CDPR last year strongly suggested that it "doesn't have control" over whether or not the Steam version will contain DRM, which is patently false unless CDPR is being bent over a barrel by Scamco/WB (they're splitting the game's $25m marketing budget, which is $10m higher than the game's development budget, so naturally they have some say).
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STEAM | July 2014-3 Let Off Some STEAM Bennett
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CDPR last year strongly suggested that it "doesn't have control" over whether or not the Steam version will contain DRM, which is patently false unless CDPR is being bent over a barrel by Scamco/WB (they're splitting the game's $25m marketing budget, which is $10m higher than the game's development budget, so naturally they have some say).
ashecitism
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Fez
CDR didn't confirm the DRM-free-ness of the Steam version, by outright lying. I assume to make sure people buy it on GOG.
This is outright bullshit, and if anything it makes me weary of anything CDR says.
It's a completely optional component, even in the case of Steamworks titles, but, yes, there can be behavioural differences between running a Steamworks game from Steam and running it outside of Steam, which is why Trails isn't DRM-free on Steam despite also being on GOG as XSEED doesn't want to deal with the additional tech support variables -- again, though, CEG isn't a requirement in any way, shape or form. Any issues related to a Steamworks game acting funky when run outside of Steam are ones that could be patched up, as Super Meat Boy, Divinity: Dragon Commander, Transistor, etc. prove.
MMBosstones86
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IdleMaster didn't change this. There were a couple ways to circumvent this before. Where IdleMaster comes into play is 'setting it and forgetting it' by queueing up your games and idling one after another.
Previously you had to idle each game individually
I'm just glad I was able to share it with the thread.
Chairmanchuck
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What is Idle Master?
Neither are. I can't exactly blame CDPR for not wanting to give the Steam versions GOG's biggest advantage, though -- there's an understandable conflict of interest there.
Jshack's new program that was created specifically to aid in card idling. The idea is that you load it up and walk away, however there are still some kinks to work out.
If something like that truly bothers you, then cracking the exe is an easy option to get around Steam.
Valve turns a blind eye and you can run the game completely independently. I had to do exactly that when I was playing San Andreas recently, used the AppID trick to show I was playing the game.
Valve turns a blind eye and you can run the game completely independently. I had to do exactly that when I was playing San Andreas recently, used the AppID trick to show I was playing the game.
jim-jam bongs
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Shit, it's almost like CDPR want you to buy the game directly from GOG so they can get all your monies.
I wouldn't say it's right, but as I said above, it's understandable. GOG's main draw is DRM-free games, after all.
LurkerPrime
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So you think they're lying when they say they have more control over a GOG release of their game than a Steam release? You realise they own GOG.com, right?
Capt.Haddock
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If i get cs complete will i get cs1.6 and css as gift in my inventory ? I already have those,i just want csgo and cs complete seems cheaper to get in market than csgo.
MMBosstones86
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if you are buying from Steam, most likely not.
AHA-Lambda
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Is it not possible to buy a cheap RU copy of the witcher 3 from gog and therefore have no DRM problems?
GOG supports gifting, so yes, that's a possibility.
It's not about the release, is about the DRM. They do have complete control over including DRM or not.
With their anti-DRM crusade, I would think they would be extremely hypocritical if they included DRM on the Steam version.
jim-jam bongs
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I already bought The Witcher 3 from GOG anyway, the discount for owning the other two games plus the chance for beta access to The Witcher boardgame made it an easy choice. It would be good if they made it DRM free on Steam, but if not there's still cheesemints and cards. All a matter of priorities.
YianGaruga
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Incestomonicon not cheap enough for you before? It's 6€/$ now at bundlestars
http://www.bundlestars.com/store/demonicon-the-dark-eye
http://www.bundlestars.com/store/demonicon-the-dark-eye
I was laying in bed when I posted all of that. I only look at the artwork and read the quick description. I never said that most of them are worth funding or that you should.
I look at the art style and if it catch my interest then I'll take a closer look later. Maybe I should have clarify. To me "finding it interesting" when talking about a kickstarter project mean purely aesthetic in the beginning.
But CDPR should be doubl.... triple dipped, right?
I own physical, GOG and Steam versions of both games so far
MMBosstones86
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I can't speak to the DRM on W1/2, but the thing there is that Steam copies redeemed on GOG, so you basically got a Steam version + a GOG (DRM-Free) version. If they include 'Steam-DRM' on W3 and lock out redeeming on GOG, I can see where the beef is.
billmcdougal
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Fuzzi is amazing. I just wish senpai notice me more
That's right. Fuzzi is legit.
the problem is not that the GOG version is DRM free, and the Steam version isn't. the problem is that CDPR has gone over-the-top in their marketing and have embraced the role as pro-consumer heroes, when in reality they are worse than the hundreds of games that have quietly released games on humble DRM Free with steam keys. they have a few ways of correcting the issue, (make the steam version DRM free, allow steam version to activate on GOG) but i suppose we'll have to wait til februrary to find out.
i would even be okay with an un-advertised, under-the-table method of "Buy TW3 on GOG, send us an email and we'll send you a steam key"
i would even be okay with an un-advertised, under-the-table method of "Buy TW3 on GOG, send us an email and we'll send you a steam key"
Gunstarheroes
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This game has become a staple of the gaming night my friends and I do every week. Seriously, if you don't own it, you are missing out on one hell of a good party game.
