Nah, those should get in as well. Fuck having someone decide what you can or can't buy on Steam.
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STEAM | May 2016 - VAC to life, VAC to reality
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Chairmanchuck
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I know about that. Even before that when he was defending the curation process he said he wouldnt want the store to become a new app store where every shitty app could be uploaded.
I think my complaint/fear is that Steam will be full of shovelware. I really loved the rumor about the two storefronts. One normal storefront, another one where all games are, but only the ones popular enough would be moved to the "normal" one.
Regginator
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so you're from australia then?
from what i know the us, canada and australia are the biggest countries that call it soccer, and from what i understand both the us and canada don't consider soccer/football to be the most supported sport (american fooball/rugby and ice hockey respectively)
and i think rugby is more popular than football in australia as well
Dusk Golem
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If it means anything, I do think there will be some quality control, and in some ways there's signs Valve is doing this, though it's currently based on the popularity of new releases on release day/the day after. I do think Valve has been thinking long and hard about this, though. I expect it will eventually go to Open Market, but I also think it's not going to let EVERYTHING through, but it is to be seen.
I'm also curious how they'll handle the software/film firms on Valve, and how they may split their storefront, though.
Pretty sure he's from Argentina and I would say the final is highly watched all over Latin America.
I know I'm watching it, lol. It's on public TV.
PetriP-TNT
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Finished NEDM 2016, took around 8 hours. What a great campaign and still tons of secrets to find too!
If I could add one thing, it would be an overlay map so I wouldn't have to TAB into a menu constantly.
If I could add one thing, it would be an overlay map so I wouldn't have to TAB into a menu constantly.
derExperte
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disgusting
Only Germany winning the Euro can save football now.
Only Germany winning the Euro can save football now.
Stumpokapow
listen to the mad man
I think there are basically two groups of people who use Steam:
- Normal people who own a few dozen, maybe a hundred, games total. For these people, there being a ton of crap on Steam is kinda irrelevant. The discovery tools are good enough not to recommend utter slop, and most of them aren't using the discovery tools much anyway. There's little evidence that you can't launch a break-out hit that reaches this audience today. So the actual total number of games on Steam is not super relevant.
- People like us who go through the discovery queue all the time, check new releases, try to collect thousands of games, buy tons of z-tier bundles, look for "hidden gems" by browsing huge swaths of the catalogue every sale, use Enhanced Steam, etc. For people like us, there probably is a palpable negative to allowing absolute and utter garbage to release on Steam because it impacts the experience we like of exhaustively going through Steam. I find it pretty mind-numbing that when I check my discovery queue I have to work through dozens or hundreds of games that I'd never even be in the ballpark of considering. On the other hand, it's because I've cleared the entire discovery queue and I subject myself to this.
I think you could fix the issues for the latter group by allowing them more control, for example:
- Mark all games by this developer "not interested"
- Mark all games with the following tags "not interested"
- Mark all games with user reviews under <x> "not interested"
- Mark all software/videos "not interested"
- Do not show be reviews from <x reviewer> (or just make it so that ignoring someone actually ignores them)
- Permanently hide this game and never show it to me ever again even if I search for it
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Companies are normally pretty scared to do this. Same way Twitter lets you say "not interested" to whatever discovery crap or moments or whatever they're trying to sell you, but never lets you fully turn it off. They feel like people will opt out widespread and they'll lose the value of their features. But I actually think these kinds of features would only be used by power-users who probably actually do mostly self-directed, research-oriented browsing. So you're not actually hurting your sales, because they weren't going to buy that stuff anyway, but rather just making their browsing experience better.
- Normal people who own a few dozen, maybe a hundred, games total. For these people, there being a ton of crap on Steam is kinda irrelevant. The discovery tools are good enough not to recommend utter slop, and most of them aren't using the discovery tools much anyway. There's little evidence that you can't launch a break-out hit that reaches this audience today. So the actual total number of games on Steam is not super relevant.
- People like us who go through the discovery queue all the time, check new releases, try to collect thousands of games, buy tons of z-tier bundles, look for "hidden gems" by browsing huge swaths of the catalogue every sale, use Enhanced Steam, etc. For people like us, there probably is a palpable negative to allowing absolute and utter garbage to release on Steam because it impacts the experience we like of exhaustively going through Steam. I find it pretty mind-numbing that when I check my discovery queue I have to work through dozens or hundreds of games that I'd never even be in the ballpark of considering. On the other hand, it's because I've cleared the entire discovery queue and I subject myself to this.
