub.
If it were about trophies or achievements, I would just drop it because I could go play the game on those other platforms and have the most up to date and complete content-wise version. But it's not.
It's about the compromise of principles and artistic vision for money. About Klei doing whatever will make them the most money, regardless of their customer base and general principles of fairness.
Baron_Calamity
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Thats fine. i don't believe they could pull it off anyways.
ashecitism
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guys
I mean, there isn't even any source for that supposed interview....
I mean, there isn't even any source for that supposed interview....
I don't think this is real.
ashecitism
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I finished the first level in Deus Ex HR DC. Weird glitch happened where the final sequence of dialogue with Zeke and the hostage lady's mouth was moving in sync with both Jensen's and Zeke's dialogue. It creeped me out a bit.
Also for some reason I didn't get the ghost bonus at the end even though I was never spotted (another glitch?). I'll probably shelf it for now but I do like the DC version so far. The commentary is quite interesting.
Also for some reason I didn't get the ghost bonus at the end even though I was never spotted (another glitch?). I'll probably shelf it for now but I do like the DC version so far. The commentary is quite interesting.
What makes you say that?
ramoisdead
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Shadowrun Dragonfall: DC, STFU...Probably the most deals I spent during this Steam sale in one day.
This calls for a giveaway...the best giveaway I've done during this sale. Can't wait to see who wins because by the time is over, I'll be buzzed enough.
This calls for a giveaway...the best giveaway I've done during this sale. Can't wait to see who wins because by the time is over, I'll be buzzed enough.
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Naked Snake
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^ Nice giveaway!
Is it safe to login and import my wish list at isthereanydeal.com?
Is it safe to login and import my wish list at isthereanydeal.com?
morningbus
Serious Sam is a wicked gahbidge series for chowdaheads.
Hey, a friend told me that it was confirmed that Half Life 3 has been canceled or something. I'm surprised no on in here is talking about it.
Yes.
No reason to get earlier versions.
Naked Snake
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ashecitism
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Recently got a letter from a nigerian prince saying "Half-Life 3 confirmed!". Not sure who to believe now!
Bought Alan Wake, which is my 60th game so far, and my account is less than a week old...
Well, I don't think I spent more than the full price of one AAA at launch, so it should be ok.
Also, I bought the three Bioshock games from GamersGate, but turns out the first one's key isn't a Steam one.
Do you think I could get an exchange for a Steam key from 2K? I don't want to mix my games and I would rather prefer them all in one place.
Well, I don't think I spent more than the full price of one AAA at launch, so it should be ok.
Also, I bought the three Bioshock games from GamersGate, but turns out the first one's key isn't a Steam one.
Do you think I could get an exchange for a Steam key from 2K? I don't want to mix my games and I would rather prefer them all in one place.
Naked Snake
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Gotta say, tempted to buy games that I want and don't own but to give them away... haha. What sorcery is this?
Jawmuncher
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Ice is still the coolest sets
corrosivefrost
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No, it's a huge scam.
ITAD is in cahoots with JShackles in an attempt to mine data, sell it, and in the process steal your Steam account if possible. :3
Naked Snake
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notsureifserious
Yes. At best, this was deliberately misleading:
Somebody could argue on a technicality with that "quite yet", which is exactly how it comes across - phrased to mislead, with that "quite yet" thrown in as an escape clause if people tried to call them on it later.
Reposting from sales thread:
Giveaway Hanako Games Edition:
Giveaway Hanako Games Edition:
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InfiniteNine
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Long Live the Queen is pretty great so win it you nerds!
FiveElementNinja
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Yeah I loved the first one, but the modern day parts in 2 just didn't do it for me. Really turned me off to that game.
Nose Master
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1001 Spikes crashes on launch on my machine 
. Googling it, it seems like the PC version is fairly janky and gets recognized as a virus on some machines. Doesn't seem to be the problem on mine, though...
. Googling it, it seems like the PC version is fairly janky and gets recognized as a virus on some machines. Doesn't seem to be the problem on mine, though...Ya'll suck but I love you anyways.
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InfiniteNine
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I have this on my wishlist so I'll enter since I assume I saw something I liked.
PetriP-TNT
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Finished GZ on hard, got an alert because instead of CQC:ing a guard I threw Paz at him. Those controls can be a bit tricky.
freshVeggie
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even though you're kinda the best/worst astroturfing hype-machine, i gotta give credit. this is nice of you.
won't enter though. the game does nothing for me.
PS: backing up pc sucks :/
you guys recommend firefox or waterfox?
2 posts? you're now on my shitlist dice kun
Naked Snake
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You must be on Chariot's list.
Isn't the Toy Story 3 game the one with the sandbox mode a few people were raving about?
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