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STEAM | May 2017 - Praeying for Dino Crisis
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Probably, but those games won't even be there, cards are literally their only profit.
Think of devs selling keys for a cent or two on sites like SteamGrounds for botters. Bundle sites use those as fillers to up game count.
Baron_Calamity
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Can get to humble at work. What in it?
Steamworld heist and Ziggurat are very good, don't know the other one
$1: Ziggurat, Windward, Steamworld Heist,
BTA: Kentucky Route Zero, Beholder, Goat Simulator GOATY,
$13: Owlboy
Plus more added week two at BTA. The BTA price has gone up from moment zero...nothing below starting price as far as I can see.
ThirtyFour
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Steamworld Heist in the first tier is good value, great game.
Baron_Calamity
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Very nice! Going all in.
Large Professor
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Your friendly reminder that all monthly games are probably going to end up in a normal bundle at some point.
Anyway, great bundle. Owlboy is an awesome game.
Anyway, great bundle. Owlboy is an awesome game.
Polygon was right for once
AcademicSaucer
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SteamWorld Heist is a great game, there is no excuse at that price
Baron von Loathsome
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Hold up, hey, for Humble who's been acting too bold
Take a seat, hope they've finished the next episode
the_firewithin
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damn i own everything besides owlboy. maybe ill wait until more games are added and see
Ziggurat finally in a bundle. Nice.
NOLF 2 has issues running with really high resolution that makes the game crashes on start. I can get around that with selecting 1080p in game and forcing higher res with dgvoodoo 2. After that the game runs great with widescreen patches, force AA at 4K. NOLF 1 with jackfuste's widescreen patch runs fine. But the FPS drop when zooming with a sniper rifle is an issue and I can't seem to find a fix that works.
Some screenshots I took: http://imgur.com/a/3FqWX
That's what I did for NOLF 1, 2, Wolfenstein 2009. What's wrong with RtCW on steam though?
NOLF 2 has issues running with really high resolution that makes the game crashes on start. I can get around that with selecting 1080p in game and forcing higher res with dgvoodoo 2. After that the game runs great with widescreen patches, force AA at 4K. NOLF 1 with jackfuste's widescreen patch runs fine. But the FPS drop when zooming with a sniper rifle is an issue and I can't seem to find a fix that works.
Some screenshots I took: http://imgur.com/a/3FqWX
That's what I did for NOLF 1, 2, Wolfenstein 2009. What's wrong with RtCW on steam though?
That sounds good in theory.
I just hope legit niche games that just aren't selling well won't be affected by this. I swear, if games like House in Fata Morgana would've been affacted by this system, then fuck right off.
Otherwise, carry on.
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$1 tier seems pretty great. BTA too, but those games aren't really my thing not. Not wanting Owlboy enough to justify tier 3.
Great bundle though.
You're right, same here.
InquisitorAles
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And some people here were doubting me when few months ago i posted here huge post about this situation with fake games, that was created only to take app id for card farms. Some people found it hard to believe that there was a huge card farms market at all, because "the idea that anyone is getting "huge profits from cards" is laughable". And now Valve stepped in and publicly admitted that there was indeed such problem and they're finally going to do something with this situation. I'm actually surprised that they really going to do this because they were getting cut from all those card farms.
Baron von Loathsome
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Sonic the Hedgehog was a mistake.
Jawmuncher
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Sounds like shit TBQH.
How will this metric work for smaller games that still have a fanbase?
Jawmuncher
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Sounds like shit TBQH.
How will this metric work for smaller games that still have a fanbase?
I don't get what valve gets out of this. Yeah stop bundle trash perhaps, but isn't that what steam Direct should already be doing?
If memory serves, people didn't think you were making up a fairy tale, just disagreeing that it was a serious problem. I fell largely into the latter camp myself (with regard to the matter in general, that is, not your post specifically), however I'm happy to admit that Valve's point about card farm accounts playing silly buggers with the store's recommendation systems and creating unreliable data is actually something I hadn't previously considered.