I think you could fix the issues for the latter group by allowing them more control, for example:
- Mark all games by this developer "not interested"
- Mark all games with the following tags "not interested"
- Mark all games with user reviews under <x> "not interested"
- Mark all software/videos "not interested"
- Do not show be reviews from <x reviewer> (or just make it so that ignoring someone actually ignores them)
- Permanently hide this game and never show it to me ever again even if I search for it
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I don't have VR hardware and don't want VR hardware and I'm honestly telling you the truth and in the mean time don't show me VR games and I promise I'll turn this option off if I ever buy VR hardware I respect you Valve and Vive sounds great but I'm not going to buy it so stop showing me everything VR related
Companies are normally pretty scared to do this. Same way Twitter lets you say "not interested" to whatever discovery crap or moments or whatever they're trying to sell you, but never lets you fully turn it off. They feel like people will opt out widespread and they'll lose the value of their features. But I actually think these kinds of features would only be used by power-users who probably actually do mostly self-directed, research-oriented browsing. So you're not actually hurting your sales, because they weren't going to buy that stuff anyway, but rather just making their browsing experience better.
Se7enSword
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So savage rofl
derExperte
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no, i just call it soccer cos it's what's commonly used around neogaf
i know a bunch of ppl that watch the champions league and i know many more than don't
it's a big deal, but only for ppl that are way into soccer and that's not everybody
The Dear Leader
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You guys aren't going to believe this, someone broke into my mom's house, went down to the basement were I live, somehow logged onto my PC, and bought Overwatch Origins Edition with my credit card somehow, nothing was stolen weirdly, I honestly can't believe it. I'm going to file a police report because I feel violated. I guess I should try out this Overwatch game since I have it now...
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Regginator
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Groupees - The 50 #7 - $0.50
- Betrayer
- RoBoRumble
- Apothecarium: The Renaissance of Evil - Premium Edition
- Bloodbath Kavkaz
- Showing Tonight: Mindhunters Incident
- Throne Rushers (greenlight)
+ some music
- Betrayer
- RoBoRumble
- Apothecarium: The Renaissance of Evil - Premium Edition
- Bloodbath Kavkaz
- Showing Tonight: Mindhunters Incident
- Throne Rushers (greenlight)
+ some music
Jawmuncher
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So many mad people who are just gonna play the game for a week.
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So... they would rather kill the guy than wait for it to come out?
Lashley
Why does he wear the mask!?
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Ah, small section of 'gamers' showing themselves up yet again
I think Betrayer may now hold the title for "most bundled."
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paperspace
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Gain what? Weight? If so, that's actually not that bad.
We have posted about some of those greenlight games in this thread.
To name just two, Ruin of the Reckless and Demoniaca.
I don't feel like going through the whole list to check which ones I simply voted on and which I (or D3RANG3D or someone else) also posted on here (did we post about Carpe Diem Reboot? or The Unfortunate Adventures of Rox Willful?), but just looking at my activity list I have some of the ones I followed showing up with posts about getting greenlit, so I'd say that it's more a question of willful ignorance. You can't know any of those games if you don't go and look for them in the shit-pile that is greenlight (and I don't blame anyone for not going in there, there is a lot of crap).
No idea what you're talking aboot.
Jawmuncher
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Do Keyboards only last 5 years?
Does it matter if you set the keyboard on chairs, or if you put the mouse on the floor?
ok gta 5 is not so bad
mashing a to run is still stupid and the controller bindings are kind of awful, but i'm warming up to it
glad to see the fake internet is still around and that you can still interact with atms, even if you can't buy hotdogs on stands anymore.
the writing is so far super cringey and these early missions are pretty boring but i play it for the era snapshot and that feels pretty ok
mashing a to run is still stupid and the controller bindings are kind of awful, but i'm warming up to it
glad to see the fake internet is still around and that you can still interact with atms, even if you can't buy hotdogs on stands anymore.
the writing is so far super cringey and these early missions are pretty boring but i play it for the era snapshot and that feels pretty ok
jshackles
Gentlemen, we can rebuild it. We have the capability to make the world's first enhanced store. Steam will be that store. Better than it was before.
I think I can do this using Enhanced Steam, I'll have to run some tests. I believe the XHR request for adding a game to your "Not Interested" list only accepts one argument, so pressing "Mark all games by this developer as not interested" for something like SEGA would result in hundreds of AJAX requests.
