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[CarbonatedFalcon]

RimWorld feels like an authentic version of Dwarf Fortress for those without the time and patience to learn DF. It bridges the gap from the deep end of the pool to a more accessible spin on the Colony Management Sim sub-genre. While also maintaining the same sense of depth and possibility.

While there's building in games like RimWorld, I think it's a completely different genre/experience than traditional city builders like Anno, SimCity, and Skylines. So it might be worth being cognizant of that if you're exploring the genres. RimWorld and its peers focus on interpersonal relationships of the colonists where moods directly affect productivity.

There's also more autonomy in Colony Sims, where if your peeps aren't happy, work isn't getting done. They're also self-motivated by needs covering a full physical-emotional spectrum (fear, lust, depression, addiction, etc.). These moods will prioritize their behaviors.

Anyway, with the more recent Colony Management Sims like RimWorld, Oxygen Not Included, Prison Architect, Airport CEO, etc., I do think RimWorld is the best of the bunch when considering the balance of depth vs. accessibility. Strikes a really nice balance, imo. Oddly has a killer soundtrack to boot.

Thanks for the insight. Yeah, I suppose there is a distinct sort of sub-genre of Colony Management in the greater City-building genre. The key difference seems to be a more granular approach when it comes to individual actors in the simulation.

I definitely should check out Dwarf Fortress at some point here if I intend to create in the genre. Dwarf Fortress in particular is interesting because it first released in 2006, but looks/seems like it's something that could have been developed a decade or more earlier.

Some of the key innovative features I'd like to bring to a project (that I'm not aware of having been implemented in the genre - correct me if you know an existing example please!) are:

-Pre-game initialization/preparation: think packing your wagon in Oregon Trail
-Asynchronous Online Elements: e.g. Soulsborne message "echoes", but with the cities of other players
-Persistent State World: think Animal Crossing or an MMO, where things may decay (OMG THE WEEDS!) or otherwise change while away from the game

For the online thing, I think SimCity 2013 may have tried to implement something similar, but that game was a dismal failure, so it's certainly something that could be improved upon.

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I should probably just make a separate dedicated city-builder thread now that I've gotten invested in the genre...

 

[ModBot]

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[Aaron D.]

^^^^ Blackbay Asylum is awesome, y'all.

The humor is just so wrong. It's glorious.

Someone get on that.

 

[WarRock]

It hasn't been yanked wholesale, but it didn't receive updating pricing for Switzerland, China, India, Chile, Peru, Colombia, South Africa, Hong Kong, Taiwan, Saudi Arabia or the United Arab Emirates and is consequently no longer available on said stores.

Ah, thanks. Hopefully it gets relisted in my region then!

 

[ramoisdead]

Banned Game #583120845028 is Bundlestars Star Deal of the day.

 

[Baron_Calamity]

Banned Game #583120845028 is Bundlestars Star Deal of the day.

Why is it banned? Seems like a typical anime gaf game.

 

[madjoki]

New BundleStars Bundle.

https://www.bundlestars.com/en/bundle/hidden-gems-6-bundle

Hidden Gems 6 Bundle - C$3.09 / $2.49 / £2.29 / 2,59 €
-- Displaced
-- Race Online
-- Evolvation
-- The Onion Knights - Definitive Edition
-- Little Lords of Twilight
-- The Last Time
-- Murder In Tehran's Alleys 2016
-- Murder In Tehran's Alleys 1933
-- UnnyWorld - Founder's Pack (DLC)
-- Airship Asunder

 

[The Dear Leader]

Why is it banned? Seems like a typical anime gaf game.

Precisely

 

[TheGreenArrow]

Evil Within 2 down to $33.49 on CDkeys

 

[prudislav]

Seems like DSOGaming confirmed Denuvo in Evil Within 2 ... not thats its of any surprise , but nice to have it 100% confirmed before release as Bethesda are still hiding it on storepage/eula

 

[Deques]

Why is it banned? Seems like a typical anime gaf game.

Because of anime girls in suggestive clothing?

 

[prudislav]

Because of anime girls in suggestive clothing?

well if its the one i think it even has enemies , backgrounds and stuff stylisized as "little d*ckies, boobies,.."

 

[Father_Brain]

New BundleStars Bundle.

https://www.bundlestars.com/en/bundle/hidden-gems-6-bundle

Hidden Gems 6 Bundle - C$3.09 / $2.49 / £2.29 / 2,59 €
-- Displaced
-- Race Online
-- Evolvation
-- The Onion Knights - Definitive Edition
-- Little Lords of Twilight
-- The Last Time
-- Murder In Tehran's Alleys 2016
-- Murder In Tehran's Alleys 1933
-- UnnyWorld - Founder's Pack (DLC)
-- Airship Asunder

Defining "gems" down to the point of meaninglessness, I see.

