Are you suggesting that we'd play the beta for less than two hours?!? It's up for two days, so I'm hoping to at least hit 15 hours.
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STEAM | October 2015 - You had me at "game ... comes to Steam".
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Are you suggesting that we'd play the beta for less than two hours?!? It's up for two days, so I'm hoping to at least hit 15 hours.
Atraveller
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The first 15 minutes of MGSV is the best gaming has to offer.
Baron von Loathsome
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yeah, I've read that and we discussed it here on gaf.
YianGaruga
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And I guess you think he's wrong? I didn't follow the discussion
Gipsy Danger
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Youre right. Not every game will find an audience but as games like Rocket League still show, all it takes is a great idea. There are still plenty of games able to stand out and make their money back. I doubt well get a lot of million seller indies but they dont need to sell a million to be successful. Maybe Im totally wrong but I know that I still invest my money into cool indie games, a lot more than AAA stuff anyway.
lashman
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They want someone to make funnier hats I guess.
Hopefully he doesn't pull a Hawking and leave in 6 months
It means indie market crash in line with Atari shock, what will result in highly reduced numbers of games and devs and many hopes broken. It's doesn't mean that there will be no indie games, if that's what you are thinking.
Atari shock might be a tad overblown example, but I couldn't think of better one.
lashman
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Gipsy Danger
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I didn't realise that SteamDB gives you a price/hr on your steam games. Which is a pretty cool feature to look at.
Ultra Street Fighter IV cost me 22p/hr. Not a bad deal.
Edit: £1.10/hr for MGSV. Played me like a fiddle.
Ultra Street Fighter IV cost me 22p/hr. Not a bad deal.
Edit: £1.10/hr for MGSV. Played me like a fiddle.
YianGaruga
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But why? Thousands of people haven't been making money with game development before, the only difference is that you see those people on Steam as well now. I guess since game development is easier than ever now you see even more people not making money with games though.
No one was calling for an indiepocalypse when the unsuccessful games were exclusive to Desura.
Paging Zkylon, he'll be happy to see this.
Best news I've seen in a while. Absolute best.
lashman
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It's rather simple, there are so many new games that researching properly what to buy day one is no longer viable option (unless you prefer researching instead of playing games in that time, or buy all games not for playing), sometimes there is literally no info, and you can end up buying horrible or broken game, this together with increasing prices (leaving impulse buy territory) and so many horrible games being released leads to good games being overlooked, less new devs being successful, less money in dev cycle, indifference and ends in market crash. Famous by then indie devs will be OK, at least most of them.
I'm not saying that will happen 100%, but it seems very likely
Gipsy Danger
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Why would people need to buy the game day one? Indie games and PC games especially thrive over time. All it takes is decent word of mouth and a game can go on to sell thousands over time. Only AAA tend to think of the day one purchasers.
Are they adding more features as the game is getting more funding? Will the game ever be finished
So is Derrek Smart constantly banging on about nonsense the best PR you can have?
Someone somewhere is raging.
In case you haven't noticed successful devs are those selling their games at the release, not a year after, or in a bundle, should I remind you that our stump calls all bundle games junk? Many people don't play those games, or try unless they already know that it is a very good game and I nag at them too much.
And you can't have a good word of mouth if nobody played your game, or only me, or only Ozzie, last one might have opposite effect too.
I even have a suspicion who that might be
not telling, tho
Baron_Calamity
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Freedom = $1.05
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Star Citizen is going to be a total clusterfuck, isn't it? Expectations aren't ever going to be met for something that's getting that heavily funded
Atraveller
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It's a very pretty fire though.
Backlogger
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Got an email and tracking info for my Steam Controller. Est. arrival date is 10/13/2025! (Or 13/10/2025 depending on how you like to read dates)
I find it crazy how much people are spending on hypothetical spaceships in a game that hasn't been made yet. Do people not want to wait and see if this thing actually gets made? Why are they so happy to throw money at it now?
Baron_Calamity
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It might not but I seriously doubt it will get released until they burn through all the money. Every time they get a new backer... the game(s) will keep getting pushed further back.
It might be a decent game but it won't sell that much because everyone who wanted it would have already spent money for it. So basically the game or games will come out, the company will implode and regardless of quality.I think Squadron 42 will be fine but I'm worried about Star Citizen because that game will require post launch support and operations and what happens if there is no money to pay for admin staff and servers?
I think its bordering on a religious experience.
