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STEAM | January 2016 - Out of cash, out of cache
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Kaleinc
Banned
Google this: AMD Leaked keys.
And now this development with Dirt Rally which is several weeks out of early access.
oipic
Member
It's not PC-specific, but the Gamers With Jobs forum is home to possibly the least toxic community that I'm aware of.
Edit: re-reading that, it could come across as damning with faint praise, but that wasn't my intention - genuinely a good crowd over there, but it's nowhere near as active as GAF.
texhnolyze
Banned
Why are you excluding the mmos?
It's not like those games are f2p, you know. People still paid for those, they're owners.
Good numbers nevertheless.
Unreal Championship 1 is literally just Unreal Tournament 2003 built for X-box. Unreal Tournament 2004 superceeded that. Just get UT2004. The only missing thing would be bombing run which I think mods brought back.
I dunno on Unreal Championship 2. That's more a third person hack and slash at times.
But this is exactly what I want from the Championship series.
not really pc centric but I used to read somethingawful, it's pretty decent, but I didn't want to pay for a membership
honestly i'm not sure if you want a board that's focused on one particular platform
Ban Puncher
Member
I'd pay a one off $10 fee like SA for GAF if it meant no ads.
It would keep the riff raff/angsty teens/poors out too.
I would spend so much money if there was a 'Change Another Users Tag' option like SA forums too.
I can't wait for the full release of darkest dungeon. I've started it a few times but I generally try to stay away from early access, even when I believe in it enough to buy it (like grim dawn. Owned that since it was first released on steam. Only just now started playing).
I just wish there was a save and quit option even when you are in a dungeon. My playtime is sporatic at times and it would be super helpful.
I just wish there was a save and quit option even when you are in a dungeon. My playtime is sporatic at times and it would be super helpful.
YianGaruga
Banned
I'm now the proud owner of more than a thousand Steam games. What do I get GAF?
Bad Rats
At the same time though I wish I could express my genuine concern that a game I like didn't do too well on PC without being jumped on like I'm a console fanboy trying to downplay Steam as has happened. I hate to "both sides" this but while its the console fanboys fault for muddying those people with genuine concern with those who just want to trash the platform I don't find the PC side of these debates entirely innocent either.
I'm happy with banning these threads as its just a slanging match with no room for any proper discussion.
I already have that one.
The Hermit
Member
oh, thats a LOT of keys of Dirt 3. I didnt knew that.
Chairmanchuck
Member
The thing is most of the time its console-fans that downplay sales, even though the publishers are totally happy with the sales. But even if the publishers says "is a great success. We will bring more titles to Steam", there will be people saying "But it sold xxxxxx on the Vita in japan in its first month. It cant be a success" or "We have to see how many titles they put on Steam. Better wait. These sales are not good at all."
People totally overestimate porting costs nowadays. They think you have to put millions into it to port a game, while its actually less than 100.000-150.000$ (sources: old informants from the publishing company I worked for for a while).
EdwardTivrusky
Member
This is something I would like to know as well, what is the cost of porting to pc. I don't think its as cheap as you say because if that were the case every game developer would port there games to pc without second thought.
Damn, you already own the shit games i have in my inventory to "gift" people!
What can I say. I got a lot of junk.
Sales threads are a mistake. They're nothing but trash.
There isn't really anything to discuss. It either sold well or it didn't, and even then the benchmark for "well" is set by the publisher so unless it's an edge case we can't even know if it's successful or not.
I think that all game specific news/salesdata/questions/whatever should be posted on that games OT. What's the point of an OT if not to contain all of the discussion for that game?
There isn't really anything to discuss. It either sold well or it didn't, and even then the benchmark for "well" is set by the publisher so unless it's an edge case we can't even know if it's successful or not.
I think that all game specific news/salesdata/questions/whatever should be posted on that games OT. What's the point of an OT if not to contain all of the discussion for that game?
it's g2a i think
Quick Mustard
Member
So, I've pinned some games to Windows 10 Start Menu, but I want to cahnge the image of the tile.
Is there anyway to do this without installing any additional apps?
Is there anyway to do this without installing any additional apps?
Yet more spare Square Enix keys:
ModBot said:Instructions for participants:
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The Hermit
Member
I think by now every gaffer own the last remnant, its probably the most given key
Chairmanchuck
Member
But they do. At least western people.
It really is not that expensive, if the code is written well and the team has some experience (at least according to what I heard).
