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STEAM | January 2016 - Out of cash, out of cache
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I don't know if you noticed, but most of the people in RE5 aren't in their right mind.
why did the guy write his passwords down on pieces of paper and hide them around the mansion
why is there nothing but a single urinal in this bathroom
where do they poop and where do they wash their hands, why is there toilet paper right next to the urinal when they don't need to wipe their butt, do they poop in the urinal?
whyy
Every game now has "Source" listed under Price/Description and Share box. So you know if keys were from publisher/developer directly or from authorized resseller.
Some things.. just aren't meant to be answered.
as someone that lives in a country that has numbers like 98% piracy rate, i understand it's as much of a culture thing as anything else and so i'd like people to enjoy what i make even if they didn't pay for it
if u can't afford my game by all means just pirate it. if u can afford it and rather save yourself a couple bucks well that kinda sucks for me but hey, what can you do.
i make games cos i enjoy doing it, money is obviously important but in that regard i'm waaaaaaaaaay more scared of steam being a shovelware-inviting cesspit than pirates
it's the biggest reason i'm so mad at how bad their curator and discovery tools are, steam could help you out finding the right game for you so much better but instead is just shoving you five nights at freddies a billion times cos there's a ton of those games
HP_Wuvcraft
Banned
Am I right? I know i'm right.
Hall's dance moves in that scene.
accel
Member
I am in the same boat regarding living in a place where piracy is the norm, not exception, FWIW, and I think you are feeling that way because the vast majority of your sales - same as mine - come from other countries which have it easier with piracy. Imagine what it would have been if the whole world was like your (or mine) country. I sure don't want to even imagine it.
Regardless of your stance on piracy people shouldn't post about it on a website that has this in the ToS, that's just stupid.
that's kind of a pointless exercise, isn't it?
piracy is a real thing and while it's really big in some regions instead of demonizing pirates why not do some introspect and try to see what's going on and why this people aren't buying your games
sometimes it's a business model thing, sometimes it's a price thing (where i live steam doesn't have regional pricing and imports are heavily taxed) and sometimes it's a cultural thing and people are not even used to buying games (again from my own experience we barely even have game stores where to buy games).
people aren't evil because they pirate games, they're just either cheap, poor, ignorant or uninterested in what you're offering them. you can't just put drm in front of them and expect good results, you gotta study each of those issues and come up with solutions
in the meantime, what's there for you to gain demonizing them
sure, why risk getting banned over nothing
The Red Wizard
Member
I don't see the problem in doing so with Dragon's Dogma, if you've got it pre-ordered because the reality is that pirates are getting a better experience than paying customers. It would be a different issue if Capcom unlocked the game early but the review embargo is up on 14th January so changing the unlock date would affect that, at the very least, which would be unfair to those waiting for reviews. It would even go against the best point of having review embargos i.e. reviewers aren't rushing through the game to post their review first.
accel
Member
I agree that piracy is a real thing and that frequently you are better served by just ignoring it and working on the product, but that's because piracy rates are what they are, in some countries higher, but in others lower (in essence, you get enough money from the latter and so can forfeit the former). If piracy rates go higher (and god help us all if piracy becomes acceptable in the West), equations will change, and it will make more sense to spend effort on protection measures rather than features. This current state of things that we have is a precious thing, it can get much worse very easily, so...
I am also all for looking into why people pirate, but after you have a trial version, a free reduced functionality version, open and free manuals and education materials and whatnot, you know, even vaguely-valid reasons to pirate dry out. What's left isn't pretty.
BorntoPlay
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Quote anyone who do any of those thing here??, i think some of you are overreacting about some "witty remarks"... Anyway, i'm off to sleep...
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The Red Wizard
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I really enjoyed it as well, especially when I put the difficulty level to extreme. I'm still working my way through Rise Against the Empire but Twilight of the Republic was fantastic.
OK
I already played this game.. wink wink nudge nudge.,.. is a great port...
Haunted
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It's balanced like an F2P game where they want you to buy stat boosts and consumables with real money.
