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STEAM | January 2015 - Steam GOTY results: Delayed

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Chariot

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STRAFE® looks amazing, thanks for posting the STRAFE® Kickstarter, Seuss. I especially like that dead and discarded things in STRAFE® don't vanish I miss that in games that are are not STRAFE®. I am looking forward to STRAFE® now, even if I most likely won't support the STRAFE® Kickstarter.
 
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pahamrick

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Chariot said:
STRAFE® looks amazing, thanks for posting the STRAFE® Kickstarter, Seuss. I especially like that dead and discarded things in STRAFE® don't vanish I miss that in games that are are not STRAFE®. I am looking forward to STRAFE® now, even if I most likely won't support the STRAFE® Kickstarter.
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For some reason this post combined with your pic struck me funny and gave me a good laugh that I needed.

Thank you.
 
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Freedom = $1.05 said:
2K needs to go over to Rockstar and get them to put out a RDR HD remaster so that it finally comes out on PC goddamnit. Read Dead Remastered, there, you have a cute and marketable name for it. take it from there.
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Rockstar wears the pants in that relationship. 2k/Take Two isn't telling them to do anything. Also, that ship has sailed. Rockstar is determine to treat the pc like crap. I don't want a RDR from them anymore. I don't even want GTA V anymore either. If I want it, I'll play it on the consoles.
 
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MadGear

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Accoun said:
Toxikk will not give free review copies.
http://forum.toxikk.com/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=956



Kinda... interesitng?
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Well, going by their explanation most of the requests are laughable attempts at getting a free copy of the game.

And besides, if you make a living out of reviews, let's plays and what not it really shouldn't hurt to spend 15-20$ on a game that you plan to monetize on.
Material of that game will be out the moment the game releases by people that have a genuine interest in the game and if its good it will spread the word even without dedicated Let's Players. I support their decision as i can see nothing wrong with it.
I don't know if i would trust anyones review on a arena shooter anyway unless they actually are really passionate about these games. Seeing how gamespot reacted to the initial Toxikk trailer, most of the reviewers are probably not.
 
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Baron_Calamity

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PunishedSnake said:
Not like crap, like a cash bag. They already did fucktons of money on console, PC is only to do much money with a minimal effort...usually. Can't speak for GTAV, the fact it comes with at least two DRM layers after the nightmare GTAIV still is (just check R* forum and you'll have an idea...people can't redeeming their serials, securom problems, Win 8.1 problems, R* social club problems...I can't play this title after years because I can't register on R* social thing) is an added value. Maybe the port will be good, I don't know, but DRM are bad not only on release, but expecially years later, when support will drop in a way or another.
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That too. multiple levels of DRM is crazy. I I keep forgetting the issues I am having with the GTA IV expansion.
 
jshackles

jshackles

Gentlemen, we can rebuild it. We have the capability to make the world's first enhanced store. Steam will be that store. Better than it was before.
GAF, this is my life now.

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It'd be sad if this wasn't the 1,000th time it's happened. The only reason I didn't respond to this particular fellow (which I'm usually very good at) is that it arrived the day after Christmas meaning it was one of about 100 similar emails I received between Dec 24 - Dec 26. Seems like everyone is still getting new Chromebooks for Christmas.

Oh, and I've been getting death threats from people who are upset about the bug in the latest version of Firefox. So that's been great too.
 
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Baron_Calamity

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jshackles said:
GAF, this is my life now.



It'd be sad if this wasn't the 1,000th time it's happened. The only reason I didn't respond to this particular fellow (which I'm usually very good at) is that it arrived the day after Christmas meaning it was one of about 100 similar emails I received between Dec 24 - Dec 26. Seems like everyone is still getting new Chromebooks for Christmas.

Oh, and I've been getting death threats from people who are upset about the bug in the latest version of Firefox. So that's been great too.
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Wow. I'm sorry this is happening to you. Yet its kinda funny.
 
Andrefpvs

Andrefpvs

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DocSeuss said:
This Kickstarter is awesome, and the Steam joke made me laugh.
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Holy crap

jshackles said:
GAF, this is my life now.



It'd be sad if this wasn't the 1,000th time it's happened. The only reason I didn't respond to this particular fellow (which I'm usually very good at) is that it arrived the day after Christmas meaning it was one of about 100 similar emails I received between Dec 24 - Dec 26. Seems like everyone is still getting new Chromebooks for Christmas.

