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[Arthea]

It's a thread in gaming asking about One Hit Wonders in game development in which a good amount of posters answer mentioning developers with several hits on their shoulders.

I mean, if I didn't like a game that sold millions or if I didn't like a game that was critically acclaimed, it obviously doesn't count as a hit.

oh yeah, I've seen it before, decided it's not worth reading
thanks anyway

 

[Haunted]

I know your pain. Valve really needs to make developers stop doing this.

at least they're in the right order

 

[Baron von Loathsome]

Every time I look into that one-hit-wonder thread my life expectancy goes down by a few months. I might already be dead actually.

It's a good thread topic, but it's unbelievable how poorly some people understand the idea behind the thread.

We all miss it.

 

[Miguel81]

That thread contains Ico, Itagaki, and even Warren Spector. Not exactly a good place for me.

 

[dex3108]

Man this weather is unbearable. It is 36°C/97°F in shade here at my place.

 

[Hektor]

That thread contains Ico, Itagaki, and even Warren Spector. Not exactly a good place for me.

It even includes Naughty Dog, the studio that is responsible for 4 of the best games ever made.

Spoiler

 

[fantomena]

Played quite a bit of Rocket League on PS4. Game is super fun, might be a GOTY contender for me. Will get the PC version asap.

 

[iosefe]

Played quite a bit of Rocket League on PS4. Game is super fun, might be a GOTY cotnender for me. Will get the PC version asap.

yaasss

then we can party up and to duos

 

[Dusk Golem]

Oh dear, I found out something I didn't know about F2P game trading cards that's going to have to make me have to think of what to do for Close Your Eyes trading cards. It wasn't in the main thing I was reading and is going to have to make me really consider something right now.

 

[fantomena]

Every time I look into that one-hit-wonder thread my life expectancy goes down by a few months. I might already be dead actually.

As soon as I read Team ICO I left the thread.

 

[Sarcasm]

Oh dear, I found out something I didn't know about F2P game trading cards that's going to have to make me have to think of what to do for Close Your Eyes trading cards. It wasn't in the main thing I was reading and is going to have to make me really consider something right now.

Very vague...can you explain?

 

[Freedom = $1.05]

Very vague...can you explain?

F2P games don't drop cards unless you buy something within the game. Wonder if that's what he's talking about.

 

[Arthea]

btw, today is new HB, any guesses aside of Capcpom bundle?

 

[Baron von Loathsome]

Very vague...can you explain?

I thought for F2P games, you get one card drop for every ~$9 you spend on the game.

btw, today is new HB, any guesses aside of Capcpom bundle?

Humble Borderlands Bundle Encore. Same bundle stays up for two more weeks.

 

[Haunted]

It even includes Naughty Dog, the studio that is responsible for 4 of the best games ever made.

Spoiler

woooow we can spoiler tag pictures now?

gamechanger

 

[XShagrath]

at least they're in the right order

Depressurizer allowed me to put all my games in the right order.

 

[Arthea]

F2P games don't drop cards unless you buy something within the game. Wonder if that's what he's talking about.

that's not exactly like this, some games have cards tied to dlcs, when you buy dlcs you unlock different numbers of card drops.

 

[madjoki]

at least they're in the right order

It's fixed now actually:

 

[Dusk Golem]

Very vague...can you explain?

On account this isn't confidential information, yes.

So Close Your Eyes is a free game, and I'd like to keep it like that. But me and my artist really wanted Trading Cards, so we did that... BUUUUUT apparently to get card drops on Steam game that's F2P, a user needs to have spent $9 on a game. The piece of DLC we had I was going to charge for $1.99, but I may need to raise it to $9.99, but I honestly don't want to charge that much, so then I'd either have to come up with something else or some other option. I don't want to drop Trading Cards as they're approved and done, but now I have to wrack my brain around how to handle this. If it's some little freeware RPG Maker horror game with ridiculously priced DLC, then people aren't going to be too happy with that. But on the flip-side, I do want Trading Cards... I mean, one solution would be to charge $0.99 for the game, since then it'd no longer be F2P, but that's been a goal to make it a free game. Just... Ayyyeee.

 

[derExperte]

Oh dear, I found out something I didn't know about F2P game trading cards that's going to have to make me have to think of what to do for Close Your Eyes trading cards. It wasn't in the main thing I was reading and is going to have to make me really consider something right now.

The only thing I need to know: Is it exploitable so we can somehow make huge amounts of dosh by selling cards?

 

[Freedom = $1.05]

that's not exactly like this, some games have cards tied to dlcs, when you buy dlcs you unlock different numbers of card drops.

lol that pretty much covered in my statement

 

[Arthea]

lol that pretty much covered in my statement

kinda sorta, but your post made me think only about microtransactions, I just wanted to point out that's not the only way.

