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i barely just started, got to prague and there's a
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divided?
i barely just started, got to prague and there's a
You could start with Tyranny.
It's actually very simple so a good place to start.
If you're okay with a harsher start though Pillars of Eternity or Divinity Original Sin are both incredible games.
Alex_CWB
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I pre-ordered ZTD and still haven't played it yet, waiting for 999+VLR.
The time has finally come. ^^
Atraveller
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D:OS's combat system is deep but not complex, it's simply a lot of fun.
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Kurt Russell
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Torment: Tides of Numenera may be a great choice to start with CRPGs. You can solve everything with words (and if you get into a combat situation, you can also talk your way out most of the time) It's also quite short compared to other games in the genre (20-25 hours)
Divinity Original Sin is amazing, but the combat situations are so open that you may get a bit dizzy.
Doomedfool
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Ouch, that's not cool! I say buy Sophie and enjoy the next few days before the potential suck kicks in.
my mako nendoroid breaking really bums me out, these past four weeks have been shitty to say the least
anyways, mankind evolved kind of cheered me up a bit, it's further proof that detective quests in rpgs are the best kinds of quests there can be
also i fucking want a game in which you play as montag
mankind evolved has been a parade of shitty characters and montag is like the drop of water in the desert, except this water is like freaking champagne or something
he's great
anyways, fuck
thats a mankind divided shot? damn, I need to play that
edit: wait mankind evolved? is that some sort of dlc?
It's a bit more intimidating that some I think just because of the sheer number of systems. If that interests you it's definitely one of the best, though, you'll just have to fight through it. Otherwise maybe start with something simpler but still very good like Shadowrun: Dragonfall.
I also think Pillars of Eternity can make a good introduction as well if you prefer/don't mind real time w/ pause combat.
White Wolf
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my mako nendoroid breaking really bums me out, these past four weeks have been shitty to say the least
anyways, mankind evolved kind of cheered me up a bit, it's further proof that detective quests in rpgs are the best kinds of quests there can be
also i fucking want a game in which you play as montag
mankind evolved has been a parade of shitty characters and montag is like the drop of water in the desert, except this water is like freaking champagne or something
he's great
anyways, fuck
(one of the best) side quest in the game right there
montag for president
I think to start out with the genre something a bit simpler and more focused would be better. Something like Shadowrun
ragonfall.Then you can move on to things like Divinity:OS or Pillars of Eternity.
my mako nendoroid breaking really bums me out, these past four weeks have been shitty to say the least
anyways, mankind evolved kind of cheered me up a bit, it's further proof that detective quests in rpgs are the best kinds of quests there can be
also i fucking want a game in which you play as montag
mankind evolved has been a parade of shitty characters and montag is like the drop of water in the desert, except this water is like freaking champagne or something
he's great
anyways, fuck
Yeah, the entire Montag questline was awesome, I loved a lot of MD's side quests, the three writers assigned to them should have written the main story (different people and it shows). A shame it will be a long time before we get to see Bob Page's Illuminati coup and Jensen's end, if ever.
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There's no such thing.
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I would ask the same thing tbqh
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You sure it's not the other half of the game that we are never getting?
I'm not bitter at all...
lyne is not really similar but it's another chill puzzle game
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I try not to think about it.You sure it's not the other half of the game that we are never getting?
I'm not bitter at all...
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DOSEE is one of the best (if not the best) turn-based CRPGs, so sure. It's an incredible game with some of the best combat ever. It is intuitive, but at the same time it doesn't hold your hand either which may be frustrating. The sequel is most likely out this year and is looking to improve on everything DOSEE did, so you'll be ahead of the game if you play the first game now.
Another possibility is the Shadowrun series (Returns, Dragonfall, and Hong Kong). Just note that Returns is terrible compared to the other two, in every way; it's only worth playing first or not at all. Anyways, they're pretty straightforward turn-based games with excellent writing.
Although, if you're looking for real-time CRPGs, I'd go with Pillars of Eternity. It's not as good as Baldur's Gate's EEs IMO, but it is an excellent entry into the genre nonetheless. There's a lot of combat, but it manages to be a lot less obtuse than the D&D-based systems in Baldur's Gate.
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Did you get any cheese and guava pastries?
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I gave up on Tyranny because I just couldn't stand that combat after D:OS
Also while the game has a cool world it sucks that for all the "you are supposed to be this evil dude that decides fates of others", there are like 3-4 even eviler dudes who outrank you, so you basically become diet renegade Shepard.
So yeah my vote is either D:OS or Shadowrun
Also while the game has a cool world it sucks that for all the "you are supposed to be this evil dude that decides fates of others", there are like 3-4 even eviler dudes who outrank you, so you basically become diet renegade Shepard.
So yeah my vote is either D:OS or Shadowrun
Thanks. I'll give it a try.
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Eventually, you'll want to have played all of these.
Baldur's Gate EE
Baldur's Gate 2 EE
Divinity Original Sin EE
Divinity Original Sin 2
Pillars of Eternity
Pillars of Eternity II: Deadfire
Planescape: Torment
Shadowrun: Dragonfall
Shadowrun: Hong Kong
Torment: Tides of Numenera
Tyranny
So... give or take 700 hours? More if you replay some of them.