Father_Brain
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Windward and Heist aren't my usual cup of tea, but at least look moderately intriguing. Beholder and Kentucky Route Zero are already on my wishlist. And I really, really want Owlboy, so this is one of the few bundles I've bought at the top tier. Hope next week's additions are good.
I already own these two, though, so have at 'em.
I already own these two, though, so have at 'em.
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Yeah, this will flop. Fake devs will find a way to game the new algorithm, users will be upset because small, legitimate indie games won't drop cards and obviously this will also affect the bottomline of these developers. They are trying way too hard to solve their problems with algorithms, how about, you know, get a team of 3 people together to check if a game is a pure asset flip before allowing it on the store?
E: Did somebody also randomly receive a gift copy of Little Racers STREET? Seems like it happened when I activated the humble keys.
MushroomSamba
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Getting the bundle for Steamworld Heist, but Owlboy has me considering the top tier...hmm, awfully tempting.
Steam Direct replacing Greenlight and representing a slightly(?) higher barrier to entry is only going to be so effective.
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uncredited male
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They probably should of focused on the card issue from the beginning as that is the primary cause of all the shit.
InquisitorAles
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Of course there was replies about fake games are not being a big problem, and there was discussion about it too. But that "the idea that anyone is getting "huge profits from cards" is laughable" part is literal quote from some of replies i got when i tried to explain situation with asset flips and fake games in March 2017 thread. I'm just glad that i don't need to prove that those card farms exists in the first place. Still, I'm curious too see how that new "algorithm" would work, probably it'll be somehow connected with achievements and steam overlay activity.
But it earns them millions without doing anything.
I'd rather there be a "drop cards" button so I don't have to idle anything. Then you run into the refund issue. There's really no good solution.
Ahh. I edited a .cfg file to get higher resolutions, I didn't use widescreen because things like the sniper crosshairs don't account for it.
arts&crafts
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I wonder if this will take affect proactively (Steam cards) I have hundreds of dollars to idle still!
Phawx
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Microsoft's RTS collection on Steam now includes Halo Wars
http://store.steampowered.com/bundl...iresAge_of_MythologyRise_of_NationsHalo_Wars/
http://store.steampowered.com/bundl...iresAge_of_MythologyRise_of_NationsHalo_Wars/
laserlaser
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Got keys to trade for goat sim. Any takers?
InquisitorAles
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Awesome, still need to get AoE2/AoM expansions though, hoping for good discount on summer sale.
Jawmuncher
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Don't protect them JaseC. As polygon said Gaben isn't your friend. Or he'd have given you a copy of wheelman.
But in all seriousness. I get what it's going for, but I feel there would be a better way about this. We have to see it doesn't affect smaller games. I'd be mad as hell if stuff like Red Haze can't have card drops because "not enough people are playing it". Despite it being a wholly original game.
IMHO $1 tier is way better than BTA, but then again I already have Kentucky and we haven't seen second week additions yet.
uncredited male
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So it looks like there are two types of developer abusers of the card system. Developers who make games to be sold for near nothing and get a cut of card sales from users who make a net profit when selling the cards. This is hamstrung by demand for the cards.
And a more insidious version which generate keys that are then bot farmed by themselves. I guess they also have the option to gem them as well. The gained store credit used to go to gifts to be sold but obviously not anymore.
And a more insidious version which generate keys that are then bot farmed by themselves. I guess they also have the option to gem them as well. The gained store credit used to go to gifts to be sold but obviously not anymore.
illusionary
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Yeah, I had it pegged as a Monthly game too... still, this means that there's more room for other games in the Monthlies, which is no bad thing.
Now, next to hope for Hollow Knight to show up eventually (or in a sale)...
ramoisdead
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Kotaku asking what we are all thinking as of recent: Why hasn't Nier Automata on PC haven't been patched yet?
Totilo responded saying Squeenix will have a statement on that very soon.
Totilo responded saying Squeenix will have a statement on that very soon.
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