Ar Tonelico?
Ar Nosurge?
Ace Combat?
Asura's Wrath?
(Not to mention Iris, Arland and Dusk trilogies and Mana duology).
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STEAM | January 2017 - Time to get GAMEDUMPED
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Ar Tonelico?
Ar Nosurge?
Ace Combat?
Asura's Wrath?
(Not to mention Iris, Arland and Dusk trilogies and Mana duology).
are you being intentionally obtuse? That's not what he wrote, at least not in the first place.
He divided the people hyping the game to 'people who aren't smart enough to realizade it's marketing and the game sucks' and 'sony console fanboys who get blinded by their love of sony'
and well, that is concept of AAA. Is there anything wrong with that, though? And really, you don't know why one would make a thread for a preview that contains information about a videogame in a videogame forum?
i'll be sure to keep an eye out and watch you complaining about all forms of marketing and stuff about games, scratch that, you might as well quit the forum and don't ever watch a game trailer again, because that's, uh, marketing.
Lanrutcon
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Did you snag a review copy or something?
Maybe they were keeping it short because they knew they only had a limited number of movie tickets and DVDs to give out for the higher tiers?
illusionary
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SUPERHOT is Bundle Stars' new Star Deal, 50% off which I think is a historic low.
https://www.bundlestars.com/en/star-deal
This price is available for about the next 18 hours.
https://www.bundlestars.com/en/star-deal
This price is available for about the next 18 hours.
jshackles
Gentlemen, we can rebuild it. We have the capability to make the world's first enhanced store. Steam will be that store. Better than it was before.
As this thread is a generalized thread for the PC platform, there will be people here who like AAA titles as well as those that don't - especially because the PC is typically the "platform of choice" for indie developers as well as the rise in day-one PC ports of what would traditionally be console-only games. What I'm trying to say is, you can expect this thread to be a good mix of people who enjoy games at all ends of every spectrum and every genre.
Console wars don't belong here. Sometimes we talk about console-only releases in regards to whether we think they'll come to PC, but this is not the place to discuss whether or not a particular non-PC game is getting too much marketing or hype or what your opinions of that game or it's fans are.
I try not to police this thread too much as people are rarely on-topic anyway, but there are a myriad of threads on gaming side for Horizon that would seem to be better suited to the discussion that's going on here about that game.
Console wars don't belong here. Sometimes we talk about console-only releases in regards to whether we think they'll come to PC, but this is not the place to discuss whether or not a particular non-PC game is getting too much marketing or hype or what your opinions of that game or it's fans are.
I try not to police this thread too much as people are rarely on-topic anyway, but there are a myriad of threads on gaming side for Horizon that would seem to be better suited to the discussion that's going on here about that game.
are you being intentionally obtuse? I never mentioned just trailers, I mentioned previews, and those backed by a publisher-mandated embargo (in which marketers determine when a person can publish a "preview" of the game)
you don't see the difference between a trailer that shows the game by itself versus a marketing push where people are pushing their opinion based on playing a preview build and not actually reviewing the game? why is it then that most 'previews' are glowing, even games that end up getting trashed in reviews? didn't know trailers had people speaking for 20 minutes at a time about "wow how great this game is go pre-order now!"
in regards to AAA, if the concept of AAA is that it has a large marketing budget, then when people say shit like "only AAA matters" how does that not infer that they are influenced by and/or prioritizing marketing over the actual product?
Tizoc
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You just reminded me that I should go about finishing Washe Doge 1, will get to it after I clear a few more PC games.
I think I also prefer hub-based over pure open world.
Xanadu Next does it great as well.
33% have finished SC, which would be somewhere between 10 and 13k, and since it's PC only there are going to be a number of people who played the previous ones on the PSP jumping on board.
