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STEAM | October 2014 - Proper PC gamers buy a Wii U and Bayonetta 2

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Arthea

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I can believe that. Avatar the Last Airbender is one of the best american made cartoon in a while. And the Legend of Korra did not disappoint so far.

I'm pretty sure a lot more people know more about Avatar/Korra than Bayonetta. If they even know Bayonetta at all.

but do those people play games? That's the question we should ask.
 

wetflame

Pizza Dog
Is that Avatar thing pretty popular in the US then? I think I know that Korra is a character from that from seeing it mentioned on here, but I wouldn't know otherwise. I don't think it's big in the UK. Unless I'm just not in the right age bracket for it, I'm 30. I don't think anyone I know is familiar with it but I'm sure it's probably shown on TV here somewhere. Would people know that Korra is an Avatar thing if they'd only heard of Avatar? Then again, I don't think I know anyone who'd be picking up Bayonetta 2 so I'm not sure whose side I'm supporting. I think most of the people I know would be a little embarrassed picking up Bayonetta if they saw it.
 
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These guys have got to be kidding. Korra/Avatar is a series popular enough to have 7 seasons. There's no way in hell Bayonetta, a softcore porn game that only appeals to the most hardcore of fedora-wearing nerds, has more name recognition in any demographic aside from fedoras.

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Dr Dogg

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calling on the techheads, can you SLI Mordor, Ryse, Metro Redux / Last Light, FF13, Batman Oranges?

In terms of offical support in the drivers without you having to do anything? Mordor - No, Ryse - No, Metro 2033 and Last Light vanilla/Redux - Yes/Yes. Final Fantasy XIII - No and Arkham Origins - Yes.

You can use workaround for Mordor and Ryse that will involve using Nvidia Inspector and amending the settings there to get them to work but solutions to either don't scale properly and have rendering errors unlike officially supported profiles. According to someone at WB/Monolith they are working on it for Mordor and I'd expect Crytek to get something sorted for Ryse in the very near future. Then again you might not be as fussy as me as can live with the side effects. Dead Rising 3 for example won't get support from Capcom Vancover but does work using the SLI bits from Arkham Origins but scale only between 60-90% of your cards and you have to lower shadow quality not to have a flickering light show going on.

Final Fantasy XIII to be fair I doubt anybody has tried as it doesn't exactly need a high end card to run high resolutions let alone 2. Plus being an engine with only a handful of releases on PC there's not a lot of existing games to go on and both FXIV and DQX don't officially support SLI. Then again I was running 3840x2160 on a single 780 without any trouble until one area and then after I got out of that it went back to 60fps (well until the HUD and damage numbers shits the bed).
 

wetflame

Pizza Dog
lol why? It's not like picking up a spongebob videogame or stuff like that.

Well, I admittedly don't know much about the game, but it looks like a sexy schoolteacher lady whose hair is her clothes and it comes off her to attack people? Is that right? Imagine telling someone who doesn't play games that that's the game you're buying. They'd probably be embarrassed buying a Spongebob game too, but for different reasons.
 

Card Boy

Banned
These guys have got to be kidding. Korra/Avatar is a series popular enough to have 7 seasons. There's no way in hell Bayonetta, a softcore porn game that only appeals to the most hardcore of fedora-wearing nerds, has more name recognition in any demographic aside from fedoras.

This made me laugh because it's true, i would of added neckbeards in as-well.
 

aku:jiki

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Well, I admittedly don't know much about the game, but it looks like a sexy schoolteacher lady whose hair is her clothes and it comes off her to attack people? Is that right? Imagine telling someone who doesn't play games that that's the game you're buying. They'd probably be embarrassed buying a Spongebob game too, but for different reasons.
That's exactly what it is, but gamers have decided that Bayonetta is "empowering", and not embarassing and sexist, for no logical reason whatsoever. I'm not sure the rest of the world agrees and I would never be seen holding a copy of it.
 
