Yeah 3d tv was niche until it wasn't.Doesn't matter how long. For your no glasses thing? Unreasonable ask and timeline.
I think most peoples would have their jaw drop with a wide FOV and slim headset and a couple of iterations. Already in the prototype phase it's heading in the right direction.
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Most peoples would be fine with ski mask / glasses.
It's niche until it isn't. Stopping releasing products and research is a good way to miss the train.
It's absolutely part of the future, now it's which company have on the roadmap to achieve it, while releasing products along the way of course to have an userbase and fund the R&D of future headsets.
Steam frame and steam controller likely being announced next week
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dgrdsv
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Cause it's low end h/w.
RDNA3 28 "CUs" and 8GBs of VRAM @ 110W is a version of Navi 33, something between Radeon 7400 and 7600 perf wise.
This RTX 5050 level of non-RT performance, couple of times worse than that with RT.
The machine itself will likely be able to output 4K@120 but it won't be able to run modern games in such mode.
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The Mad Draklor
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That asterisk though... Valve probably still has Vietnam flashbacks from people sniffing the Steam Deck vent, lol.
thicc_girls_are_teh_best
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VR is a pass for me
In for the controller 100%
Need to know specs of the steam box. The specs on the site don't tell me much. But the RDNA3 means no FSR 4 support right ? ( forgot the 9070xt is RDNA 3 or 4 )
Isn't PS5 Pro getting FSR4 support? And that's an RDNA3-based GPU design.
Such being the case, Steam Machine should also support FSR4, in some capacity at least.
I don't see the appeal.
I would have to be desperate to use the touchpad controller to play pc games on my tv.
VR presumably high end? Ok...but does it expand VR any or just replace the headsets of a few diehards? ( it's actually a Quest 3 level device from the previews I'm reading.)
Last they tried STeambox before. Who is this aimed at? Never undocked Switch owners? And/or cloud gaming early adopters?
I would have to be desperate to use the touchpad controller to play pc games on my tv.
VR presumably high end? Ok...but does it expand VR any or just replace the headsets of a few diehards? ( it's actually a Quest 3 level device from the previews I'm reading.)
Last they tried STeambox before. Who is this aimed at? Never undocked Switch owners? And/or cloud gaming early adopters?
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Critical Hit
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Does this mean Steam OS is almost released?
Calverz
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The touchpad is there to make using it in a tv easy. For example if you use other software to play games from other launchers. It's very useful having those trackpads.
dgrdsv
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PS5Pro is RDNA4 based but its ML h/w seem to be rather unique since it's closer to RDNA3 in formats support but run ML math more or less like RDNA4 does it.
In other words there's a chance that this RDNA3 GPU won't be fast enough to pull of FSR4 INT8 with performance which will give it an overall perf boost.
No? They are still using AMD h/w so (mostly) the same drivers and optimizations apply here too.
For a complete release they'd need to support way more than 2 CPUs and 2 GPUs from AMD.
The Mad Draklor
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Doubtful. The new Steam Machine uses a semi-custom chip like the Steam Deck. Optimizing for 2 hardware configurations is much easier than optimizing for the wide plethora of configurations in the desktop space.
Critical Hit
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is it a Half-Life 2 or 3?
It's Arch based - you can install nvidia drivers, but I don't know how good they're for gaming (it's ok for non-gaming)
//DEVIL//
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I don't recall the PS5 pro getting FSR4 support. only an updated version of PSSR4 that has some elements of the FSR4 . But how it plays out remains to be seen.
in theory as per the leaked FSR4 DLL on RDNA3, it can in theory support FSR4 but with some performance cost. For weak systems like these, I don't see this as a very good thing
The Mad Draklor
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There is unofficial FSR4 support for RDNA3 because AMD accidentally let the source code out. Youtube channels like Hardware Unboxed, Daniel Owen, and Ancient Gameplay tested FSR4 on RDNA3 and it runs well even though there is a bigger performance penalty than RDNA4.
dgrdsv
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Nvidia Linux drivers are generally worse than their Windows drivers.
But it's more than Nvidia drivers which you'll need to install. Supporting all PC h/w and its configurations and making sure that the OS is working well on it and games work well on all these permutations is not a simple task.
Critical Hit
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They have more resources for that than Bazzite or CachyOS.
//DEVIL//
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I know I said that in my other post. but those devices kinda need all the power they can get. limiting its power isn't really great option. However FSR 4 is so superior to FSR 3 is not even close.
the sad part is the workaround is pain to do every time and for every game. and if the game updated you kinda have to do it again. not to mention some artifacts might pop up.
Mercador
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I have a gaming PC with a 4070 so my only usage for this would be to moonlight stream on my first floor TV. Currently, I have a XSX that do 4K120 with HDMI 2.1 port so I'm fine, I just wonder if my XSX will support a Steam Controller, that's what I highly doubt. So perhaps I'll sell the XSX and get that instead.
BlueManifest
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No one's considered external gpu for more power for this yet have they
Edit: nm looks like no usb4 unless some other way to do it
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Gameplay Gods Bless
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That's a very powerful PC. The 9070XT is over 2X faster than the 7600 the steam machine has and the 9070xt is even faster at RT and has native FSR4 support. That means if the steam machine is getting 60fps your PC will be getting more than 120fps.
I wish the steam machine had a 9060 instead even a really crippled one but that would have been more expensive of course.
Crayon
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I've never believed in future proofing, but in this case, I'm betting that stuff could get more expensive in the next few years when I had planned to upgrade to something that would be mid at the time. That, and there may actually be something about future proof now because baselines are going to be held low for a long time. I think the bottom baseline will get no higher than a PS5 until almost ps7 is out.
Gameplay Gods Bless
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I just bought a Ryzen 9600X as well bought some ram and now that same ram is way more expensive due to the AI boom. It's crazy, I lucked out.
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