Baldur's Gate EE
Baldur's Gate 2 EE
Divinity Original Sin EE
Divinity Original Sin 2
Pillars of Eternity
Pillars of Eternity II: Deadfire
Planescape: Torment
Shadowrun: Dragonfall
Shadowrun: Hong Kong
Torment: Tides of Numenera
Tyranny
So... give or take 700 hours? More if you replay some of them.
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Ehh, Tyranny is probably the only game that really accounts for evil-axis characters in a believable way. You can be so bone-chillingly evil, while still dwarfed by the evils around you. It's a really fascinating look into the question, "What if Evil won... what then?" It is such a fantastic setting, really well-written.
And while I prefer turn-based, I think it has a better take on PoE's combat. There's less variety, but they balance out the amount of enounters way better, and do some great work with itemisation.
I'm still holding out on a Tyranny sequel/xpac.
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Would have been awful to end a game that way without a follow up.
The game is pretty broken balance wise. Magic gets broken if you dump all your points in lore since you stack so many properties together that the game obviously didn't expect you would be able too. I was a magic based MC and with Lantry in the same team you can simply alternate casting the same OP spells again and again and time them so one copy is available while the other is on cooldown so you keep the enemies proned and debuffed for the whole fight. The cooldown system made it so that you can spam them every fight too. You can keep stacking all artifacts active abilities on top of all your debuffs so the game gets really easy. The battles are all the same and boring since you fight the same 4-5 enemies over and over again depending on the choice you made and all the maps while small are filled with boring thrash mobs like if the battle planner had Ctrl+C and Ctrl+V keys stuck on his keyboard.
The game is truly great for it's setting, writing and characters but it's really bad gameplay wise imo.
it's a good game, and it's streamlined in pretty good ways so yeah, probably a good starter
pillars of eternity is really good for that too
if u want something a bit less traditional both dragon age origins and the witcher games are really good
oh yea that's what i meant
my opinion on it so far is that it kind of feels like a big dlc for the first one
like it doesn't feel like a sprawling globetroting story like dx1 or dxhr, it's just like a smaller side story that probably won't really matter in the grand scheme of things?
just the base game, i'm just bad at names
i was looking forward to this and dishonored a lot but dishonored runs like hot garbage so i played this instead
it's pretty ok if you don't waste as much time as i did just ocd exploring prague
i don't think the quest itself was that good but montag is just too likeable of a character
i actually don't mind the main story that much, it mostly feels like really low stakes specially compared to dx1 and dxhr
those games were a lot larger and complex, this one feels like a side story
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May the total waaagh never end.
Which reminds me, I still need to jump into the Grand Campaign to try out the two new factions they added recently. Bretonnia and the Vampire Counts splinter faction (Von Carstein, I think is their name).
I do think it does a much better job with item progression and such though. The items you get are just more logical and consistent than in Pillars (unless the expansions change this a lot, never played them). But when the balance is out of whack that's a bummer.
Which reminds me, I still need to jump into the Grand Campaign to try out the two new factions they added recently. Bretonnia and the Vampire Counts splinter faction (Von Carstein, I think is their name).
Darn, I wasn't aware of this. I always wanted more lore than I had. (I also didn't finish it and lost my save, so maybe I narrowly missed this threshold).
I do think it does a much better job with item progression and such though. The items you get are just more logical and consistent than in Pillars (unless the expansions change this a lot, never played them). But when the balance is out of whack that's a bummer.
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I keep forgetting that the new Dawn of War is in like a month.
Loved Dawn of War 2, loved Chaos Rising? I think that was the one.
But I hated the repitition of Retribution using the reinforcement groups enough to make me completely drop the game, you had less build interaction and was kind of stripped away everything I like about the former two games. That said I loved starcraft and this looks like it's going more to the route of Warcraft 3 which I also love so with the mythos and charisma of Warhammer I hope it's great.
Loved Dawn of War 2, loved Chaos Rising? I think that was the one.
But I hated the repitition of Retribution using the reinforcement groups enough to make me completely drop the game, you had less build interaction and was kind of stripped away everything I like about the former two games. That said I loved starcraft and this looks like it's going more to the route of Warcraft 3 which I also love so with the mythos and charisma of Warhammer I hope it's great.
Dawn of War 2 (and Chaos Rising, and Retribution) has zero building, its all hero unit based, so you are getting your Dawn of Wars mixed up
No I know only DoW1 had base building, what I meant to say is I hated Retribution trying to meet the half-way point of mass unit management by having throw away group units that you had to manage and by doing so they also destroyed Hero customization and made it streamlined and empty imo. DoW2 just had heroes which is fine to me when you stick to a simple concept and make sure it's deep enough to have a blast rather than trying to expand like Retribution which in pure gameplay aspects felt like it expanded into empty fluff. Warcraft 3 perfected the formula of half and half hero/basebuilding/massunits design, so hopefully DoW3 can do something similar if not better in its own way.
Damn... That looks like they changed their engine. Almost looks like it's using Unreal 4.
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It is using UE4.
Atraveller
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Being a map janitor in Dawn of War 2 is not really that fun. I'd like to hear some GAF impressions before I make any purchase decision.
It is Unreal 4
. The ports were already nice before, they're going to be almost perfect now . I wish more japanese devs moved to Unreal, would be nice.Chairmanchuck
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It is Unreal 4
Thats the thing I dont get though about japanese devs. Ports of small studios are mostly really really good, while big devs seem to struggle.
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