oh that's not what I was talking about, of course it'll outsell Bayo, not only it will be available everywhere, it's cheap compared to Bayo. We were talking about popularity of Korra vs Bayo.
From Wikipedia:
The premiere averaged 4.5 million viewers ranking it as basic cable's number-one kids' show and top animated program for the week with total viewers. The Legend of Korra also ranks as the network's most-watched animated series premiere in three years. Book One: Air drew an average of 3.8 million viewers per episode. This was the highest audience total for an animated series in the United States in 2012. Book Two: Spirits premiered with 2.6 million viewers. Suggested explanations for the reduced number of broadcast viewers were: the long period between seasons, a change in time slot (Friday evening instead of Saturday morning), the increased availability of digital download services, and generally reduced ratings for the Nickelodeon channel. Book Three: Change aired on short notice in June 2014 after Spanish-language versions of some episodes were leaked on the Internet. Because of the rushed release, the season premiered with 1.5 million viewers. After declining TV ratings in the third season, Nickelodeon stopped airing the series on television and shifted its distribution to online outlets, where the show had proven to be much more successful.
Shame that Nick treats the show like shit, screwed up Book 3's schedule and Book 4 was not aired on cable at all.
But how many of the mods are 'informing' GAF about Korra?

Be interesting to see what happens to those that buy Korra but don't get a WiiU & Bayonetta 2.
Don't ban me Zeliard!
 

Shadownet

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Is that Avatar thing pretty popular in the US then? I think I know that Korra is a character from that from seeing it mentioned on here, but I wouldn't know otherwise. I don't think it's big in the UK. Unless I'm just not in the right age bracket for it, I'm 30. I don't think anyone I know is familiar with it but I'm sure it's probably shown on TV here somewhere. Would people know that Korra is an Avatar thing if they'd only heard of Avatar? Then again, I don't think I know anyone who'd be picking up Bayonetta 2 so I'm not sure whose side I'm supporting. I think most of the people I know would be a little embarrassed picking up Bayonetta if they saw it.

I think Avatar and Korra has it largest fan base here in the US. Maybe some in Canada and Japan. But yeah I wouldn't expect that many people to know about it outside of the US. The two shows appear on Nickelodeon which is a kids-teens channel. So I would put most of the demographic between 8-25. But its not unheard of to hear about older fans since the two shows deal with a lot of real world problems, political and all that, mixed in a fantasy setting.

Though I have to say Avatar was geared more toward 10-15 years old, while Korra presents more mature themes and conflicts, more for 16+.

I'm guessing its the creators way of letting the franchise grow with it audience.
I highly recommend it to everyone, if you aren't one of those people who hates anime/cartoon. I think you would love Avatar/Korra. Just make sure you watch it in order.

but do those people play games? That's the question we should ask.
Its the 21st century, unless you live in a very poor developing country, living in poverty or Amish. There are a lot of people that play video games. And yes Angry Birds included.
 

Kuroyume

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No one gives a shit that you're not buying Bayonetta. And if you're that spinless that you really can't enjoy something because of what someone would think then you're not really going to have much of a life.

And I'm saying this as someone who won't buy Bayonetta because I don't own a Wii U. And I don't buy scantily clad anime stuff either. But I wouldn't hesitate if I wanted to.
 

Shadownet

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No one gives a shit that you're not buying Bayonetta. And if you're that spinless that you really can't enjoy something because of what someone would think then you're not really going to have much of a life.

And I'm saying this as someone who won't buy Bayonetta because I don't own a Wii U. And I don't buy scantily clad anime stuff either. But I wouldn't hesitate if I wanted to.

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I don't think anyone here have a problem with anyone who want to buy Bayonetta. And if you wanna buy softcore anime stuff then that's your business and freedom to of course.

Just like Milamber has the freedom to play those games he loves so much.
 
That's exactly what it is, but gamers have decided that Bayonetta is "empowering", and not embarassing and sexist, for no logical reason whatsoever. I'm not sure the rest of the world agrees and I would never be seen holding a copy of it.
Some people on gaf think their favorite Japanese developers can do no wrong, so they would defend them to their last breaths.

Search MGSV Quiet's design thread for more examples.