There also wouldn't really be a way to reverse the process, without going into the store pages manually, unless I built another function to remove all of a publisher/developer's games from the not interested list.
its definitely up there with Data Hacker, Lucius, Memories of a Vagabond, Volt or Elements: Souls of fire, but i cant shake off the feeling that the title would belong to Vanguard Princess
Should've gone with "won't be left for dead... 2".
Jawmuncher
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It made up ten fold for the disappointment that was GTA4 for me. Ended up really enjoying GTAV. Though it does start a little slow.
Nyteshade517
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Ori Definitive Edition is showing as full price now instead of the reduced price for previous owners that was supposed to be permanent...dev on Steam said they are looking into it so just a heads up
someguyinahat
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And the thing is...it's actually not that bad a game, either. It's kinda tough, but what I played of it seemed fine to me.
Phawx
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Yea, it's an okay game. The one thing I found weird was they added an option to remove the filter of the game. But the original selling point of the game was it's style.
My memory is hazy on it so don't quote me.
Its average at best. Granted I played it a long time ago so maybe they improved upon some things. It is however much better than most games that are bundled.
freshVeggie
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Yeah I watched it. Much better than the last time 2014. Atletico got a lot better. Both played well and deserved it, so it's not that unfair that it was decided in penalties. Was pretty shocked how many players took slow shots though and still none was saved, haha.
Nice. Sounds good. Thanks for head-lighting this. Wasn't much aware of it.
Played 30 minutes of Shrouded in Sanity. It wears it's Souls, well more Bloodborne, on it's sleeve, proudly in fact, however, even though the mechanics of the combat is very Bloodborne, it has closer to a Castlevania motif too it. There is shortcuts that I noticed so far like a Souls game as well. Combat is a little odd to get used to but, that comes with the territory, might be because it's a 2D game rather than 3D game, as well.
Only real gripe, that I didn't know was that playing with a keyboard is just that. Playing with a keyboard. There is no mouse controls which surprised me. Granted, after taking some time with the controls I see it has no use for a mouse. It's just been a long time since I played something that was a pure keyboard game. There is controller support and it's shown as the first one when you pause the game so maybe down the line I switch to one of my controllers, since that might be the way to go. Seems fine so far though.
Yeah I'll keep chipping away at this, it's got style to it although it feels a bit rough at spots, so far anyway but, it seems cool.
PS: Rolling in this game feels so good.
There are weird trolls out there.
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someguyinahat
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You're correct. The default setting is b/w with red, but you can set it to full colour, or even use a slider to make it muted colour if you want a little of column A and a little of column B.
Stumpokapow
listen to the mad man
I think the thing is that you'd also want it to be forward-looking i.e. if Waifusoft releases "I Haven't Left My Bedroom In 5 Weeks Because I Love 4chan Too Much", and I say "No, I am confident I never want to see anything from this company from now until the end of time", and then they release 6 more games next week, I want it to be able to skip those as well. I think that's tougher to do by hacking it on your end. You could keep a cache of vote no scenarios and if the store page ever loaded sans-vote, it could vote no and say next, or whatever, but it's hard to tell what a user intends in that case so it's not ideal.
LurkerPrime
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They did; it also doubled a colour blind filter. E.g Giant Bomb did a Quick Look and one of the staff is red colour blind, so the game's style was... rather lost on him.
My most requested feature of the Discovery Queue would be to able to filter it by genre or tag. I don't need the games to be marked as "Not Interested", because there is the possibility that someday in the future I might want a game from a certain genre, and in that case, I will have found out about it from some other source (GAF, podcast, media site) and will directly seek it out again.
But I know from my own tastes that I will likely never buy a Visual Novel, MMO, Point & Click game, or RPGMaker game, so I don't want to have to click through 8 of them on my queue to see something I might actually want. But I also don't want those games obliterated from my storefront, because I will probably buy, say, Dangonronpa sometime down the road.
But I know from my own tastes that I will likely never buy a Visual Novel, MMO, Point & Click game, or RPGMaker game, so I don't want to have to click through 8 of them on my queue to see something I might actually want. But I also don't want those games obliterated from my storefront, because I will probably buy, say, Dangonronpa sometime down the road.
Enter the Dragon Punch
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got back from work two and a half hours late
will decide Rocket League winner in 45 mins, after dragon ball super airs
will decide Rocket League winner in 45 mins, after dragon ball super airs
BoosterDuck
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but Dragon Ball Super episodes are 21 minutes long
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