Gipsy Danger
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I thought you knew what the game was though? Hence why it's not worth your money.
It's a puzzle game, I feel like that part is pretty clear.
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STEAM | January 2016 - Out of cash, out of cache
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I thought you knew what the game was though? Hence why it's not worth your money.
It's a puzzle game, I feel like that part is pretty clear.
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I don't know the national anthem thing
Oooooh Canada, ooooh Canada..!
No seriously I really have no idea, but I seem to remember some oooo'ing or some such, so I figure I'm close enough.
billmcdougal
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I'm lttp, currently playing Talos.
I really like it so far, but it's starting to feel pretty repetitive. I worry that it will grow stale over its run time. And The Witness is significantly longer? Does that not seem too long for a puzzle game?
I really like it so far, but it's starting to feel pretty repetitive. I worry that it will grow stale over its run time. And The Witness is significantly longer? Does that not seem too long for a puzzle game?
Well I hold Gears 1-3 in high regard as to their coop play but I felt RE6, with it's extension to so many mechanics and having Chris as your CQC character and Piers as the long range support character worked surprisingly well.
Please have SLI bits for The Division, please have SLI bits for The Division, please have SLI bits for The Division.
I really don't want to go pulling apart PCs at the mo.
Those games are definitely intended for the die hards, the people who live and breathe puzzle games more or less. I mean I've played RE4-6 so many times because third-person shooters are my particular thing.
The last puzzle game I really put time into was... Crush on the PSP?
Yes, from what I've seen it looked like first person walking sim-puzzle game. Even if it isn't walking sim, everything else still stands.
Also as clear that I never in my life paid that much for puzzle game, any type, nor I was asked to pay that much in most of cases.
What are you arguing about, actually? That it's worth 40€? I already said many times, that for me it isn't, at this point, I said why too.
I'm glad for you that you spent your money well in this case, though.
edited: we all should upvote Aselia, btw
Gipsy Danger
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Not if the puzzles are interesting. Game length means nothing since a game can either fill that length with quality content or garbage filler. From what I've heard it sounds like The Witness is the former.
Expecting a game that's been in development for around 6-7 years on a budget of about $6mil to cost $10-20 is... Ridiculous. It's a far-fetched notion that sounds like what you'd hear console gamers shout when saying "indies don't count!", really.
Hero Prinny
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how are they not all fighters?
Depends how varied the content is, both in terms of gameplay mechanics, world interaction and both visual & audio design wise.
Any game over two hours is probably too long if it's just the same bit repeated over and over.
So you're a masochist.
Don't worry, I won't judge.
Gipsy Danger
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I hate Smash as much as the next guy. But it's still a fighting game. I haven't seen enough of Pokken to know but from what I hear it plays like the Naruto Ninja Storm games which aren't fighting games. But as I say, I don't know enough.
CecilRousso
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I think both games are around 20h to beat them.
The Witness has quite a lot of extra puzzles and materials, that can last up to 4 times that, but are not needed to beat it.
For three euros I'll poop in an A3-sized letter and ship it to you.
I guarantee you'll be more entertained and have a far less bland, variation-less experience.
And also my poop has a much better narrative.
Remember back when a developer kit cost around $40.000?
Those were the days, eh?
It makes sense that we see games on way more platforms nowadays; smaller budget affairs can finally afford to get onto consoles, and the huge resurgence in the PC market (which, to be honest, was always viable, just not big enough for a lot of publishers to care) has managed to gain the attention of even the most idiotic, moronic, incompetent, daft and out-of-touch publishers. It's a win-win all around.
going by this logic we should gladly pay for FF15 about 140, no?
I should bookmark this post for that time
VikasNarula
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RotTR unlocked on which region ?
Tizoc
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Is it me or are 'console game sales figure' GAF kinda weird to comprehend?
Like if a game is on Steam, and then manages to make 100,000+ owners through sales over the course of a year, I mean that'd be a good thing right?
But far as consoles goes, 'legs' aren't exactly a positive thng?
Like if a game is on Steam, and then manages to make 100,000+ owners through sales over the course of a year, I mean that'd be a good thing right?
But far as consoles goes, 'legs' aren't exactly a positive thng?
None, just the drivers are out, not the game.
Jawmuncher
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I could have sworn weapons were tied to the dpad in RE6.
Chairmanchuck
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Everything must sell at least 1m or it wont be a success.
Even if the publisher says they were overwhelmed when a game sold 100.000, they must be lying!
Wok
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Talos is ultra-repetitive but gets new mechanics along the game, and smart puzzles near the end.
Time to check if they fixed whatever they broke. The last drivers that don't immediately get stuck at low clockrates when starting certain games* with my GTX 970 are 358.50 from early October.
*List of certain games include all Unreal engine games, most Unity games... on the other hand all frostbite games work fine so cheers for that EA.
I'm just saying it makes no logical sense in any way whatsoever to expect a game in development for over half a decade and with a several-million budget to cost the same as something made in half a year on a budget of some tens of thousands is ridiculous. I'm not in any way whatsoever saying that budget + man hours = price, but neither should the price be dictated by it being "indie". That would mean every Valve game since HL1 should've been 10-20 bucks.
Again, not a reasonable logic just because a studio is independent. The quality (and quantity, but with the aforementioned quality taking precedence) should be all that matters; not some silly label.
You don't need to look up gameplay vídeos to know this. Literally all you have to do os read anything about it at all. Its like saying "oh the new call of duty is a walking sim and that can't be disproven because I didn't see a video!"
