In the end it is his decision, he is developer. People still have choice to get DRM Free version at least.
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STEAM | January 2016 - Out of cash, out of cache
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In the end it is his decision, he is developer. People still have choice to get DRM Free version at least.
Wok
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Kurt Russell
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When we played it with the Alienware guys I was awful at the game but kept hitting them with the stick. Afterwards, the devs said that they'd look into adding a Kurt Russell character but it seems that it was just a joke
Jawmuncher
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That is true, still I don't like it. Just feels like a big fuck you to fans.
If I was actually interested in the game, that would bug me.
So where's the limit? Unless you mean he's limiting the ability for people to get two copies of his game for £30?
http://www.1up.com/news/jonathon-blow-responds-braid-pricing
The Witness pricing thing feels like a deja-vu.
The Witness pricing thing feels like a deja-vu.
Wok
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The way he sees it, he is not afraid of piracy due to releasing a DRM-free copy of the game, however he is afraid of "lost sales" in the sense that some people pay to play the game and the money never goes to the dev. It is more a matter of accountability of the number of games sold.
Jawmuncher
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Yes I was specifically talking about how purchasing on humble does not allow you both copies. Which is in itself a limit. Since for indies a big part of humble is getting both Steam and DRM from their store when you purchase.
Seems like he's mixing the two to me though. I can't imagine Key resellers are going to be huge.
Hell if someone want's a deal, they can get it from one of the cheaper regions. Which is still technically losing money as well.
Since the buyer won't be buying at their exchange rate.
dave is ok
aztek is ok
Jonathan Blow spent a ton of his own money making this game. I'm fine with it being 40 dollars and I hope it does really well at that price
jshackles
Gentlemen, we can rebuild it. We have the capability to make the world's first enhanced store. Steam will be that store. Better than it was before.
And I get that, and it makes sense. I see people reselling Humble Steam stuff all the time that obviously still have access to the DRM free version so they're essentially splitting the cost of the game with someone that doesn't care about having a DRM free copy and/or having it on Steam.
I guess what surprises me the most is that this is something new. The bigger (aka greedier) devs have been doing the same thing for a while on sites like Humble simply by not offering DRM free versions, where 1 purchase = 1 key anyway.
That's like making a huge drama out of nothing.
Jawmuncher
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I mean I don't necessarily, as I said I have no intentions on buying the game.
I just don't like it. I'm not gonna go make a thread on the matter or anything. More so surprised people are just alright with it, since the logic is kind of flawed.
But I can also go torrent the DRM free version someone else will upload to the Internet...
(Not saying I would, but you know, at some point, it's a trust system)
Jawmuncher
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Forgot all about that. If he want's to limit lost purchases he should block that too.
I also find the logic a bit strange, but why badmouth him by saying stuff like "he doesn't trust his fans" or "it's a fuck you to fans"?
You also think that about every dev who sells stuff on humble store and don't provide the option for a DRM-free copy at all?
Leafhopper
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I was no fan of Braid either really.
I...actually laughed at that.
i will find you , and i will kill you!
Wok
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You can.
Jawmuncher
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Most launches that are simultaneous on the services include both on humble.
Those were just my assumptions since as I said the logic seems flawed. If he want's to come out with some actual data I would like to see it. As was just mentioned if the game is playable through family share there alone is essentially some more "lost sales". Majority of indie releases include both, and especially from such a big name as blow it seems odd to limit. Not saying people won't necessarily sell keys having bought on Humble, but it just seems like a needless restriction. I don't see the witness even at it's price being a bomba and forcing him onto the street.
The majority of indie games include it. The AAA pubs are the one's that don't usually. Most of the time DRM free isn't included because it was never made.
Dusk Golem
A 21st Century Rockefeller
Is Steam acting weird for anyone else either? For a while the Steam Launcher wouldn't connect me to Steam, RE0 is definitely out of pre-order stage but it won't give me any option but Pre-Load after restarting a few times, Idle Master will not connect to Steam.
Probably just something going on like maintenance or something but thought I should ask.
Probably just something going on like maintenance or something but thought I should ask.
Dsyndrome
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Same, can't unpack the preload. Lost all my categories too. Seems more than just Tuesday to me.