There's still Thief 1 and Bioshock left if anyone needs them:
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=123326072&postcount=20277
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=123326072&postcount=20277
Terra_Ex
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Wasn't their spat with Bamco caused by the fact they patched out the drm from the retail version of Witcher 2 (which to be fair was causing performance issues) without their approval. Given all that's happened between them I wouldn't put it past Bamco to be pressing the issue. I'm sure CDPR will eventually allow key redemption on GOG anyway.
Yep, basically this.
I really doubt they will offer GOG keys this time around. I don't see it happening. At launch at least. They might offer it a few months down the line of course.
StrangeTaco
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But CDPR should be doubl.... triple dipped, right?
I own physical, GOG and Steam versions of both games so far
Damn, that's a lot of dipping. Could you explain the appeal of buying a game more than once? I've seen multiple people do it I just don't understand it myself.
If only they had enough power over GOG to price the game fairly for everyone but I guess their power only extends up to but not including the price of their own game, on their own service. Sure, they are attempting to offer a bit of extra value with the fair price package but in reality, that just doesn't do anything for a lot of people.
jshackles
Gentlemen, we can rebuild it. We have the capability to make the world's first enhanced store. Steam will be that store. Better than it was before.
Exactly. What I've settled on is in the getAppName function, I'm returning str(unicode(api_data[str(appID)]["data"]["name"])) which, if the game has a non-mutable character will throw an exception. The exception code just returns "app " + appID. So for most things, it'll properly list the name of the game, but if you start idling "Sid Meier's Civilization® V", it'll just be listed as "app 8930".
I'm a capitalist Dogg and bought The Witcher III on Steam purely for chessements and cards and in hope CDPR will allow a DRM free copy again at a later date (well fingers crossed). Judge me now if you will.
Actually I was umming and ahhing over the Collectors Swag Griffin Toy Statue Edition for the artbook but no was was I paying £120.
Don't know when the last time you checked the store page but most of the goodies CDPR were offering on GOG are listed as preorder bonuses for Steam now as well. No Boardgame beta or papercraft dolls and a few others but all the arty stuff and soundtrack looks like it's included. Though I think I know what you mean by 'artwork'
http://store.steampowered.com/app/292030/
Actually I was umming and ahhing over the Collectors Swag Griffin Toy Statue Edition for the artbook but no was was I paying £120.
Don't know when the last time you checked the store page but most of the goodies CDPR were offering on GOG are listed as preorder bonuses for Steam now as well. No Boardgame beta or papercraft dolls and a few others but all the arty stuff and soundtrack looks like it's included. Though I think I know what you mean by 'artwork'
http://store.steampowered.com/app/292030/
MMBosstones86
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I'd be fine allowing my Steam key to redeem on GOG (probably won't happen right away) to get access to the......'artwork' and stuff.
corrosivefrost
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That does look awesome.
Voted yes on greenlight, was willing to grab an "early bird" backer @ $10, but for whatever reason, they don't have that tier. In that case, much like Jenny LaClue, I'll wait for the game to release and grab it at some discount shortly thereafter.
Update your IdleM@ster. New version fixes problems with unique symbols like
i still have not bought speedrunners. i wanted to buy it 1 or 2 days back but there was only 10 seconds left on the deal and when i finally got to the checkout area it went back to $10
Coreda
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Totally taking inspiration from Ghibli characters, in a good way
corrosivefrost
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i still have not bought speedrunners. i wanted to buy it 1 or 2 days back but there was only 10 seconds left on the deal and when i finally got to the checkout area it went back to $10
Bad form, mate. Bad form...
I am using the updated version he uploaded yesterday.
jshackles
Gentlemen, we can rebuild it. We have the capability to make the world's first enhanced store. Steam will be that store. Better than it was before.
I've published about 3-4 bugfixes this morning. You can just copy start.exe from Github and replace your current one, see if that works for you.
Thanks jshackles
just saw that you reupdated earlier this morning. WIll test and see if it work. I think the game its stuck on right now is Burnout Paradise. I think. it crashed too fast for me to see what the game is.-----------
Edit: okay I did what you told me. it crashed twice, so I just ended up deleting the entire old folder and use the new one.
it still crashed twice and rebooted itself right away. Now it's stable. for now.
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