It's going to be intersting to see what the numbers will be, but yeah I don't expect it to light the sales-chart on fire
Let's hope it at least tops Xanadu Next sales... not that's it's too hard or anything
I just hope i can finish Berseria before Atelier releases, which seems more and more unlikely the way i play this game. It'd be a shame if i had to put any of these games away in favor of the other - my enjoyment of Berseria pretty much rivals my excitement for Atelier, didn't expect to like it as much as i do after playing it for about 25 hours. Not to mention i have few other games i've finally dug up from my backlog which i haven't finished yet in favor of playing Berseria :\ First world problems and all that.
I wonder when / if Zesteria will get a price cut (I mean a base price cut, not a sale), I was banking on it getting a price cut when Berseria came out, but now that I think about it, its not exactly a sequel in the same sense that say, a Naruto 4 to Naruto 3 is, so they might not drop it anytime soon. Then again, Im not sure how fast Namco usually drops their base prices :/
This is the last time I will comment on this topic
I did no such thing and I find it increasingly weird that you push this narrative of smart or not or that this is specifically a "Sony" thing. I include myself among those that are "casual" in their discovery of games - relying on marketing and word of mouth of the same rather than with their ear to being investigative towards game discovery and finding what they like. I would consider that easily marketed to. "AAA" as arbitrary a term as that is becoming, is overwhelmingly a dominant force in this regard. Such marketing is often the stirrer of hype, particularly with the platform exclusives, regardless of platform, and then in turn reduced critical discussion. Several games imo tend to lean so far into this and demonstrate little that interests me, tending to be over prescribed games in their nature, and in large part why I think the genre stagnates outside some exceptions. Outside looking in, since it has been a long while since I have purely focused on such games, it seems more and more bizarre how polar this becomes, more so online that with the people I know.
If you want to keep spinning this as an anti "sony" thing / about "smart" and not, you really prove my point in struggling to handle critisism of a game, particularly HZD right now. That's all I have to say.
A nicely made hub world is something is something I want to see more of. One of the reasons the new Mario Odyssey seems so appealing to me too.
damn i'm in the mood for some jrpgs ever since i finished ff4, started trails in the sky =o
Horizon whatever looks good, and i fucking hated killzone 2, sure it might not end up being the best thing ever but i think i could extract some fun from it, it's hard to fuck up a third person open world game other than that it might get repetitive
Horizon whatever looks good, and i fucking hated killzone 2, sure it might not end up being the best thing ever but i think i could extract some fun from it, it's hard to fuck up a third person open world game other than that it might get repetitive
Chance Hale
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Is it worth investing in Snipers in VC? Often times they don't one hit kill and they have very limited movement range.
I'm with you. Still awesome.
I mean a lot of info we get about games are backed by publisher-mandated embargo (even in some indie games), that's completely normal. And how it isn't normal for a preview to be more positive when it's a only a portion of the game that's devoid of what it would actually make it suck?
And really, you didn't know that trailers did that to people? Not even E3 presentations? Controlled demos? Walkthroughs from websites?
The concept of AAA is as nebulous as the concept of 'indie' these days, it obviously speaks to the scope of a game (marketing wise, concept wise, mechanics wise, graphics wise), not just one thing.
Like i said, there's no problem with disliking this hype culture, i do so too, but to say 'oh boy you like this game because you didn't actually GET it if you did you wouldn't like it' is a terrible argument. He did something akin to that in that first post and that's.. it, i guess.
i don't mind criticising games neither do i mind if someone says horizon is shit, like i already said a ton of times, i just said that the way you said it is a superficial, shallow critic that relies on a being on a higher intellectual standing which obviously you (and me) don't have in this context. It's a silly way of talking that a lot of people on GAF use to dismiss criticism or to give criticism that's devoid of any concrete arguments.
I said sony in that context because it's a Sony game, but honestly you can apply that to any of the big three. I agree with what you said about people being more defensive about this kind of stuff but what you first said sounded quite different (and you even agreed with me on that point), i wasn't talking about the other post.
Is Atelier like Touhou, in that they are all lesbians?