Edit: Categories back, still exnay on the unpacking. Worked fine for DDDA.
it's not a huge issue or anything and i understand why he did it but it is kind of lame to not have the humble DRM free + steam key option. its been my store of choice for a while now because of that. i hope it doesn't set a precedent for other indies.
at the end of the day it doesnt really matter because the steam version is probably DRM free, and it will end up in a humble bundle in a couple years anyway and we'll all get our backup copies then too
at the end of the day it doesnt really matter because the steam version is probably DRM free, and it will end up in a humble bundle in a couple years anyway and we'll all get our backup copies then too
UcchedavÄda
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He explicitly stated that he was trying to limit key re-sellers, so why would he go after family sharing? By its very nature, that is a different and much more limited ecosystem.
man, the witness not even having a preorder price is kinda rough, but hey, it's the witness, gonna buy it anyways
guess i'll help malaria and buy it on humble bundle or something lol
guess i'll help malaria and buy it on humble bundle or something lol
i'm super late to this, but she has a more recent example in literally the first second of the video and tomb raider tight shorts are iconic so idk what's so wrong about it
Jawmuncher
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Yeah , I seem to come off as extremely negative but this is basically where I stand on the matter. More or less just surprised most here just seem to shrug their shoulders at it, and not question it at least a little bit.
Ucchedavāda;192689355 said:
I was just being facetious
UcchedavÄda
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Ah, sorry for being dense.
Jawmuncher
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I need this as an alt costume for Chun Li.
The wait for SFV is killing me. I even spotted a copy of The Legend of Chun Li in a shop today and considered it for a brief second. Someone please put me in a coma for the next 27 days..
You got the cop costume already, you can't be too greedy.
Still plan on renting SFV for the story mode, and buying it when Juri is release. By then the Base game with the DLC characters should be 60 together somewhere.
UcchedavÄda
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And thank the gods for that!
honestly i hadn't even watched the video before making the above post
this is probably the least inflammatory tropes vs women video ever and probably one of the easiest to get behind of (heh)
it's got many examples of bad butts and good butts for females and males and it's not even asking much out of developers or anything
this is probably the least inflammatory tropes vs women video ever and probably one of the easiest to get behind of (heh)
it's got many examples of bad butts and good butts for females and males and it's not even asking much out of developers or anything
AHA-Lambda
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I hate it when there's a choice heavy, route heavy VN out there and nobody thought to provide any flowchart for it.
To Be or Not To Be is even worse. There's a flowchart hidden in the resource files, but it's at such a low res, you can't read the actual choices. I mean, check for yourself:
Who does shit like that?
To Be or Not To Be is even worse. There's a flowchart hidden in the resource files, but it's at such a low res, you can't read the actual choices. I mean, check for yourself:
Who does shit like that?
Crimsonclaw111
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REmaster owners: 175,613 ± 9,172
Dragon's Dogma owners: 136,364 ± 8,083
A good choice was made by Capcom.
Dragon's Dogma owners: 136,364 ± 8,083
A good choice was made by Capcom.
That's odd, all games (many) I bought on HB store (not in a bundle), have DRM free versions, I always check and I never even once sold a steam key I got from HB, so I kinda am with munchie on this one, I don't like it. You don't get two copies as some people seem to assume, you get one game, a key for steam for and DRM free (the same game) which you can't sell, so it's not two copies, it's one and if some people sell the steam key, which I find very hard to believe, I mean that many sell, it's still totally a trust matter as with any DRM free sale.
Now again big publishers of "big" mainstream games never offer DRM free versions at all, anywhere, so if someone wants to take example from them, they can.
Breaking news!
I'm confident that I'll be able to get everything ready in just a few short hours after the voting ends this year. Unlike last year where it was months before we got results, I plan on revealing our GOTY at:
(that's 7PM PST on Thursday the 21st! Just three short hours after voting ends!)
Just like in years past, I'll be counting down the top 10 spots Casey Kasem style right here on this thread before posting the total final results in a new thread on the gaming side. There will be about 5-7 minutes between each reveal for people to discuss and speculate. We had a lot of fun doing this last year, so you won't want to miss it.
you are the best, jshackles, I was just asking today when we will get results. I'll try to be there for countdown, it's fun
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Jawmuncher
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Will be interesting to see numbers go up. REmake hasn't even had a sale yet more than 25%.
Nabs
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morningbus
Serious Sam is a wicked gahbidge series for chowdaheads.
texhnolyze
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Just realized that the Darkest Dungeon got a front page huge banner spot today.
Dragon's Dogma didn't even get it.
Dragon's Dogma didn't even get it.
Dragon1893
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RE0 looks really good, both the backgrounds and the characters hold up really well.
now that you mention it... it didn't, I wonder why
Yeah, notes, yeah.
Look man, here's the complete flowchart. Scaled down a bit.
This is pretty much LLTQ material, wouldn't you agree?
I wish the game would just let me chose the route visually. :\
PandaPedinte
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Yeah, notes, yeah.
Look man, here's the complete flowchart. Scaled down a bit.
This is pretty much LLTQ material, wouldn't you agree?
I wish the game would just let me chose the route visually. :
Thats impressive. What is the game like?
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