 

[Knurek]

New BundleStars Bundle.

https://www.bundlestars.com/en/bundle/hidden-gems-6-bundle

Hidden Gems 6 Bundle - C$3.09 / $2.49 / £2.29 / 2,59 €

More like hidden "Gems".

 

[madjoki]

More like hidden "Gems".

maybe they meant germs.

 

[Ucchedavāda]

Defining "gems" down to the point of meaninglessness, I see.

More like hidden "Gems".

Maybe they mean gems like Steam Gems: Something you only use to get cards.

 

[Orakio Rob]

Thanks to an anonymous benefactor, I am giving away 30 Steam keys.

I got the Agent Awesome key, but when I tried to redeem it I realized I already owned it ^_^

Is it OK to just give away the key to another gaffer?

 

[Battlechili]

Banned Game #583120845028 is Bundlestars Star Deal of the day.

fug
I already own it and I haven't even played it that much. Too much other stuff on my plate. Now I feel like I should've waited x_x

But the call of Blue Reflection and DRV3 continue to beckon me to play them instead.

 

[dex3108]

I just downloaded Assassin's Creed Brotherhood in like 15 minutes just to do Copernicus DLC missions that Ubi added to PC version few months ago. Having good internet speed is amazing

 

[Anteater]

Cannot disagree more with you, but that's just my opinion.

*jots down name on notebook*

i should play jericho tho without the bloom

 

[Grief.exe]

Seems like DSOGaming confirmed Denuvo in Evil Within 2 ... not thats its of any surprise , but nice to have it 100% confirmed before release as Bethesda are still hiding it on storepage/eula

Reminds me how shady Bethesda was being about frame rate and resolution for the original release.

http://m.neogaf.com/showthread.php?t=907772

 

[Ascheroth]

I got the Agent Awesome key, but when I tried to redeem it I realized I already owned it ^_^

Is it OK to just give away the key to another gaffer?

Ya, just feed it to ModBot again.

 

[laserlaser]

Opinions, but I wasn't joking. Even the OST is great.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7ofdhbwlwZ0

Great track! This game is not on my radar at all, is it a collectathon? If so, I'm out.

 

[Hektor]

Seems like DSOGaming confirmed Denuvo in Evil Within 2 ... not thats its of any surprise , but nice to have it 100% confirmed before release as Bethesda are still hiding it on storepage/eula

Bethesda patching Denuvo out of Doom was an IdGames thing i suppose? As i see Prey and Dishonored 2 still have it

 

[Parsnip]

I got the Agent Awesome key, but when I tried to redeem it I realized I already owned it ^_^

Is it OK to just give away the key to another gaffer?

Just Steam things.

Just pass it along through modbot or give it directly to someone else.

 

[CecilRousso]

Bethesda patching Denuvo out of Doom was an IdGames thing i suppose? As i see Prey and Dishonored 2 still have it

Maybe Denuvo panicked when they did that, patching it out of Doom,, and gave them incentives to not do it again, when games were cracked, considering how bad publicity it's for them?

A bit of a conspiracy theory perhaps, but the continued usage of Denuvo is so dumb, that you have to go in that direction when you try to make sense of it.

Using the GOG test for my purchases nowadays. All games doesn't have to be made available on GOG, but if the game is sold with anything that works against a release there, then it's a game I buy heavily discounted (like with PES2018), at best.

 

[Tizoc]

So when daylight savings kicks in?

 

[Blu(e)]

Raiden V is out. 15% off.

 

[KainXVIII]

Is that real? 😟

 

[Lain]

Why is it banned? Seems like a typical anime gaf game.

The reasons why a game would get banned from discussions on GAF are mainly a couple: sexualization of child-like characters or outright racism inside the game and/or from the developers themselves.

We had one game (more like a game series, complete with the dev) join the list last week.

 

[Tizoc]

Is that real? 😟

Grab it off CDKeys or Humble mang.

 

[Ludens]

Another 40€ season pass from WB.

 

[Parsnip]

The reasons why a game would get banned from discussions on GAF are mainly a couple: sexualization of child-like characters or outright racism inside the game and/or from the developers themselves.

We had one game (more like a game series, complete with the dev) join the list last week.

Is there like an actual list somewhere or are we just generally supposed to magically know these things?

 

[CertifiedFP]

So I decided to pick up Warframe due to Destiny 2 impatience and people recommending it lately - And this post isn't even about that. I played it a bit on PS4 back in the day so I've got no new impressions to add yet lol.