The game deliberately makes it so that you can't bulldoze maps with snipers using map design for the most part. Despite that they're still worth using in a few limited scenarios. By past-midpoint they should have the accuracy and damage to one-shot units with a headshot using either upgraded weapons or royal weapons.
Chapter 12 is the mission you want to make sure you have accurate, powerful snipers for.
They're nice to have around even if it takes two shots to kill, but you're going to want to do that only if the situation requires it.
Lanrutcon
Member
2 schools of thought:
1. The cheesy way: Scouts trump all. Play like you're speedrunning. Snipers are too slow to be worth anything, plus you could be fielding another scout.
2. The proper way: Snipers are situational. In some stages they are basically specialists you call in to remove a few hard to reach threats, and then you recall them.
Dragon1893
Member
I was really surprised with how much I ended up enjoying Ar NoSurge, the story is pretty clever and the main characters really grew on me. Very nice art direction as well and an interesting battle system. Look past the first impression of typical otaku bait and anime nonsense and it will be worth your time.
And yeah, Horizon looks absolutely incredible.
They have limited use for sure compared to other classes, but then again they also saved my ass more than once.
They'll get strong enough to one-shot enemies with a headshot in time.
Ah alright. I got SuperHOT already.
I can't believe I don't know how to progress from the create-a-badge screen in the For Honor beta. I'm stuck on a fucking menu screen lmao.
texhnolyze
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He's talking about Nier
Nier Automata most likely.
texhnolyze
Banned
Wow, so it's true then. Expected, but still sucks.
I had to do a double check.. PETA... Really?
http://www.peta.org.uk/blog/peta-warhammer-fur-free/
Is this the end for Warhammer?
http://www.peta.org.uk/blog/peta-warhammer-fur-free/
Is this the end for Warhammer?
pantsattack
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Hey gang. Are the 3D Fallouts like Xenus 2? I feel like I'm scavenging crates more than playing the "game." I'm not too far into it though.
Have a free game.
Have a free game.
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TheLetdown
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Holy shit, they finally put W3 expansion pass on sale!
On the day I find out I'll probably have to put down my cat. At this rate and from all appearances, possibly by the week's end.
On the day I find out I'll probably have to put down my cat. At this rate and from all appearances, possibly by the week's end.
I can't believe I just read that.
Asking the company that LITERALLY invented "grimdark" fantasy to stop "animal cruelty" in their fictional universe where mass hallocausts and genocides are relatively commonplace is both hilarious and sad. All of that is ingoring the fact that Games Workshop the company has nothing to do with animals at all (they make minitures and board games none of which include animal fur)! That was maybe the silliest article I've seen all day.
Phawx
Member
It takes a special person to look at something with a very personal narrow lens and then believe their views apply to everyone.
I honestly didn't even pay any attention to the fur.
PETA should stick to making video games.
Do them in release order, which makes sense I think. In terms of levels and stuff it also flows that way. So do Hearts of Stone first and then Blood and Wine. Not just for the crafting, but the content will be crazy in terms of the leveling also if you do them in the other order.
Ghostmaster
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Hearts, Blood and Wine pretty much serves as the bookend to the series.
The runecraft in Hearts of Stone is garbage. Plenty of shit to waste your money on in Blood and Wine, would not prioritize the runes.
My preferred path is: Witcher 3 Act 1-2, Hearts of Stone, finish base game, Blood and Wine.
Blasphemy.
My preferred path is: Witcher 3 Act 1-2, Hearts of Stone, finish base game, Blood and Wine.
Blasphemy.
Weird, I thought Hearts of Stone was excellent, I even had a better experience than the base game (though maybe that's because I grinded most sidequests and undiscovered locations in the base game and the story didn't have a very good flow). What made it uninteresting to you?
I honestly did not give a damn about the main antagonist (take that each way, applies to all)
Hell, the only moment I liked was
the final moment of the dead wife part.
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