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[Topher]

In a backward ass way it makes sense not being able to sign up for a PSN account in countries without a store but that only works with consoles. Now that it's a requirement for their MP games sold on other stores they only have themselves to blame. They need official messaging on this. They need to officially say you can create an account that's from a country that isn't your own without risk.

My guess is that Sony's lawyers would advise not saying anything that is even slightly at odds with the TOS. Agree they need to address this though. I think they should do what many have already said: make it optional worldwide and provide incentives for PSN linking.

Carrot > Stick

 

[aliadiere25]

What a dumbass reason to hate a game.

You're more likely to get your data stolen or get hacked on a PC than you are from a console.

 

[Topher]

What a dumbass reason to hate a game.

You're more likely to get your data stolen or get hacked on a PC than you are from a console.

It isn't the console or the PC that is getting hacked in these instances. It is the corporate networks and servers.

 

[TintoConCasera]

people quit GAF/got banned because they were so upset about Sony franchises ending up on PC, its tribal!

I'll never understand that mindset, would be cool if all games were available everywhere.

Or at least... can't we trade Alyx for Stellar Blade?

 

[Topher]

I'll never understand that mindset, would be cool if all games were available everywhere.

Or at least... can't we trade Alyx for Stellar Blade?

I mean.....think of the mods! Imagine what those will do to the Sony blue hairs....

 

[TintoConCasera]

I mean.....think of the mods! Imagine what those will do to the Sony blue hairs....

Mods? All I want is a model viewer.

In VR.

 

[adamsapple]

Mods? All I want is a model viewer.

In VR.

GameScent Is A New Device That Lets You Smell Your Games As You Play Them

Ever wonder what The Lands Between and the Mushroom Kingdom smell like? Now you can find out.

www.thegamer.com

 

[M1chl]

They expanded massively, it's not just a Xbox Live account per say, it's also your Microsoft account now as far as I am aware.

Is there an "Xbox Live" account anymore though, considering any account with Microsoft is usable, Hotmail, Outlook, Windows, Skype etc since they made all accounts become a Microsoft Account.

It aint. They're conflating microsoft accounts with xbox accounts.

Oh sorry, I thought you need specifically xbox acc for Sea of Thieves and so on, if its just a MS account, then most people on Win10-11 already have it, so I understand that there is no outrage with those games.

 

[Metnut]

Great job by Steam taking choice away from customers. A deplorable company

 

[BennyBlanco]

Why will they have to pull out of steam?

Because people are allowed to leave negative reviews due to the additional stacked login that has no benefit to the consumer?

Don't act like youre talking to a rational person

 

[Topher]

Great job by Steam taking choice away from customers. A deplorable company.

Are you sure you understand what is going on here? Valve is removing the game from countries where the PSN requirement will make it impossible for the gamers to play.

 

[Topher]

I think quite a few companies will have to pull out of steam soonish.

 

[mansoor1980]

jimbo is speechless at the helldivers2 fiasco.............

 

[adamsapple]

Great job by Steam taking choice away from customers. A deplorable company.

 

[feynoob]

What a dumbass reason to hate a game.

You're more likely to get your data stolen or get hacked on a PC than you are from a console.

PSn requires a face id. Not the same as pc data

 

[Topher]

PSn requires a face id. Not the same as pc data

Face ID or drivers license, but that only in countries that require it. Steam has had two factor authentication for quite a while.

 

[TintoConCasera]

All Microsoft mp games tho. FF is also pretty big on steam. I think quite a few companies will have to pull out of steam soonish.

I mean, if they want to lose money just like Sony seems to do, then yeah sure, taking your product out of a store with millions of users is a good idea.

 

[Topher]

I mean, if they want to lose money just like Sony seems to do, then yeah sure, taking your product out of a store with millions of users is a good idea.

And companies are going to pull out of Steam due to Sony's screwup......why again?

I would say that is one of the most bizarre takes on all of this I've seen, but considering who said it......meh. Par for the course.

 

[Senua]

Well, what did PC-gamers expect?

This is their current strategy, they want people within their eco-system, not to become an open platform.

And it's going so well

 

[feynoob]

And companies are going to pull out of Steam due to Sony's screwup......why again?

