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[Dr Dogg]

really odd situation

it uses AMD's TressFX 3.0 and NVIDIA says it will have VXAO (some new AO tech they have)

To be honest anything would be better than the AO Crystal Dynamics used in the Xbone release (well apart from Far Cry 3's wacky take on AO). Something, something Ambient Obsucance I think they called it. Not particularly accurate and wasn't very tight to the geometry that there was a visible halo on most objects (there's a chair in the title screen where it was massively obvious). Pretty stable though and no flickering or clipping that you can normally see in cheaper implementations used in some console titles but that's not been a problem on PC for a while with various methods available.

Isn't VXAO what they used in that Moon Landing lighting demo they put out when Maxwell released? HBAO+ Ultra in Syndicate is currently the muts nuts as far as AO implementations go from what I've seen first hand so should be nice to get something new to play with.

 

[GERGiEV]

I really am, it's cheaper on Nuuvem but still too much for my wallet

Yeah, too expensive for me too, but I will buy it the second it goes on sale

 

[Parsnip]

To be honest anything would be better than the AO Crystal Dynamics used in the Xbone release (well apart from Far Cry 3's wacky take on AO). Something, something Ambient Obsucance I think they called it. Not particularly accurate and wasn't very tight to the geometry that there was a visible halo on most objects (there's a chair in the title screen where it was massively obvious). Pretty stable though and no flickering or clipping that you can normally see in cheaper implementations used in some console titles but that's not been a problem on PC for a while with various methods available.

Isn't VXAO what they used in that Moon Landing lighting demo they put out when Maxwell released? HBAO+ Ultra in Syndicate is currently the muts nuts as far as AO implementations go from what I've seen first hand so should be nice to get something new to play with.

I'm very curious about it.

Kezen posted these on one of the threads. he didn't specify an exact source for them though. Some conference in 2011 I guess.

 

[Soulflarz]

Can someone please port FF XII to PC
Like legally
Square
Please

I'm sitting here playing it on my ps2.
Companies like them are why I keep my PS2 plugged in at all times.

 

[Kanokare]

Can someone please port FF XII to PC
Like legally
Square
Please

I'm sitting here playing it on my ps2.
Companies like them are why I keep my PS2 plugged in at all times.

You're complaining about a company who has brought pretty much most of their FF numbered games to the PC and blaming them?

 

[Uzzy]

Too many feels.

 

[Leafhopper]

Too many feels.

So sad.

 

[Dio Brando]

Too many feels.

damn, i was already getting over this, but all the feels came again

 

[tuxfool]

Isn't VXAO what they used in that Moon Landing lighting demo they put out when Maxwell released? HBAO+ Ultra in Syndicate is currently the muts nuts as far as AO implementations go from what I've seen first hand so should be nice to get something new to play with.

No, that is VXGI. Which is voxel based real time Global Illumination.

If we had that then we wouldn't need any AO at all.

 

[Bowlie]

Too many feels.

;c

 

[Hero Prinny]

Too many feels.

dumb cheap ending that doesn't obey its own rules of how time works.


still really fun journey though

 

[Dragon1893]

After someone posted an interview with the creators of Shadow Hearts I got the urge to replay them. The first 2 are the best rpgs on PS2 that don't have SMT in the name.
Shame that the first game only runs well in software mode but at least it's almost flawless.
Anyone here play them?

 

[MUnited83]

Guys


get on this


like


right now


0.59$
It's really good, especially for such a low price, and it has a great sense of humour and a neat artstyle and it also takes a couple of hours to finish. I recommend it to everyone but especially if you enjoyed Undertale. Get.on.this.train.

 

[InfiniteNine]

Guys


get on this


like


right now


0.59$
It's really good, especially for such a low price, and it has a great sense of humour and a neat artstyle and it also takes a couple of hours to finish. I recommend it to everyone but especially if you enjoyed Undertale. Get.on.this.train.

Okay but if I don't like it I'm never taking your suggestions again.

 

[Dragon1893]

Can someone please port FF XII to PC
Like legally
Square
Please

I'm sitting here playing it on my ps2.
Companies like them are why I keep my PS2 plugged in at all times.

I imported the zodiac edition, applied the fan translation patch and played it in glorious HD on PCSX2. It was great.

 

[Tektonic]

whenever i click on a link from neogaf, i get an api.viglink url and:

Parameter 'out' is required

... its frustrating

 

[Bowlie]

Guys


get on this


like


right now


0.59$
It's really good, especially for such a low price, and it has a great sense of humour and a neat artstyle and it also takes a couple of hours to finish. I recommend it to everyone but especially if you enjoyed Undertale. Get.on.this.train.

I'm gonna trust you on that. Buying it.

 

[Nabs]

whenever i click on a link from neogaf, i get an api.viglink url and:

Parameter 'out' is required

... its frustrating

Search for viglink and find the opt out page.

 

[PLASTICA-MAN]

I'm very curious about it.

Kezen posted these on one of the threads. he didn't specify an exact source for them though. Some conference in 2011 I guess.

No, that is VXGI. Which is voxel based real time Global Illumination.