Oh, and I've been getting death threats from people who are upset about the bug in the latest version of Firefox. So that's been great too.
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Hooooly crap. The hell is wrong with people.
 
Nabs

Nabs

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DocSeuss said:
This Kickstarter is awesome, and the Steam joke made me laugh.
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What the fuck. That trailer is amazing. Good luck beating this, 2015.

Charging 25 for the game tier is a weird choice. I'm also not feeling the idea of another game with auto-generated levels. I miss level design.
 
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Deques

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jshackles said:
GAF, this is my life now.



It'd be sad if this wasn't the 1,000th time it's happened. The only reason I didn't respond to this particular fellow (which I'm usually very good at) is that it arrived the day after Christmas meaning it was one of about 100 similar emails I received between Dec 24 - Dec 26. Seems like everyone is still getting new Chromebooks for Christmas.

Oh, and I've been getting death threats from people who are upset about the bug in the latest version of Firefox. So that's been great too.
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Looks like you got a nice life :)
 
jshackles

jshackles

Gentlemen, we can rebuild it. We have the capability to make the world's first enhanced store. Steam will be that store. Better than it was before.
Deques said:
Looks like you got a nice life :)
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Over the last two years that I've been putting out updates for Enhanced Steam, I've realized why nobody at Valve wants to work the support jobs.
 
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MUnited83

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MadGear said:
Well, going by their explanation most of the requests are laughable attempts at getting a free copy of the game.

And besides, if you make a living out of reviews, let's plays and what not it really shouldn't hurt to spend 15-20$ on a game that you plan to monetize on.
Material of that game will be out the moment the game releases by people that have a genuine interest in the game and if its good it will spread the word even without dedicated Let's Players. I support their decision as i can see nothing wrong with it.
I don't know if i would trust anyones review on a arena shooter anyway unless they actually are really passionate about these games. Seeing how gamespot reacted to the initial Toxikk trailer, most of the reviewers are probably not.
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There are people that review as a hobby and not as a job or monetize it at all though.
And again, limiting the publicity of multiplayer-only 15$ indie game is not really a smart decision.


Also, seems DocSeuss posted there. His post reflects pretty well my feelings about this.
Hi. I'm a freelancer for some fairly large gaming sites. In the interest of being helpful and seeing Toxikk succeed, I thought I'd offer some insight from this side of things. I'm just out of surgery and I really want Toxikk to succeed, but I'm also keenly aware of some stuff I think you might want to know.

1) Unless it's a site as big as IGN, Kotaku, etc, it almost guaranteed does not have the budget to buy every game that comes its way. EDIT: Heck, as I understand it, even those sites don't have the budget to buy every game that comes their way.

2) Gaming journalism doesn't make a lot of money, especially for smaller sites. As a result, they need hits. Hits come from the biggest games. So they tend to focus on those. Not everyone does, but quite a few do.

3) Big sites tend to avoid PC-centric games (like, y'know, arena shooters) for just this reason. And they're the guys that really help games take off.

EDIT: 4) YouTubers tend to focus on games they can make good videos out of. Some, like TB, seem to review anything of interest to PC gamers, which is awesome, but plenty do stuff that gives them good scarecams, bugs, and stuff. Not really good games, but lame ones that make for silly antics.

In other words, any hurdles in anyone's way will discourage them from covering your game. This goes for all developers: if journalists and youtuber's won't cover your game, your game is going to have an insanely hard time selling well.

A site has to pay staff, buy gear, buy games (I spent about $2,000 on video games last year out of pocket, in order to continue doing my job, and I'm super poor), and then prioritize the stuff that makes them the most money. I get it--you need sales, and I also get that there are people who pretend to own YT channels with lots of subscribers and lie about it. But gaming is expensive for solo operations, and it's way more expensive for gaming websites. Literally the only guys out there with the kind of budget to spend on games are YouTubers like AngryJoe and Pewdiepie, or websites like IGN and Eurogamer.

The deck's already stacked against you. Not offering review copies is gonna harm you big time. Please, please consider giving out review copies to people who request them (as long as, of course, you verify that they're real YouTubers and not scammers). I want Toxikk to succeed. UT2K4 is STILL my most-played video game of all time. Arena shooters are my jam, even though I'm terrible at them.

I've been through the whole "we're the successor to the arena shooter, we're going to bring it back" thing before, and it hasn't worked out well. The "if you're a real fan of the genre, you'll buy our game" thing has been tried with plenty of games like, say, Nexuiz, and that didn't turn out well.