I noticed when shooting during the tutorial that even though I'm using Mouse and Keyboard, my Xbone controller buried deep in my desk is vibrating in a way that's subtle and adds a thrill to shooting without throwing off my aim, and I'm not sure whether or not I have a genius setup here or if I should turn off vibration before this damages my desk or gets old.

 

[Chairmanchuck]

Is there like an actual list somewhere or are we just generally supposed to magically know these things?

I never truly understood why stuff like Senran Kagura, which has sexual innuendos with characters that look like kids is okay on GAF, but sexual innuendeo/risque images by the banned games are so bad.

 

[Anteater]

Is there like an actual list somewhere or are we just generally supposed to magically know these things?

well on one hand it's probably not hard to see what isn't allowed on gaf, but on the other hand we talk about dragon quest that has a composer who is apparently a nanking denier, so i guess we just have to go with our magical senses

 

[Ascheroth]

I never truly understood why stuff like Senran Kagura, which has sexual innuendos with characters that look like kids is okay on GAF, but sexual innuendeo/risque images by the banned games are so bad.

I think it's because just mentioning them by name messes up GAF's ad networks with ...dubious stuff. Or something.

 

[Hektor]

Maybe Denuvo panicked when they did that, patching it out of Doom,, and gave them incentives to not do it again, when games were cracked, considering how bad publicity it's for them?

A bit of a conspiracy theory perhaps, but the continued usage of Denuvo is so dumb, that you have to go in that direction when you try to make sense of it.

Maybe there incentive was that they get it for free, i could defintiely imagine such a deal being done

The reasons why a game would get banned from discussions on GAF are mainly a couple: sexualization of child-like characters or outright racism inside the game and/or from the developers themselves.

We had one game (more like a game series, complete with the dev) join the list last week.

I completely must've missed that

 

[Lashley]

Ruh Roh

 

[Jawmuncher]

Looks like the no family share for mordor is permanent

 

[Lain]

Is there like an actual list somewhere or are we just generally supposed to magically know these things?

I don't know if there is a list. I know of Criminal Girls, Moero Chronicle games, Huniepop 2 and that other one where you kill everyone (I can't even remember its name).
As far as I know people don't get punished for simply naming one of the banned games in passing, but they are discouraged from starting threads and doing in depth discussions about them/promoting them.

I completely must've missed that

I would have missed it too, if I wasn't going through some A Hat in Time posts which linked to the thread about the announcement of Huniepop 2, which was locked and the modbot post said the game and the dev aren't welcome on GAF any longer.

 

[Lashley]

Ruh Roh

install bar hasn't moved at all

for fucks sake

 

[Phinor]

Looks like the no family share for mordor is permanent

I love how many people call it Mordor when there's no Mordor at all in the name. Shows how badly they failed with naming the sequel. The first game was a Mordor game to just about everyone and that's the only word they dropped when naming the sequel.

 

[Madventure]

In case anyone was curious about the scale of the new expansion Ashes of Malmouth for Grim Dawn coming out tomorrow!

I put it behind a spoiler just because it contains some stuff people might consider spoilery I guess

Spoiler

 

[LurkerPrime]

So the new Geforce drivers are no good? Hrm.

I only updated last time to prepare for Total Warhammer 2. Guess I'll wait a while again.

I love how many people call it Mordor when there's no Mordor at all in the name. Shows how badly they failed with naming the sequel. The first game was a Mordor game to just about everyone and that's the only word they dropped when naming the sequel.

Wardor, though.

They knew.

 

[Parsnip]

I would have missed it too, if I wasn't going through some A Hat in Time posts which linked to the thread about the announcement of Huniepop 2, which was locked and the modbot post said the game and the dev aren't welcome on GAF any longer.

Oh so that's the new one. I have a pretty good idea why it and the dev are on the list now, but the first game wasn't when it came out.

But that's enough about that I guess.

 

[Rockin' Ranger]

Looks like the no family share for mordor is permanent

Sharing the game would destroy the integrity of the loot boxes.

 

[Uzzy]

I love how many people call it Mordor when there's no Mordor at all in the name. Shows how badly they failed with naming the sequel. The first game was a Mordor game to just about everyone and that's the only word they dropped when naming the sequel.

I mean, there's no Lord of the Rings in their Lord of the Rings game, so the lack of Mordor is the least of their worries.

 

[ramoisdead]

5 minutes until the Humble Loot Box Bundle.

 

[Anno]

In case anyone was curious about the scale of the new expansion Ashes of Malmouth for Grim Dawn coming out tomorrow!

I put it behind a spoiler just because it contains some stuff people might consider spoilery I guess

Spoiler

Any idea if info about the expansion items/classes etc. is available anywhere? I always like browsing through new uniques.