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STEAM | October II 2014 - PC Gaming: Getting a D in Yoga class
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I could understand the frustration and sometimes anger could consume you but I would never do something as stupid as him when it comes to work.
Great game. Perfect for the handheld, although I don't know how good the port is.
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Deleted member 125677
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They normally make the rewards retroactive if they are put shortly after release.
That or have their feed ghost written like some people in the public eye obviously do. In fact I might start a business venture of being the mouth piece for small indie devs with a hot temper. 10p a tweet if you're interested indie devs, I don't tweet after 12pm GMT though.
MMBosstones86
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for sure, really dumb move from whichever way you look at it (specially if it's something that's not such a big deal) but some people are really incapable of holding back
also i can totally put myself in the place of the devs and seeing months, maybe years of work be mistreated and potentially losing you the rewards of all that work feels like it would be really soul crushing
but yeah, there's a pr game involved in all of this, if you're temperamental you're not gonna end up looking the better
i'll have you in mind for when reviewers say my game's shit
its still free
crazyrabbits
Banned
Yeah, but... if it's on-disc, you already own it. At least they're not charging for it like Bioware with their Mass Effect 3 DLC. Like I'd pay money to buy the Resurgence weapon pack when I can activate it by flipping a line of code, LOL.
I've always loved the 'but it's on the disc already' debates, despite what the EULA state. By the reckoning owners of Resident Evil: Operation Raccoon should be entitled to a copy of the new Star Wars Battlefront game when it pops up due to having stuff found on the disc there.
Just send a copy to BioGamer Girl and call it a day. The only review outlet anyone ever needs
Just send a copy to BioGamer Girl and call it a day. The only review outlet anyone ever needs
though they did give Hatoful Boyfriend a bad time
a little over 20 minutes left for this dark little contest.
Please send all responses in a pm, and i may or may not share the winner depending on how messed up the joke isso...since Dark Souls gets a spare from the key...and since most people are gonna raffle them...
i'll just give mine away to the person who tells me the darkest joke they know.
General Rules and requirements
you have 12 hours
derExperte
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putin > steam sales
putin steam sales > putin > steam sales
FiveElementNinja
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But that's the best time for a meltdown!
how's the dark souls key thing work?
how is people getting spares?
like i'm pretty sure it's not about the contents of the disc but the fact that they were working on things to sell pre-release aka purposely taking content away from the base game
it's my self-esteem that's on the line here you know
how is people getting spares?
well i think the wording might be wrong that's all
like i'm pretty sure it's not about the contents of the disc but the fact that they were working on things to sell pre-release aka purposely taking content away from the base game
i don't want harsh critics i want blind lovers!
it's my self-esteem that's on the line here you know
crazyrabbits
Banned
Most EULA's aren't worth the webpages they're printed on. Some foreign countries refuse to acknowledge them as legal documents, and there's been enough shit lobbied against them over the last few years that it would be hard for a company to uphold it in court. We're coming to a breaking point when it comes to them, I think. Something is going to change.
Besides, it doesn't change the point that I'm well within my rights to augment or modify the files on my disc for my personal use. As long as I'm not copying or distributing the material for personal gain, it's carte blanche.
*cough, cough*
Yes but the buying a licence to play the game and not owning it has never been challenged in court and would more than likely stand up with the barmy IP laws that still persist. You might be able to challenge this in court that you paid for the disc there for all the content on it you should be able to access but that will probably cost you a fucking fortune to have that heard and no guarantees you'd come through without a decent case for what is or isn't you right to access. Base game and unlimited rights? Maybe under Sale of Goods Act (or similar depending on region) as what is described you could stake claim but if there are residual files or content that is not advertised I bet you'd have to make a very strong case to stake claim that you are 'owed' them.
opticalmace
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My gf told me a really brutal joke the other day. Too awful for the contest.
nothing is too awful
don't worry, i wont post it
electroflame
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Thanks. Macrium is one that comes up a lot (but surprisingly, it's really hard to find concrete data on any imaging program that isn't Acronis), so I'll probably give the Macrium trial a go next.
Unfortunately, I can't use the free version since I want incremental backups, but it's not too expensive if I end up liking it. Thanks for the heads up. It can't be any worse than Acronis, right?
Fattony12000
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Massive Chalice Backer Beta!
Yay!
Yay!
crazyrabbits
Banned
The first problem is in your first sentence - "buying a license to play a game". It is true that it has never been challenged in court, but I believe the reason why people don't do so is simply because they don't have the legal resources available to them as a large corporation would.
The real point is that there are certain consumer laws in place. One of which is the "rule of first sale" doctrine, which gives me the ability to resell a purchased physical item (and possibly digital as well, if recent trends are giving any indication) to someone else, as long as I am not personally gaining from it. Also, contract law is a very complex field on its own, and as far as I know, there hasn't been any precedent of someone getting sued for accessing files on a disc they own.
Secondly, there is no law that prevents me from accessing the files on the disc I own. As long as I am not benefiting commercially from its access, there really isn't anything a publisher can do to stop me, and some developers (like the aforementioned Bioware) look the other way or give shifty answers when called on it.
What all this breaks down to is the attempted slippage of consumer rights so publishers can get away with more and more cash-grabs.
The Dear Leader
Banned
Steam's dead for me.
Well I think the wording has changed with some developers. See Ubisoft calling it 'Unlockable Content' which is kind of acknowledging that you're not really downloading anything but a licence to play said content. What Capcom did was really scrapping the bottom of the barrel though more to the fact they kind of denied it was happening despite being found out costumes and characters were always there.