If we had that then we wouldn't need any AO at all.

VX based AO is there to work with VXGI, casting indirect AO from indirect shadows and lights. HBAO+ (and now HBAO+ Ultra) can work in tandem in top of that to get higher quality AO.

 

[Tektonic]

Search for viglink and find the opt out page.

thanks!

 

[Dr Dogg]

No, that is VXGI. Which is voxel based real time Global Illumination.

If we had that then we wouldn't need any AO at all.

Well VXGI is library made up of various components and can operate in various modes, one of them being ambient occlusion. Granted while no commercial game has shipped with it as of yet Nvidia have released a few bit of info most notably during the GPU Tech Conferences. Here's 2015's talk were AO is talked about at around 36mins. And the slides show it in action for their moon landing demo.

 

[tuxfool]

VX based AO is there to work with VXGI, casting indirect AO from indirect shadows and lights. HBAO+ (and now HBAO+ Ultra) can work in tandem in top of that to get higher quality AO.

The thing about HBAO (and most other screenspace AO), is that as good as it looks, it is still drastically inaccurate in regard to the real world.

You wouldn't want to use that after you went through all the trouble of simulating light bounce with VXGI.

Well VXGI is library made up of various components and can operate in various modes, one of them being ambient occlusion.

Thanks for this. As of yet there is no game that integrates VXGI, but there are a few Cryengine games that are integrating SVOTI, which is essentially the same thing (at a high level). Another one that is Tomorrow Children, which has its own proprietary implementation.

 

[FiveElementNinja]

Not sure if it was posted, but Tom Clancy encore bundle on Humble Bundle.

 

[chronomac]

 

[Parsnip]

Good on them.

 

[Stumpokapow]

3500 bundles after 3 hours.
Well done on the repeat, ubi.
Looks like mostly division preorders.

It'd be interesting if every humble bundle had a thumbs up / thumbs down button that each account could click once.

 

[MUnited83]

"Due to a system glitch". Wut? This exact situation happened so many times before I assumed it wasn't even a mistake at this point, just a way of clearing out the extra stock of codes before they expire. And everytime it happens it is indeed when it's close to expire, so I don't if I buy the "system glitch" thing, especially when it has happened regularly before and it's never fixed...

 

[Jawmuncher]

Wonder what the free games will be probably garbage

 

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[tmarg]

It'd be interesting if every humble bundle had a thumbs up / thumbs down button that each account could click once.

I don't think Humble need our help figuring out that a Uplay only encore bundle will be unpopular.

 

[MarcoZombieCannon]

"Due to a system glitch". Wut? This exact situation happened so many times before I assumed it wasn't even a mistake at this point, just a way of clearing out the extra stock of codes before they expire. And everytime it happens it is indeed when it's close to expire, so I don't if I buy the "system glitch" thing, especially when it has happened regularly before and it's never fixed...

Maybe AMD wasn't so pleased about it this time.

Which is weird, since the last one I can remember got people Star Citizen, and Alien Isolation. That seems like a bigger loss than this.

 

[PLASTICA-MAN]

The thing about HBAO (and most other screenspace AO), is that as good as it looks, it is still drastically inaccurate in regard to the real world.

You wouldn't want to use that after you went through all the trouble of simulating light bounce with VXGI.

VXGI calculations are more accurate for dynamic lighting solutions which imply indirect lighst shaodws and AO, though it is still gives very low quality results on screen with many many artifacts like voxels in shadows or voxels in reflections; that is why a screen-space space solution like SSR is needed to mask all those hiccups as a late solution or like a make up after a non 100% successful plastic surgery solution . VXGI is still in its early stages: when the algorithm and hardware get more advanced, we will ditch the screen space solutions like SSR SSAO and HBAO and all ist variations.

Thanks for this. As of yet there is no game that integrates VXGI, but there are a few Cryengine games that are integrating SVOTI, which is essentially the same thing (at a high level). Another one that is Tomorrow Children, which has its own proprietary implementation.

Also Quantum Break has a nice tech called Multi-Scale Global Illumination which is close to SVOTI.

 

[tuxfool]

VXGI calculations are more accurate for dynamic lighting solutions which imply indirect lighst shaodws and AO, though it is still gives very low quality results on screen with many many artifacts like voxels in shadows or voxels in reflections; that is why a screen-space space solution like SSR is needed to mask all those hiccups as a late solution or like a make up after a non 100% successful plastic surgery solution . VXGI is still in its early stages: when the algorithm and hardware get more advanced, we will ditch the screen space solutions like SSR SSAO and HBAO and all ist variations.

Hmm, interesting. Thanks for explaining.

 

[bigzgod]

Someone else received this message and posted it on another site, looks like they're only letting you keep 5 if you bought more than 5.

We are contacting you today regarding your recent purchase of the AMD Gift AMD Dirt Rally Game Code. As noted in the product title, this product was intended to be given to customers as a gift along with the purchase of an AMD processor. Due to a system glitch, the product was sold as a standalone item allowing you to purchase it individually at a very low price.