Regarding The Legend of Korra: the late embargo is making me nervous. PG's other October game had early embargo.
It has an embargo date? I thought it was just lack of coverage in general.
 

eyeless

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These guys have got to be kidding. Korra/Avatar is a series popular enough to have 7 seasons. There's no way in hell Bayonetta, a softcore porn game that only appeals to the most hardcore of fedora-wearing nerds, has more name recognition in any demographic aside from fedoras.
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Sendou

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It has an embargo date? I thought it was just lack of coverage in general.

It's just too quiet to even consider a possibility that there wasn't one. IGN for example has covered the game up until now with dev interviews and whatnot so a review is the natural follow-up to that.
 
It's just too quiet to even consider a possibility that there wasn't one. IGN for example has covered the game up until now with dev interviews and whatnot so a review is the natural follow-up to that.
*Went to IGN to check it out*
So there's an "It exists" article, one very early hands-on, screenshot article that contains very little information and Activision's promo videos.

Not getting reviews super early is not unexpected.
 

aku:jiki

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No one gives a shit that you're not buying Bayonetta. And if you're that spinless that you really can't enjoy something because of what someone would think then you're not really going to have much of a life.
I'm saying that I wouldn't be caught dead with it because I agree with the people who would be silently judging me for it, and I'd judge anyone I saw picking it up too.
 

Sendou

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Didnt Destiny Transistor have a late embargo too and turn out to be awesome in the end?

The Last of Us is another notable example.

I mean you can't give them money for it in steam yet even if you wanted to so it probably isn't that big of a deal.

But you can on PSN and XBL.

*Went to IGN to check it out*
So there's an "It exists" article, one very early hands-on, screenshot article that contains very little information and Activision's promo videos.

Not getting reviews super early is not unexpected.

What do you mean super early? It's coming out tomorrow.
 

ArjanN

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These guys have got to be kidding. Korra/Avatar is a series popular enough to have 7 seasons. There's no way in hell Bayonetta, a softcore porn game that only appeals to the most hardcore of fedora-wearing nerds, has more name recognition in any demographic aside from fedoras.

Wow, this is a super embarrassing post, even if I give you the benefit of the doubt of being sarcastic.

You're right in that Korra/Avatar is of course vastly more widely known.
Even the shittiest cartoon on TV is going to have more mainstream name recognition than a niche video game series, and Avatar also had a live action movie.

Hell, I'm pretty sure that original Avatar game known for having easy achievements outsold Bayonetta 1.

Of course that doesn't mean it all translates into video game sales.
 

Shadownet

Banned
Nevermind apparently I spoke too soon.

I honestly wouldn't pay much attention to aku:jiki when he's like this. If someone wanna buy Bayonetta 2 then why would you need to judge them? From what I've heard so far, it seem like a great game, and yes it has some fan service and suggestive theme. But in perspective its not the even close to one of the most offending games ever.

Personally I can't even fanthom anyone that like playing rogue-like games. Because failing over and over again only to succeed little by little isn't fun to me. But I wouldn't ridicule or judge anyone that like to play those kind of games. Its what they enjoy.

I'm sure some people think JaseC is crazy for being so into Assassin's Creed but I have a soft spot for it as well. Also we might tease Milamber about his guilty pleasure but we truly don't care.

In the end, honestly? Screw anyone who think you should be ashamed of what games you chose to play, you're not offending or hurting anyone. Just ignore those people that like judging others for something so meaningless.
 

Dr Dogg

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Hmmm so let's have a show of hands.

  • If Korra got a load of reviews out today and said it wasn't to their tastes how many of you would buy it anyway because of PlatinumGames' past titles?
  • If it got polarizing reviews how many of you would wait for user impressions or buy it regardless?
  • If it scored top marks across the board but it turned out to be not to your tastes how many of you would criticise the reviewers?
  • How many of you are looking out for a reviewer you can trust their opinion on the kind of game Korra is and are they a professional reviewer or just an average chump like us?
 

hohoXD123

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Hmmm so let's have a show of hands.

  • If Korra got a load of reviews out today and said it wasn't to their tastes how many of you would buy it anyway because of PlatinumGames' past titles?
  • If it got polarizing reviews how many of you would wait for user impressions or buy it regardless?
  • If it scored top marks across the board but it turned out to be not to your tastes how many of you would criticise the reviewers?
  • How many of you are looking out for a reviewer you can trust their opinion on the kind of game Korra is and are they a professional reviewer or just an average chump like us?
I'd probably wait on user impressions. They haven't failed me before.
Edit: oh what am I saying, it's a korra game made by Platinum, that shit is mine.
 

