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[cobaltorange]

Basically you are saying consoles have a working business model and PC doesn't.

There was a chart recently, from Forbes, shows PC gaming going down and console going up.

I think that chart needs to be posted more around here. Let me see if I can dig it up.

So, are you ever going to post the chart?

 

[The Cockatrice]

I don't know what you're going on about. Both 23 and 24 had great games. Just because the games aren't genres that don't appeal to you, doesn't mean they're not good.

You must be 10 years old.

 

[Astray]

???

You brought Xbox console Gamepass users to the thread because???

Because this is a playtime thread.

Xbox users playing on Gamepass is counted by Xbox for their statistics (so do PC Gamepass users), Steam has no visibility on PC Gamepass (because it's on an entirely different launcher), so they don't count there.

Hope this helps.

 

[cobaltorange]

You must be 10 years old.

Because...? If you're going to respond, make it have a point.

 

[The Cockatrice]

Because...? If you're going to respond, make it have a point.

Because only someone born recently can claim with a straight face that 2023 and 2024 has better games than the previous golden years, which is what I said in case you missed the point.

 

[Soodanim]

Backlog, older PC, less free time, more interested in smaller games.

4 reason I'm not buying new releases. I can't in good conscience vote for GOTY if I didn't get anything from it.

The newest thing I bought was Shadow of the Erdtree DLC.

 

[cobaltorange]

Because only someone born recently can claim with a straight face that 2023 and 2024 has better games than the previous golden years, which is what I said in case you missed the point.

Well, that's a straw man if I've ever heard one. I never argued that they were better, I just said they still had great games. Regardless, I guess the discussion is pointless, since you think games are on an upswing, seeing as 23 was "far worse" than 24. We are so back!

 

[The Cockatrice]

Well, that's a straw man if I've ever heard one. I never argued that they were better, I just said they still had great games. Regardless, I guess the discussion is pointless, since you think games are on an upswing, seeing as 23 was "far worse" than 24. We are so back!

Yes thats exactly what you argued, because you skipped for obvious reasons my original post in this thread which you misquoted for lacking context, so, not only you can't read, you just wanted to argue nonsensically, nor did I ever claim that games are on an exact downwards line. Just because 2024 had an uptick of better games than the previous year it does not disregard my main claim at all. We are not back at all. The trend is still negative. If the following years continue to raise the bar, then yes, we can say we are back in a few years.

 

[FreeY$L]

Compare this with your typical console roster of games.

Besides, us PC gamers were always better at filtering the slop spewn out by the AAA devs. No settling for mediocrity just because of supporting the "latest thing in the industry".

Lmao only the slop known counter strike knife skins and team fortress 2 hats is accepted by the pc community

 

[Stuart360]

Not just a console vs PCMR angle mate, we all get PC has an extensive BC catalogue but if people spend time playing older games (2023 and older) and not buying games on PC it is not a great trend for publishers.

We know people look for sales everywhere but a stat like this would talk poorly about the value of PC customers for newly released non longeve GaaS titles.

You realise the percentages wouldnt be much better on console right?, and thats with console gamers only having a fraction of the games available to them that PC users have.

Do this same test on console and i bet it would be 20% tops.

All the Fortnites, Overwatches, PUBG's, Warzones, Apex, Minecraft, GTA's etc, are all older than 2024.

 

[poppabk]

Check any uk sales thread.

Will Europe do?

Sales-Age - Europe game sales 2024: dragon age TV, SW Outlaws, FF7 rebirth - all out of top 30

2024 is a rough year for new releases, so far. This is both physical and digital. Their tracking does seem to not include Palworld, Black Myth Wukong, and Balatro though.

www.neogaf.com

 

[sachos]

The thing is with Steam old games get such ludicrous discounts (90%+ in some cases) that you end up with huge collections of "old" AAA games. At some point you gotta start hitting your back catalog. Or be me and just start playing Onimusha series on PCSX2 lol.