Speeding up stat gain by a huge amount (x4 or more) would create a better flowing, less frustrating game. That means they've fucked up the balancing somewhere along the way. They have a solid 4-5 hours of content here, a cool concept with well crafted pixel art. Finishing the game the way it's balanced now would easily take more than 10-12 hours.
That's unacceptable repetition and completely fucked up, grindy balancing.
i think this is a bad read, people buy stuff because it's easier than pirating. pirating involves going into shady sites with porn ads and viruses and all that crap. it involves installing scary exes and cracks and whatnot. you have to go get your console hacked and lose your warranty. buying a pirated game has you looking through folders of games wondering if they thing you just bought will even work and if the guy that sold it to you when it doesn't is gonna be there when you ask for a change
etc.
buying your game legal (generally) saves you that hassle. that's the benefit vs the cost of some/more money.
if the person you're trying to sell a game to is not interested in that you're never gonna get that person's money. if the person you're trying to sell a game to is interested in that but can't afford it, just sell your games cheaper. there's regional pricing for a reason and in the digital store age there's no shipping costs for people to worry about
that doomsday scenario you're thinking of, there's no reason for things to get to that unless ppl start failing to deliver on that (like arkham city on pc, terrible regional pricing like in australia, making the game progressively worse like mgs5, attaching terrible drm, etc.) and if that's the case it's clearly that you just didn't hold your part of the benefit vs cost equation
not really
i bought arkham city for a friend on steam not long ago cos my friend didn't even know how to buy a game. my friend's a smart person, a lawyer, etc. etc.
and ppl don't want to play the free version with annoying ads, cmon
TheAutomator
Banned
Well said.
xcom2 is pretty cheap on nuuvem and afaik it's region free (do your research tho, i'm not 100% sure) if you can get someone to buy it for you
edition that comes with the season pass is 30 usd, it's really nice
Chairmanchuck
Member
Yeah. Before China had regional pricing, you had to pay the Dollarprice. Far too much for normal Chinese.
And their culture/piracy culture is actually also endorsed by publishers there (regarding movies/music). Tencent e.g. is paying WB, Sony etc. so they can offer music and movies for free on their "Netflix"-services.
Majukun
Member
it's a lose battle trying to "cure" piracy..either with drm or with whatever practice you want to try to convice those who pirate to stop doing so.
of course there are some guys who pirate only because of economic reasons and/or because they are early teenagers with little money at their disposal and even little constraints,and when they get a steam account or just grow up they stop...but there is that part that just doesn't care and just wants shit for free,and will continue to wanna get shit for free even if you make them pay one buck for it.
of course there are some guys who pirate only because of economic reasons and/or because they are early teenagers with little money at their disposal and even little constraints,and when they get a steam account or just grow up they stop...but there is that part that just doesn't care and just wants shit for free,and will continue to wanna get shit for free even if you make them pay one buck for it.
texhnolyze
Banned
I'm an ex-pirate as well.
Thank god that f2p mmorpg is a thing, they help me big time to avoid piracy.
pretty much
it's very important to be pragmatic about it and realize that those people will never be a lost sale for you
so forget about them, if you care about making money with your game stop chasing the people that will never pay you for it
haha that kind of sounded like one of those "i don't drink, i swear! well, except when i'm at parties, or with friends! but only then!"
Atraveller
Banned
Sometimes pirates are so incredibly cheap that it is infuriating.
I went to 3DM's site when the scene group announced it was on the verge of cracking Dragon Age: Inquisition. In the announcement page's comment section, I saw excitement for finally being able to play the pirated game, vile and mind-boggling bashing on people who bought the game, and all kinds of mental gymnastics to justify piracy. If a person could afford a PC to play DA:I, then he could definitely afford the game, and then as an information savvy person who frequents a scene group's site, getting a decent discounted price was a piece of cake.
The Red Wizard
Member
Do you guys think that I'll be at a huge disadvantage in Metal Gear Online if I haven't played TPP?
what can you do, some ppl suck, pirates or not
Atraveller
Banned
And antagonizing is all they deserve.
Chairmanchuck
Member
Isnt 3DM a chinese group? The thing is that Origin doesnt have chinese prices, so if its chinese pirating it, I wouldnt be mad, if one publisher doesnt care about one userbase (400RMB is still much compared to lets say 200).