I mean, if you ignore very basic economics? FF15 sales projection is much higher than The Witness, so they can afford to sell it for 60. Thats very simple.
https://steamdb.info/sub/90029/depots/
Which has a fair few depot labelled 'Mac' much like the SteamPlay title Tomb Raider...
https://steamdb.info/app/203160/depots/
Now that's not exactly surprising these days but did a Mac version ever get announced? I seem to only recall PC and PS4 versions being mentioned.
Oooooorr as madjoki points out this is because TR13 is bundled with it.
shortsFortallPeople
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Fair warning for colorblind folks: some people are having major issues with certain puzzles in The Witness. You might need help getting through them since there isn't a built-in colorblind mode to help you out.
Jawmuncher
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With as along as it took the witness to Coke out, seems like there are still plenty of issues.
but I was told that CoD is a camping sim, that would be opposite to walking, no?
let's not kid ourselves, no matter how much FF15 sells, no matter price, it can't pay for itself, that's not possible anymore.
derExperte
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Sounds like the issue the last hotfix-driver fixed.
Yup. Blow can cause issues.
Ban Puncher
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Leafhopper
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Do you remember any of the words in those games? ._.
SF4's in the grand scheme of things aren't that bad really.
Lol.
Even joking this post kinda hurts.
And I don't even care about the Witness.
Jawmuncher
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Praise the Sun!
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As for SF4 achievements, they just got old after awhile. A good chunk are beat arcade mode a ton of times, now on hard, now with no continues. I want to see a bit more variety.
Get your grafix nerd hat on with the RotTR PC Tech Features video
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Dfr04Sk03U
Although that's a pretty awful aniso example and no where near a steep enough angle to show it off properly. I've got a much better one some where in my screenies. Tessellation example is flipping night a bloody day though.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Dfr04Sk03U
Although that's a pretty awful aniso example and no where near a steep enough angle to show it off properly. I've got a much better one some where in my screenies. Tessellation example is flipping night a bloody day though.
Hero Prinny
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Ooh helldiver is the free ps+ game for next month. I cant tell you how many times i was just 2 steps away from buying it on either pc or ps. Only reason i kept hesitating was cause i dont have people to play it with but now that wont be a problem
You use left and right to scroll through a list. You can rearrange them so that your preferred guns are closer to one another, but there's no way to drop/store weapons you aren't using. Whereas in RE5 (and I believe Rev1/2), you could assign weapons/items to left, right, up, and down.
Jawmuncher
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Japan knows what's upOh yeah, Jawmuncher alert
This game has a dinosaur.
Hoping the RE6 HD is a improved version like DMC4 SE. That hopefully has improvements that come to PC.
That's because it includes Tomb Raider as preorder bonus.
Earlier I was thinking that I might flip sacrifice tesselation for performance if need be, but looking at that video, I don't know if I can anymore. Damn it.
They could also entirely omit the Jake campaign, and whenever he's supposed to be on screen, all the other characters could be asking "Where's Jake"?
freshVeggie
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Campaign is done! But the "Showcases" are untouched. There are more than a dozen and each focuses on a certain tactic or vehicle (night ops, helicopter, scuba ops etc.).
There is no story line between these showcases but instead each is a short story consisting of various tasks.
Haha, when I was playing I wished I had Bird of Prey playing in the background
Pretty much my opinion. Value is subjective. Nothing wrong with Witness being 40$ at all. There are plenty who will find it well worth it.
Happy birthday to both of you.
Jawmuncher
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I like Jake though. Really curious where 7 will go. Jake seems like a mainstay of some kind. But Capcom loves to go all over the place.
Here's a good texture filtering performance example.
Just look at the state of that map when then camera is at a low angle!
That is a very good point.
As always I tend to ignore any tweaks and performance guides or articles other than Nvidia's as they never go into enough detail to know how each setting effect performance across a broad range of hardware. Always best to wait until I've got the game in my own hands and then go tweaking for a couple of hours and see what compromises I'm going to have to make.
Just look at the state of that map when then camera is at a low angle!
That is a very good point.
As always I tend to ignore any tweaks and performance guides or articles other than Nvidia's as they never go into enough detail to know how each setting effect performance across a broad range of hardware. Always best to wait until I've got the game in my own hands and then go tweaking for a couple of hours and see what compromises I'm going to have to make.
Yeah, he wasn't bad. His interactions with Chris though... MGS4 had more coherent drama.
I just hope Capcom learned its lesson and takes cues from the previous RE's and the Rev games. Keep the third-person action, just make sure they get the basics right- combat, controls, pacing, upgrades, etc. I don't care so much if the story is shit if everything else is in place, although RE6 has put the bar pretty low.
Kurt Russell
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I got it on ps4/vita because it wouldn't be coming to PC, then it came to PC and now it's gonna be on PS+.
Sony really loves me.
In RE7 Umbrella (now officially Umbrella Galactic Entreprises) created alien zombies and you play as Chris's daughter looking for a treatment for alcoholism for his father, meanwhile giant whales will invade Manhattan and here Capcom will introduce a new character, Ahab, who wants catch the white whale alive in order to sell him microtransactions.
Let me tell you about little puzzle game called Picross 3D.
Or about another little puzzle game called Pic Pic.
Or about another another little puzzle game called Everyday Genius: Squarelogic.
All three take at least 100 hours to complete, not counting the optional puzzles/DLCs
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