Its usually japanese publishers that still have some kind of "japanesy" mindset. Afaik some publishers of smaller japanese games here have to convince the devs that Steam is big in the west and they have to explain what Steam is.
And there was one GAF-insider that said that VF5 was almost completely ported to PC, but some higher up at Sega said that they wouldnt want to release it on PC because there is no audience (even though the port was almost complete). Whether thats true I dont know.
It just seems japanese publishers have a problem porting their game to Steam.
Quick Mustard
Member
Can I make them like the Tiles in the Steam program or am I limited to just icons?
Crimsonclaw111
Member
My favorite thing about sales threads is goalpost moving.
Khrae
Member
I just fiddled with it when I saw your original post, if you mean can you get a big banner tile? I don't think so, you'll probably need an app.
This route only lets you select icon files, so if you can create an icon from the relevant image it may work, though sizing will be an issue.
It depends on each game complexity and size, on their engine, on the quality and availability of original assets, and so on. The amount of variables involved could potentially make a smaller game port to cost more than an AAA one.
To the sheer development expenses, you'd have to budget for testing and QA, marketing and whatnot.
So yeah, we can say that not porting games to Steam publishers are leaving money on the table, but if their estimate revenue is shit, should they risk investing a crapload of cash into something that could or could not turn out to be a sleeper hit or an evergreen game?
Can a thread lurker-prowler get an invite to the Steam GAF group too?
http://steamcommunity.com/id/biv2k/
edit: Thank you very much
http://steamcommunity.com/id/biv2k/
edit: Thank you very much
still not nearly enough, until all play it
I wonder could we talk SE into updating it, it sold well enough before it was bundled left and right, they could add cards and cheevos at least, to give it a new life so to speak.
Updating textures or an engine is probably too much to ask for.
Chairmanchuck
Member
They usually do. And thats why I personally dont understand why not every game is directly ported to PC from japanese studios. Western studios do it all the time. Its directly developed for PC, PS4 and Xbox One.
Japanese devs/publishers choose to develop it first for consoles and then, if they want, port it to PC.
Can a thread lurker-prowler get an invite to the Steam GAF group too?
http://steamcommunity.com/id/biv2k/
edit: Thank you very much
Were about to invite you but someone else already did. Instead I accidentally invited you, to a Team Fortress 2 group. Sorry about that.
I believe that since older consoles did not have the same architecture with PC(PS3 having the stupid cell and x360 having power pc?) they might still think that it needs extra work?
Developers except first party studios should port all their games for PC to get extra money..The only practice i kinda understand (even though i dont like it) is timed exclusivity.
The new console gen is essentially weak-ass PCs anyways
Developers except first party studios should port all their games for PC to get extra money..The only practice i kinda understand (even though i dont like it) is timed exclusivity.
The new console gen is essentially weak-ass PCs anyways
fluffydelusions
Member
We have a new steam group going? I'll take an invite if I'm not already in there lol
http://steamcommunity.com/id/plbelanger
http://steamcommunity.com/id/plbelanger
Chairmanchuck
Member
I am not sure whether my idea might be true, but it could be that they just want to use japanese people to port their games.
While I worked for a publisher (for DVDs though), the arrogance and pride of their products was really high during negotiations. I can think that maybe the same is true for games. They dont want a foreign company to "touch their code", so they want to do it by themselves, but actually japanese devs cant port well.
Thats just a theory of mine.
Crimsonclaw111
Member
No, it's the same Steam group and you're already a member of it.
Hellblade getting simultaneous release on PC & PS4 in 2016
shortsFortallPeople
Banned
Who was it that swore max payne 3 was one of the best playing TPSes ever?
Because after a couple of hours in, i'm just not seeing it. It's fine, i'm liking the game in spite of its nihilistic writing and kinda meh story (not to say that the MP games are excellently written before this but at least the campy noir stuff engaged me) but there's nothing here that really stands out except for shooting grenades in the air and some admittedly pretty neat rag doll deaths.
Because after a couple of hours in, i'm just not seeing it. It's fine, i'm liking the game in spite of its nihilistic writing and kinda meh story (not to say that the MP games are excellently written before this but at least the campy noir stuff engaged me) but there's nothing here that really stands out except for shooting grenades in the air and some admittedly pretty neat rag doll deaths.
I've never had an issue with the adapter. Also, it's still in stock at The Microsoft Store so I highly doubt there's a newer version shipping already.
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