YianGaruga
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There's a huge difference between being a clusterfuck and not meeting expectations. Is there any reason at all to worry about the project at this point except for the ramblings of a madman?
Freedom = $1.05
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well didn't they put their FPS module on an indefinite hold not too long ago? There's that and then there's their funding system of people buying their way into better classes of ships which, personally, seems like the sort of thing that would ruin the game's balance.
of course there isn't, a game isn't supposed to be finished for years still, it doesn't stop people from bitching because of how famous it is already. I've see a lot of backers post that they are happy with the progress made already.
Welp i have to finish Mad Max, and i also started Witcher 3 few months ago and stopped until they stop making big changes with Patches (probably 1.09 will be last big one before second big expansion), batman patch is around the corner and i ignored all of that and started playing The Last of Us Remastered on PS4 
YianGaruga
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Stuff happens during development, you just get to see it here because it's an (somewhat) open process. Being sceptical is great and all but some people seem convinced that there is no chance they'll ever release something resembling a game.
Gipsy Danger
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I don't think that's true all the time though. I'm not talking about bundle games, but games that get decent steam sales after about 6-12 months. I'm pretty sure there is no game on Steam that only you two have played, even if there was then you play it, say good things about it on SteamGAF which prompts someone else to buy it and continue the cycle. PC gaming is very well known for having legs and being able to maintain a decent selling pace over time rather than selling a million copies in a day or two. We'll have to agree to disagree though.
Undertale is actually a good example of a game that can come out of nowhere and succeed. Game had like 2 thousand kickstarter backers, is now closing in on 100k copies sold despite little prerelease press and hype.
derExperte
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Begun my preload of the Battfront beta has.
Also GMG apparently has deactivated the Batman keys.
I'd still take a key to play today.
Also GMG apparently has deactivated the Batman keys.
bobnowhere
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Lots of Steam keys up on Groupees: Lost Moon, Ant War: Domination (Lol), Louie Cooks, Keen Dreams...
Very few reputable places accept unsolicited work, devs will have to build a rep before they submit. Limited time, that's the way the world works. Steam is not a guarentee of success. I on the other hand are thoroughly disreputable and will review anything for keys, anything.
Very few reputable places accept unsolicited work, devs will have to build a rep before they submit. Limited time, that's the way the world works. Steam is not a guarentee of success. I on the other hand are thoroughly disreputable and will review anything for keys, anything.
Freedom = $1.05
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naw, it'll come out, of that im certain. Whether it's any good or if it's even half of what they promised will be another thing, though.
if this was in development at a major publishing house people would've started giving it the Last Guardian treatment by now in regards to how long it appears to be in development and how much has been sunk into its development over a long period of time. Folks are just giving this the benefit of the doubt since they've released a few bits here and there and many are literally invested in it.
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Welp i have to finish Mad Max, and i also started Witcher 3 few months ago and stopped until they stop making big changes with Patches (probably 1.09 will be last big one before second big expansion), batman patch is around the corner and i ignored all of that and started playing The Last of Us Remastered on PS4
Doesn't matter. The world is ending anyway.
Hero Prinny
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I couldnt figure out how to do this, cmd starts in system32 and doesnt go back to the previous folder
Jawmuncher
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This thread was hyping some transformers and now no is talking about it. What happened?
Spoilers
http://www.nexusmods.com/phantompai...pain/ajax/moddescription/?id=4&preview=&pUp=1
Fuck that QAR Tool it's a pain to use. On nexus mods there's a already changed data file. This is what I used and it worked perfectly.I couldnt figure out how to do this, cmd starts in system32 and doesnt go back to the previous folder
Spoilers
http://www.nexusmods.com/phantompai...pain/ajax/moddescription/?id=4&preview=&pUp=1
YianGaruga
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People are waiting for their amazon copies to ship in November
Life is Strange Finale - Storm Hits In 13 Days - Teaser #1
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1-tqOIs3l50&feature=youtu.be
Spoiler probably.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1-tqOIs3l50&feature=youtu.be
Spoiler probably.
Citation needed.
I couldnt figure out how to do this, cmd starts in system32 and doesnt go back to the previous folder
Then use this mod instead:
http://www.nexusmods.com/phantompain/mods/4/?
http://www.nexusmods.com/phantompain/mods/4/?
Hero Prinny
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Was gonna buy the humble bundle so i could get skullgirls but now its 7.22, nah im good, i just wanted to play it for a few hours. I guess its so high cause people want gang beast
Thanks man
Backlogger
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Waiting for a price drop and massive discount
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