 

[Rhaknar]

Yatagarasu looks ROUGH. Kinda expected from beta impressions, but it looks janky as shit, straight out of mugen. Looks like bundle fodder Vanguard Princess opposed to a $15 proper release.

Especially considering Battle Fantasia is out the same day for the same price, and its a proper game, with the bonus of having a rabbit with a giant wizard hat.

 

[Chairmanchuck]

Yatagarasu looks ROUGH. Kinda expected from beta impressions, but it looks janky as shit, straight out of mugen. Looks like bundle fodder Vanguard Princess opposed to a $15 proper release.

Especially considering Battle Fantasia is out the same day for the same price, and its a proper game, with the bonus of having a rabbit with a giant wizard hat.

Wasnt this in development for so long?

 

[JaseC]

It's fixed now actually:

Well, Syndicate is in the wrong spot (it should be after Unity, not sandwiched between Rogue and Chronicles), but otherwise yes.

 

[Dragon1893]

All according to plan.

I have to ask, ever get the chance to take a pic with her like the dude I quoted?
He said she was very nice which is cool.

 

[MMBosstones86]

On account this isn't confidential information, yes.

So Close Your Eyes is a free game, and I'd like to keep it like that. But me and my artist really wanted Trading Cards, so we did that... BUUUUUT apparently to get card drops on Steam game that's F2P, a user needs to have spent $9 on a game. The piece of DLC we had I was going to charge for $1.99, but I may need to raise it to $9.99, but I honestly don't want to charge that much, so then I'd either have to come up with something else or some other option. I don't want to drop Trading Cards as they're approved and done, but now I have to wrack my brain around how to handle this. If it's some little freeware RPG Maker horror game with ridiculously priced DLC, then people aren't going to be too happy with that. But on the flip-side, I do want Trading Cards... I mean, one solution would be to charge $0.99 for the game, since then it'd no longer be F2P, but that's been a goal to make it a free game. Just... Ayyyeee.

You could either change to not F2P (..as you said..) or just make a DLC to enable card drops? But yeah, $10 for DLC is pretty crazy just to get cards.

Is $.99 the cheapest you can sell a game for to enable cards? Could just offer ridiculous 90% off as well hah.

 

[Dusk Golem]

So, now I have three options;

-Charge the base game for $0.99 (though I'd like to keep it F2P...)
-Make over $9 in DLC, maybe charge the Goodie Bag for that much...
-Make these the impossible to obtain Trading Cards.

It says this on the Trading Card FAQ: http://steamcommunity.com/tradingcards/faq/

But I hadn't heard about it until doing outside research, so is that still in play or true. Hmn, things to consider...

 

[Phawx]

I missed that price mistake on Ori and the Blind Forest.

The ONE night I actually sleep at a normal time.

 

[Rhaknar]

Wasnt this in development for so long?

and yet looks like the same game that we saw 3 years ago. just looks completely slapped together for release. Theres a quicklook for those curious, Jason (at least now Giantbomb has a proper fighting game player) tries to be positive on it but yeesh

 

[JaseC]

I have to ask, ever get the chance to take a pic with her like the dude I quoted?
He said she was very nice which is cool.

Nah. Bali is as far as I've travelled internationally and she hasn't attended a premiere here since The Lovely Bones.

 

[Arthea]

I missed that price mistake on Ori and the Blind Forest.

The ONE night I actually sleep at a normal time.

I'm not even mad, it was still 5€ if I understood correctly, it'll reach that price with time, then again it's not my type of a game, so maybe that's why I'm fine with waiting.

OTOH Project Cars price... OMG... it'll never happen again.

 

[Miguel81]

I'm still dumbfounded that Steam is receiving two Tales of games. That's some great news.

I'm not even mad, it was still 5€ if I understood correctly, it'll reach that price with time, then again it's not my type of a game, so maybe that's why I'm fine with waiting.

OTOH Project Cars price... OMG... it'll never happen again.

I feel shitty for paying 37 for Project Cars now. Ended up having to wait for the AMD driver update to get decent performance anyway.

 

[derExperte]

So, now I have three options;

-Charge the base game for $0.99 (though I'd like to keep it F2P...)
-Make over $9 in DLC, maybe charge the Goodie Bag for that much...
-Make these the impossible to obtain Trading Cards.

It says this on the Trading Card FAQ: http://steamcommunity.com/tradingcards/faq/

But I hadn't heard about it until doing outside research, so is that still in play or true. Hmn, things to consider...

Is .99 the lowest you can go?

 

[dex3108]

Hell yeah new Rayman game for

Spoiler

mobile

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pRjXVjmb9nw

 

[Phawx]

I'm not even mad, it was still 5€ if I understood correctly, it'll reach that price with time, then again it's not my type of a game, so maybe that's why I'm fine with waiting.