You've got a lot to prove, and I hope you make it, but it's not as simple as "if you really want it, you can afford it."

It's a symbiotic relationship you've got with the press: you need coverage, they need hits. You both have to do your part to make this work out; you can't just make them work for it.

Best of luck.
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Stallion Free

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Nabs said:
What the fuck. That trailer is amazing. Good luck beating this, 2015.

Charging 25 for the game tier is a weird choice. I'm also not feeling the idea of another game with auto-generated levels. I miss level design.
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Man, how did I miss that. Talking about not understanding why people love Quake and Doom.
 
Terra_Ex

Terra_Ex

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jshackles said:
GAF, this is my life now.



It'd be sad if this wasn't the 1,000th time it's happened. The only reason I didn't respond to this particular fellow (which I'm usually very good at) is that it arrived the day after Christmas meaning it was one of about 100 similar emails I received between Dec 24 - Dec 26. Seems like everyone is still getting new Chromebooks for Christmas.

Oh, and I've been getting death threats from people who are upset about the bug in the latest version of Firefox. So that's been great too.
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I think when you're releasing free software, after a certain amount of time you just have to ignore shit like this. Some people are just dumb, they don't/won't read the readme, they won't do any research or actively try to use their mental faculties to reach a logical conclusion. Provide what support you can to people asking new questions, but when its just this same spammy, misinformed crap, there comes a point where you just have to draw the line.
 
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Zeknurn

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jshackles said:
GAF, this is my life now.



It'd be sad if this wasn't the 1,000th time it's happened. The only reason I didn't respond to this particular fellow (which I'm usually very good at) is that it arrived the day after Christmas meaning it was one of about 100 similar emails I received between Dec 24 - Dec 26. Seems like everyone is still getting new Chromebooks for Christmas.

Oh, and I've been getting death threats from people who are upset about the bug in the latest version of Firefox. So that's been great too.
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You should add a filter for email containing the word "chromebook" that sends them directly to the trash. They're a lost cause anyway.


Speaking of which. Any chance you will release Enhanced Steam for Microsoft "Spartan" if the rumoured support for Chrome extensions is true? I'm tempted to drop Opera for it.
 
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pahamrick

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PunishedSnake said:
Yes I know is sp, but you need to manage people to get them alive...it sounds like Dead Rising when you need to escort people in safe house, I was really bad on doing that. Soon or later I'll give it a try for sure, but when I saw "This is like DayZ, only SP", my interest dropped like a bomb.
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Ah, I gotcha. If you enjoy zombie + survival you'd like it. I had the most fun ignoring the escort stuff whenever possible and just scavenging for stuff and building up and upgrading bases.
 
jshackles

jshackles

Gentlemen, we can rebuild it. We have the capability to make the world's first enhanced store. Steam will be that store. Better than it was before.
Terra_Ex said:
I think when you're releasing free software, after a certain amount of time you just have to ignore shit like this. Some people are just dumb, they don't/won't read the readme, they won't do any research or actively try to use their mental faculties to reach a logical conclusion. Provide what support you can to people asking new questions, but when its just this same spammy, misinformed crap, there comes a point where you just have to draw the line.
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Yes, definitely so. Like I said, I ignored the first email because it was the same misinformed crap that about a hundred other Christmas Chromebookers sent within a 3 day timespan. In this instance I sent him a link to the Steam support website which (knowing how terrible it is) is kind of my own little in-joke to the guy.

I forward the death threats on to the proper authorities, because they're able to occasionally help with these sorts of things. It helps that I know a lot of them personally and professionally so they're always happy to help follow up on things like this.
 
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LurkerPrime

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Terra_Ex said:
I think when you're releasing free software, after a certain amount of time you just have to ignore shit like this. Some people are just dumb, they don't/won't read the readme, they won't do any research or actively try to use their mental faculties to reach a logical conclusion. Provide what support you can to people asking new questions, but when its just this same spammy, misinformed crap, there comes a point where you just have to draw the line.
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Then you'll suddenly be getting negative reviews from these ...folk... because of "bad customer service" or "broken software," etc.

Broken decides are tough to handle.
 
Ban Puncher

Ban Puncher

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jshackles said:
GAF, this is my life now.



It'd be sad if this wasn't the 1,000th time it's happened. The only reason I didn't respond to this particular fellow (which I'm usually very good at) is that it arrived the day after Christmas meaning it was one of about 100 similar emails I received between Dec 24 - Dec 26. Seems like everyone is still getting new Chromebooks for Christmas.