In terms of Mass Effect where it's partially had files there well it was a bit obvious work was some way in progress and there's even still cut content on the discs but it's not like all of the content was there or even in a finished state.
Without knowing who a game is financed or budgeted I don't think anyone can state a claim as to what has and hasn't been stripped out from a game unless it's super obvious. Take L.A. Noire for example. Those extra cases do remarkably seem to fit into the main game seemlessly, the events get mentioned in the base game even if you don't own the DLC. Then they were offered as preorder bonuses and then a season pass and finally as the Complete Edition. Compare that to GTA IV's DLV which is completely separate and took bloody ages to come out.
Well Activision sure seem to be liking BioGamer Girl at the mo.
EULA fall under the category of Contract Law and buy agreeing to the EULA you are entering into a contract. That's the law and contract law is a cavernous beast that covers masses and masses of tiny stipulations you wouldn't begin to believe. Yes you have rights as a consumer and some things that are stated in an EULA do violate them but just look at what I'm saying and not go on about the issues you have with EULA's. I'm just talking about access to content on the disc and how not one person has challenged it let alone won this in a court case. Tell me what 'right' that is violating? If Bioware have left half the files on the disc and you want to mess with them fine I doubt EA want to spend thousands to pursue this in litigation but some people feel they are entitled to the content and shouldn't have to pay any extra despite access being closed off, not advertised on the description of the product you are buying and not part of the licence you are paying for.
Steam is dead for me as well. Anyone else?
Same.
EDIT: Can login through Valve website but get connection area when connecting through the Steam client.
so i'm at the black throne in darksiders, how much do I have left?
game is cool but i think it's not as consistent as i thought it would be interms of dungeons/combat, it's influenced by quite a few games but I don't think it particularly excel at any of them, and the combat is getting a bit old because of the same enemies appearing over and over.
game is cool but i think it's not as consistent as i thought it would be interms of dungeons/combat, it's influenced by quite a few games but I don't think it particularly excel at any of them, and the combat is getting a bit old because of the same enemies appearing over and over.
You really shouldn't, dude had been acting like an asshole for quite a long time.
MarcoZombieCannon
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Still works and I'm still signed into friends over here. :/
damn i must be super tired. i read that 3 times and all 3 times it said "steam is dead to me"
oh yeah steam is still up for me
CharlesSurge
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So, I take it this is the Tuesday downtime? (or are they on Thursday?) Is it ever actually scheduled or announced anywhere? I suppose it also doesn't have a predictable duration?
The Dear Leader
Banned
I worded it that way on purpose, depending on how quickly they get the servers up I can simply edit one word.
abracadaver
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I can not start The Evil Within. It says my data is not synced?
and Contest OVER!!
the winner of my Dark souls token is agniswarm. i shall pm you the code but be patient as it doesn't work yet as far as i know.
and if you guys want to read his, quote to see. but if you want to talk about it, please put your thoughts in email tags to keep the OT clutter off the thread
just trying to think what gets people upset here (not really something that's affected me in particular but i rarely get worked up about these things)
there are very blatant cases like the me3 dude in which you can totally tell they're holding stuff for ransom just to boost preorder sales. i totally agree with anyone that's angered by that, it's insulting and just plain evil.
in cases where it's more debatable, like cut content becoming dlc (happened to new vegas for instance), i don't think most people have a problem with it
but you know i can't blame most people for getting pissed off after publishers have treated them like idiots for so long. not even talking the legal or ownership or license stuff cos i don't know anything about that, just what feels right/wrong to me
i have no idea what this site is dude
well i i certainly don't feel anything but sad when reading people thinking about killing themselves or feeling like their dreams are shattered, assholes or not
i feel sympathy for the phil fishes of the world, they're mostly victims of themselves and playing along with the internet. the internet's also full of jerks that risk very little for their "jerkhood", while these guys say something they regret and suddenly their careers are ruined. in some cases it's their lives and get death threats, etc.
so yeah for sure i feel for the guy, sucks it had to go this way
The Dear Leader
Banned
Me and the bae in Mordor #selfie #nofilter #nomakeup
Spring-Loaded
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Feel bad for everyone else who worked on that game instead
Me and the bae in Mordor #selfie #nofilter #nomakeup
i'm getting 404
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I'm playing 1, but yea the dungeons are pretty decent, but I think so far the first dungeon was probably the best one, even though it's a bit long, outside of that the game has a few sections i didn't like, it feels like they are trying a bunch of different things to see what sticks, but overall it's pretty enjoyable.
I actually played 2 first but stopped after a dungeon because I didn't like the rpg elements. I'll get back to it after I finish 1 as I really adore the combat in 2.
Heebie Jeebies
Banned
I really like it.
-New regions and leaderboards daily.
-Armageddon mode which is hard
-Good mod support with some interesting maps
-Varying degrees of difficulty in the challenges that you have to complete to lvl up
-Good range of powerups that you unlock to help you progress further in regions.
-Simple art style
-Works flawlessly on my laptop/toaster (1.30ghz, 4gb RAM, Intel IG)
Only things that I don't like are the decals look out of the place and don't seem to do anything bar cosmetics and the current lvl cap is 25 that you get to in a few hours. The devs plan to increase the cap at some point though.
The Dear Leader
Banned
read my previous post if you want but i can for sure sympathize with the feeling of "i wanna kill this person" when you put a lot of work into something and get screwed.
like this wasn't a death threat, this was a stupid guy venting on the wrong place
edit: apparently a lot more stuff happened later i haven't been keeping up with. the whole thing sucks for everyone involved, devs, players, valve.
derExperte
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Everything's fine here.
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