Because AMD intended for this item to be given as a gift with purchase, they will be deactivating your codes shortly. We apologize for the inconvenience this may have caused. A full refund will be issued immediately, please expect the funds to return to your original form of payment within the next 3-5 business days

As a token of our appreciation, we will allow you to keep 5 codes for free. We will provide the specific codes we are allowing you to keep in a different email within the next 48 hours.
Sincerely, Newegg Customer Service

 

[PLASTICA-MAN]

Hmm, interesting. Thanks for explaining.

You are welcome.

 

[Soulflarz]

You're complaining about a company who has brought pretty much most of their FF numbered games to the PC and blaming them?

Sure
I want 12 international.

Spoiler

Aka this waiting game is getting boring since it's a matter of when, not if.

I imported the zodiac edition, applied the fan translation patch and played it in glorious HD on PCSX2. It was great.

On that note, I'm not getting zodiac running on my ps2 in english, am I :<
(As in not without like getting an english copy already patched, since you can't use the original disc in english, and swap magic supports non retail discs)

 

[jshackles]

Can someone please port FF XII to PC
Like legally
Square
Please

I'm sitting here playing it on my ps2.
Companies like them are why I keep my PS2 plugged in at all times.

Give it time, it'll show up I'm sure. Although at this point it's much more likely to show up on the PS4's new PS2 emulator first.

 

[Soulflarz]

Give it time, it'll show up I'm sure. Although at this point it's much more likely to show up on the PS4's new PS2 emulator first.

Honestly, it's moreso my fear that they'd be lazy with the emulator and not give us international.

 

[MUnited83]

Give it time, it'll show up I'm sure. Although at this point it's much more likely to show up on the PS4's new PS2 emulator first.

What about the confirmation non-confirmation of a HD remake on that concert thingy?

 

[jshackles]

What about the confirmation non-confirmation of a HD remake on that concert thingy?

They issued an official statement denying everything (of course they would) but it's totally possible that what Arnie Roth saw SE working on was the PS4 port. At least, that's my best guess.

 

[xHiryu]

Am I the only one whom bought ROTR for $20, then to have Nvidia tell me there out of stock? Just my luck lol

 

[Hektor]

Can i reitarate on how much i liked FFXII while you're talking about it? I only played through the game once, but i probably sunk around 200 hours into the game due to the rare monsters and bounty hunter quests and all. It's my favorite FF and one of my favorite JPRG's in general.

I even bought (and still own) a Piggyback Guidebook for it. It's just so good. So, so good.

 

[Kriken]

Am I the only one whom bought ROTR for $20, then to have Nvidia tell me there out of stock? Just my luck lol

I don't think the Steam codes are ready yet, we're all waiting

 

[dex3108]

Interesting

Caution on the Tomb Raider keys peeps. It was from a $ .01 glitch. This could end up going the way of the Dirt Rally codes.

If anyone has an actual Dirt Rally Steam Key please PM me.

I'm NeoGaf Gold btw.

Thanks!

 

[tuxfool]

FFXII is one of the few games that I have played through more than twice. An HD remaster would be great but it still looks pretty good on pcsx2.

 

[Madn]

I've talked well about it, maybe it was me?!

Glad someone in here is finally playing it.

I'm sorry, I'm really bad at remembering names/avatars
Feel free to take the merit, tough! I've really enjoyed it a lot. Both the story and the combat system are great. For being a free Game Maker game I found it to be incredibly well made

 

[Dio Brando]

Am I the only one whom bought ROTR for $20, then to have Nvidia tell me there out of stock? Just my luck lol

nope, everyone is getting that. apparently the promotion is not working yet.

 

[Nyteshade517]

Am I the only one whom bought ROTR for $20, then to have Nvidia tell me there out of stock? Just my luck lol

everyone's in the same boat

they aren't fully redeemable yet...it's just a wait and see how long until NVIDIA puts the actual keys in the system

 

[jshackles]

Can i reitarate on how much i liked FFXII while you're talking about it? I only played through the game once, but i probably sunk around 200 hours into the game due to the rare monsters and bounty hunter quests and all. It's my favorite FF and one of my favorite JPRG's in general.

I even bought (and still own) a Piggyback Guidebook for it. It's just so good. So, so good.

It's pretty great, yeah. A lot of people call it the single-player MMO Final Fantasy, and I think that fits pretty well. I mean, one of the series signature traits is that there's almost always post-game stuff to do, but XII went above and beyond anything (even XIII and it's sequels) ever seen in a single player Final Fantasy game.

I've got my old PS2 disc and guide still, I might have to pop it into a PS2 emulator once I get my new graphics card up and running. I tried playing it that way a couple of years ago when I got my current card and I could only get about 10-15fps out of it at 1080p.

 

[Parsnip]

Can i reitarate on how much i liked FFXII while you're talking about it? I only played through the game once, but i probably sunk around 200 hours into the game due to the rare monsters and bounty hunter quests and all. It's my favorite FF and one of my favorite JPRG's in general.

It's the best FF game.
One day I'll play the international zodiac version, maybe once they remaster it.