Oh, and I've been getting death threats from people who are upset about the bug in the latest version of Firefox. So that's been great too.
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Dear Sir,

I would like to apply for the position of Enhanced Steam customer support. I can type 'LOL GET FUCKED' at an efficient rate of 24 times a minute. I can also bring to your team my large portfolio of dismissive and/or offensive animated gifs to be used if the written word is deemed too complicated for selected sentient potatoes to coherently grasp.

Kind Regards,

Dr. M. Puncher
 
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baterism

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YianGaruga said:
I know there are people like me who wonder who actually prints their receipts on Steam. It seems a reddit user was brave enough and this is what happened



The bug has apperently been known since August.

Just Valve things~
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That's one modern contemporary avant-garde art shit bug. How can it be that messed up? I'm not a programmer, but how hard can it be.

jshackles said:
GAF, this is my life now.



It'd be sad if this wasn't the 1,000th time it's happened. The only reason I didn't respond to this particular fellow (which I'm usually very good at) is that it arrived the day after Christmas meaning it was one of about 100 similar emails I received between Dec 24 - Dec 26. Seems like everyone is still getting new Chromebooks for Christmas.

Oh, and I've been getting death threats from people who are upset about the bug in the latest version of Firefox. So that's been great too.
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Face palm at Dayz on Chromebook. I'm not sure what to say , but stay strong my friend.

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Still no news on Way of Samurai 4?
I have been playing modded Civ V lately, holeyshet it was amazing.
 
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pahamrick

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jshackles said:
Yes, definitely so. Like I said, I ignored the first email because it was the same misinformed crap that about a hundred other Christmas Chromebookers sent within a 3 day timespan. In this instance I sent him a link to the Steam support website which (knowing how terrible it is) is kind of my own little in-joke to the guy.

I forward the death threats on to the proper authorities, because they're able to occasionally help with these sorts of things. It helps that I know a lot of them personally and professionally so they're always happy to help follow up on things like this.
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It's people like that who make working retail or support such a terrible job. No desire to do any actual research, read requirements, or anything. Then if you try to actually help them, they argue with and insult you.

My sympathies are with you.
 
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BruteUA

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Man Puncher said:
Dear Sir,

I would like to apply for the position of Enhanced Steam customer support. I can type 'LOL GET FUCKED' at an efficient rate of 24 times a minute. I can also bring to your team my large portfolio of offensive animated gifs to be used if the written word is deemed too complicated for selected sentient potatoes to coherently grasp.

Kind Regards,

Dr. M. Puncher
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I made this same offer a little while back as well, and it still stands. Between the two of us I'm sure we could clear out the queue pretty quickly. I'd also be happy to follow up on any death threats originating from the US east coast.
 
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Dr Dogg

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So in the teeny bit of time I had with RE-RE-Resident Evil and trying to get native resolution up and running it ends up looking hideous, let alone 5120x2880. Regardless of ini faffing it certainly doesn't look like it's rendering at what's specified (counting is a tad hard seeing as next to nothing is rendered but in about the only straight line I could find on Chris I got 9 clear steps on a 10 high image cropped from 2560x1440 so in the 1290ish region).

Anyone had a proper play around?

jshackles said:
Oh, and I've been getting death threats from people who are upset about the bug in the latest version of Firefox. So that's been great too.
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We live in a glorious age where communication is immediate and so easy that contact between two or more individuals can take place from almost anywhere across the entire globe. And what do some chose to do with this ability? Threaten, harass, abuse and make other people's lives difficult.
 
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Annubis

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jshackles said:
GAF, this is my life now.



It'd be sad if this wasn't the 1,000th time it's happened. The only reason I didn't respond to this particular fellow (which I'm usually very good at) is that it arrived the day after Christmas meaning it was one of about 100 similar emails I received between Dec 24 - Dec 26. Seems like everyone is still getting new Chromebooks for Christmas.

Oh, and I've been getting death threats from people who are upset about the bug in the latest version of Firefox. So that's been great too.
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See, if people could be stupid but at least send their complaints to the right place, that'd be swell.

Reminds me of a legal case here where the criminal was free to do whatever until the tribunals. People were protesting everywhere about how the suspect needed to be jailed. The judge replied "If people knew how the legal system works, they would shut up" referring to the innocent until proven guilty.
People still protested after...
 
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