OTOH Project Cars price... OMG... it'll never happen again.

I did get in on that Project Cars price mistake. I would have preferred Ori tbh.

 

[Annubis]

So, now I have three options;

-Charge the base game for $0.99 (though I'd like to keep it F2P...)
-Make over $9 in DLC, maybe charge the Goodie Bag for that much...
-Make these the impossible to obtain Trading Cards.

It says this on the Trading Card FAQ: http://steamcommunity.com/tradingcards/faq/

But I hadn't heard about it until doing outside research, so is that still in play or true. Hmn, things to consider...

With booster pack creation, option #3 is pretty valid still.
Exactly like Heroine's Quest: The Herald of Ragnarok.

What about micro-transactions?

 

[JaseC]

Is .99 the lowest you can go?

I'd say so. There isn't a single game on the US store with a base price below it.

 

[derExperte]

I'd say so. There isn't a single game on the US store with a base price below it.

Then.... make it .99 and apply a 99% discount.

Hell yeah new Rayman game for

Spoiler

mobile

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pRjXVjmb9nw

The first two mobile titles were good so I won't complain.

 

[Arthea]

I'm still dumbfounded that Steam is receiving two Tales of games. That's some great news.

I honestly wouldn't have believed that even a year ago, like it's even less believable than the Last Guardian still being made or FF7 remake, or new Shenmue, or FF0 on steam.
What time to be alive!

I did get in on that Project Cars price mistake. I would have preferred Ori tbh.

well, to each its own

 

[Leafhopper]

and yet looks like the same game that we saw 3 years ago. just looks completely slapped together for release. Theres a quicklook for those curious, Jason (at least now Giantbomb has a proper fighting game player) tries to be positive on it but yeesh

The game has been basically done for this long, considering it got that Arcade release already and still looks like this. they just took awhile for this console version to come out though.

I am not sure what you were expecting. I guess they could have offered some more resolutions but the gameplay and graphics pretty much were set in stone for awhile now.

Not saying it looks great or anything by any means but, the game wasn't going to change that much from what I saw in beta or the arcade build of the game.

 

[Locust]

So, now I have three options;

-Charge the base game for $0.99 (though I'd like to keep it F2P...)
-Make over $9 in DLC, maybe charge the Goodie Bag for that much...
-Make these the impossible to obtain Trading Cards.

It says this on the Trading Card FAQ: http://steamcommunity.com/tradingcards/faq/

But I hadn't heard about it until doing outside research, so is that still in play or true. Hmn, things to consider...

I'm pretty sure I've gotten the default amount of drops for f2p games just through having a piece of DLC for them. So that $9 limit might just be for ingame purchase triggered drops.

from my booster pack list:
Warframe (got a starter pack for this, never bought anything ingame, didnt buy the starter pack myself)
Magicka: Wizard Wars (got 3 card drops, only got free robe DLCs)

I suppose it could be possible to test drops before release if you activate the cards and then allow prerelease access for some keys? At least I've seen beta testers sell cards for unreleased games before.

 

[Dusk Golem]

I'm pretty sure I've gotten the default amount of drops for f2p games just through having a piece of DLC for them. So that $9 limit might just be for ingame purchase triggered drops.

I hope this is true. XD;

If not... I'll have to figure something out.

 

[MadGear]

Yatagarasu looks ROUGH. Kinda expected from beta impressions, but it looks janky as shit, straight out of mugen. Looks like bundle fodder Vanguard Princess opposed to a $15 proper release.

Especially considering Battle Fantasia is out the same day for the same price, and its a proper game, with the bonus of having a rabbit with a giant wizard hat.

Yeah. I just watched the Quick Look on this and really couldn't believe how rough the game looks. Mechanically it could appeal to me but the way it is presented really does not.

I'm also not really happy about the inconsistency in resolution. The characters look really low res with their eye popping pixelated look but backgrounds and projectiles look way higher resolution. Maybe I'm a bit nitpicky, but I think that this combination just doesn't mix well at all.

 

[MUnited83]

Will be buying tomorrow since I have no time to play today. The price tag, along with no release discount, will hurt sales though.

Will it? Game seems to be selling amazingly well.

 

[derExperte]

i can't help but notice none of you bought Rocket League yet

PS+, please understand.

 

[Se7enSword]

The perfect game for Se7enSword!

And FiveElementNinja!

Heh.

 

[Madn]

How do I make a giveaway for a Steam gift I have?

 

[derExperte]

How do I make a giveaway for a Steam gift I have?

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=858592 -> http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=72143371&postcount=2

 

[Accoun]

OP mentions Tetris guy. first page has 5 posts saying 'Tetris guy'.

Reading is hard.

Further into the thread someone says "The Tetris guy would be a great example, not sure why the OP omitted him".

It was the only example in the OP, IIRC.