Shadownet

Banned
Hmmm so let's have a show of hands.

  • If Korra got a load of reviews out today and said it wasn't to their tastes how many of you would buy it anyway because of PlatinumGames' past titles?
  • If it got polarizing reviews how many of you would wait for user impressions or buy it regardless?
  • If it scored top marks across the board but it turned out to be not to your tastes how many of you would criticise the reviewers?
  • How many of you are looking out for a reviewer you can trust their opinion on the kind of game Korra is and are they a professional reviewer or just an average chump like us?

I'm most likely going to buy it regardless not because of Platinum but because I'm a huge fan of the series. Even if the reviews are extremely bad.
 

Arthea

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Hmmm so let's have a show of hands.

  • If Korra got a load of reviews out today and said it wasn't to their tastes how many of you would buy it anyway because of PlatinumGames' past titles?
  • If it got polarizing reviews how many of you would wait for user impressions or buy it regardless?
  • If it scored top marks across the board but it turned out to be not to your tastes how many of you would criticise the reviewers?
  • How many of you are looking out for a reviewer you can trust their opinion on the kind of game Korra is and are they a professional reviewer or just an average chump like us?

you are digging to deep, it's a licensed cheap game, we all will buy it anyway. It's steam thread you are posting in, I feel urge to remind you!
I still would like to know EU price already
 

xBladeM6x

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Hmmm so let's have a show of hands.

  • If Korra got a load of reviews out today and said it wasn't to their tastes how many of you would buy it anyway because of PlatinumGames' past titles?
  • If it got polarizing reviews how many of you would wait for user impressions or buy it regardless?
  • If it scored top marks across the board but it turned out to be not to your tastes how many of you would criticise the reviewers?
  • How many of you are looking out for a reviewer you can trust their opinion on the kind of game Korra is and are they a professional reviewer or just an average chump like us?

It wouldn't matter if it sucked ass or reviewed poorly. I'm a shameless Korra / Avatar shill, so I'll buy it anyways. Lol
 
Hmmm so let's have a show of hands.

  • If Korra got a load of reviews out today and said it wasn't to their tastes how many of you would buy it anyway because of PlatinumGames' past titles?
  • If it got polarizing reviews how many of you would wait for user impressions or buy it regardless?
  • If it scored top marks across the board but it turned out to be not to your tastes how many of you would criticise the reviewers?
  • How many of you are looking out for a reviewer you can trust their opinion on the kind of game Korra is and are they a professional reviewer or just an average chump like us?
Will buy, reviewers would probably complain about the story being lackluster or something but I don't care, it's a Platinum game, and it's a Platinum Korra game.
 

Ozium

Member
TBH Platinum could probably make the best Biker Mice From Mars video game ever. Actually Platinum should turn all the saturday morning cartoons into video games.

Goddamn now I want a P* BMFM game. Bikes. Guns. Superb bosses and dialog. 3 player COOP

It was called Wonderful 101.

Nobody bought it.
 

Anteater

Member
I sometimes wonder if a platinumgames kickstarter campaign for an action game would meet its goals, and I wonder how much a dmc3 clone (without voice acting or action cutscenes) would cost.
 

Arthea

Member
no but it's pure saturday morning cartoon in vidya gaem form

I feel that exclusivity hurts almost all games these days, one reason is that there are so many games that buying all consoles is no longer sane option, at least that's what I decided after previous gen. OTOH, consoles wouldn't sell if not exclusive games, that's like vicious circle which can't be broken.
 

Shadownet

Banned
no but it's pure saturday morning cartoon in vidya gaem form
I think we all know by now. Unless a Nintendo game fall into one of the following it will probably likely not sale well.

1) critically acclaimed, to Ocarina of Time level.
2) include Mario and/or Zelda characters. Any other Nintendo characters would be a big bonus.
3) some Japanese JRPG that come from a series that has just been resurrected and is carrying all the hype in the world.
 
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