Thats why I am happy that Steam has RMB now. You can see more chinese are using it (and kinda acting like russians and only write in chinese...) Cyka Blyat.
Atraveller
Banned
Like I said before, if one could afford a PC that runs DA:I (which needed a middle or middle-high end card at least), one could afforded it full price, and there's also third party key sellers, and Mexican Origin...
Dice
Pokémon Parentage Conspiracy Theorist
Because with Umbrella everything goes to shit.
texhnolyze
Banned
Yes, and that's the most disgusting thing about piracy.
People invest so much money on a PC but spending a dime on video games never cross their mind.
personally i couldn't care less
Beat The Banner Saga,
, I started getting the hang of the more in-depth tactics of the combat system by the end, but there was one game mechanic that I didn't really quite get, and searching on the internet for tips, I was disappointed by the info I got...
Apparently, in a game where you lead a caravan, keeping the size of the caravan high is fucking pointless. Okay sure, having more fighters and Varl apparently makes the battles easier, but clansmen? Just more mouths to feed. Not even a hi-score at the end.
Like, being a good caravan leader is just a roleplaying choice rather than a gameplay mechanic. Might as well starve them, and then when you have a really small group left, start getting those resources to build up morale for the inexpensive remainder.
Really disappointing.
maaaan, what a fucking downer ending T_T
Apparently, in a game where you lead a caravan, keeping the size of the caravan high is fucking pointless. Okay sure, having more fighters and Varl apparently makes the battles easier, but clansmen? Just more mouths to feed. Not even a hi-score at the end.
Like, being a good caravan leader is just a roleplaying choice rather than a gameplay mechanic. Might as well starve them, and then when you have a really small group left, start getting those resources to build up morale for the inexpensive remainder.
Really disappointing.
yo guys, have you heard about this cool game that's on steam?
Anybody here played The Sad Story of Emmeline Burns a free
VN.
Isn't it strange that Sekai Project publishes a free game? what's the point of having publisher for a free game?
Anybody here played The Sad Story of Emmeline Burns a free
yuri
Isn't it strange that Sekai Project publishes a free game? what's the point of having publisher for a free game?
Adry9
Member
Long time without posting here :O Just sent my votes for the SteamGAF GOTY list:
1. The Witcher III: Wild Hunt ; One of the best RPGs I've ever played. The world is huge, interesting and alive. Secondary missions might be where the game shines the most.
2. Her Story ; One of the most innovative narrative experiences I've ever had.
3. Metal Gear Solid V: The Phantom Pain ; A bit let down by the story but the actual gameplay is amazingly polished.
4. Life Is Strange ; A step forward in Telltale's formula.
5. The Beginner's Guide ; The game made me realise how bad we treat artists sometimes, we should be more grateful that they share their creations with us.
(No, I haven't played Undertale)
1. The Witcher III: Wild Hunt ; One of the best RPGs I've ever played. The world is huge, interesting and alive. Secondary missions might be where the game shines the most.
2. Her Story ; One of the most innovative narrative experiences I've ever had.
3. Metal Gear Solid V: The Phantom Pain ; A bit let down by the story but the actual gameplay is amazingly polished.
4. Life Is Strange ; A step forward in Telltale's formula.
5. The Beginner's Guide ; The game made me realise how bad we treat artists sometimes, we should be more grateful that they share their creations with us.
(No, I haven't played Undertale)
i found a lot of things about that game to be pretty questionable
the leveling system for instance. having to be handling out killing blows to your party members to keep them leveled made the game really tedious since some characters are way more capable at chipping away health rather than dealing a whole lot of dmg right away
or how turns work in that you don't get more turns the more enemies you kill, so it's always in your best interest to leave a bunch of ppl hanging around with 1 hp/dmg so they take up the turns of their higher hp/dmg characters
lots of little annoyances like that
i look forward to the banner saga 2 but there better be some serious overhauls of these systems or i won't bother
Seems like the developer has other games on Steam via the same publisher, so it's likely an effort to promote the other titles.
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