I would say that is one of the most bizarre takes on all of this I've seen, but considering who said it......meh. Par for the course.

People are not understanding the outrage, so it's easy for them to make these takes.

Only reason for this outrage is that Sony pissed off an existing community. Folks are ignoring this part.

Ff and other games have day1 accounts. So people don't care about it.

 

[Mortisfacio]

More reason Steam is the #1 platform out there. Sony is teaching a course on how to upset the gaming community after doing something good.

 

[feynoob]

More reason Steam is the #1 platform out there. Sony is teaching a course on how to upset the gaming community after doing something good.

That is EA.
Sony is just the new kid in town.

 

[Mortisfacio]

That is EA.
Sony is just the new kid in town.

EA isn't great either, but this current topic is not about EA. Whataboutism just deflects away from the current problem.

 

[SJRB]

Fumble of the century. In awe of how bad Sony is handling this.

Yoinking access on a Sunday morning, lmao.

 

[reinking]

And companies are going to pull out of Steam due to Sony's screwup......why again?

I would say that is one of the most bizarre takes on all of this I've seen, but considering who said it......meh. Par for the course.

No way companies are going to pull out of Steam, including Sony. I just don't see this as much of a "Sony screwup" as I do people blowing it out of proportion. Just skimming through the many threads, I am seeing a lot of the same negative phrases repeated which leads me to believe it is mob outrage instead of Indvidual concerns. I do not think Sony is handling this great but I have had to create so many accounts for games to play on other services it seems silly that suddenly this is the straw that breaks the camel's back. I have not played the game yet but will probably pick it up in the near future. Maybe I will join in on the outrage then.

 

[feynoob]

Fumble of the century. In awe of how bad Sony is handling this.

Yoinking access on a Sunday morning, lmao.

Worst is letting this go to weekends, when everyone is not busy and have days off.

 

[Solarstrike]

Wtf Sony?

 

[feynoob]

Topher Are you ready to review your psn account?

 

[Gamezone]

Valve seriously need to restrict these retarded launchers after this to improve their quality. Publishers should release their games on Steam without this garbage or fuck off.

 

[adamsapple]

Topher Are you ready to review your psn account?

Sony: Here to make a new PSN account, are we?

 

[Hero_Select]

lmfao way to take a game that's had nothing but positives and "just worked" and turning it into a fucking mess.

 

[phant0m]

Valve seriously need to restrict these retarded launchers after this to improve their quality. Publishers should release their games on Steam without this garbage or fuck off.

And if Sony chooses to fuck off and stop making PC ports?

 

[feynoob]

And if Sony chooses to fuck off and stop making PC ports?

that is their loss. look at EA and others. they comeback crowling to steam after making their own launcher.

 

[Kerotan]

People act like Sony wasn't aware of potential loss of a few sales.

The game sold what? 8+M copies?
Most people don't give a fuck about having to create another account. It's standard practice nowadays.

Exactly. I guess it's just the latest meltdown from the emos on steam.

 

[Killjoy-NL]

And it's going so well

Yes, Helldivers 2 is a major success.
This drama will blow over.

 

[CuNi]

The devs never really said that. It's been part of Helldivers 2 launch from the very beginning.

While not outright said, this heavily implies that they weren't fully informed etc.
Especially the part that the Announcement on Steam and all the Communication was made by Sony instead of AH.

It was part of the game from the very beginning, but it wasn't mandatory. You could skip if and there was no pop-up saying that would change anytime.

Yes, Helldivers 2 is a major success.
This drama will blow over.

Every drama blows over eventually, but this one isn't one of those "it's just empty words".
Steam refunds the game for people that are way past the refund playtime and buy-date, as well as delisted it in over 100 countries, which is nothing that Steam does regularly.

The game won't die, obviously, and Sony and AH will make huge profits, but this will not be "nothing" either.

 

[Killjoy-NL]

The game won't die, obviously, and Sony and AH will make huge profits, but this will not be "nothing" either.

It will be nothing. Most people don't care about creating an account.

 

[nosoynadie22]

Sony fcked up BIG TIME. Not the first time.

And yet, there was one, UNBELIEVABLY EASY way to do it:
First stage - no psn req
Second - psn not required, but you could have achievements unlocked on your psn account
Third - still psn is not required, but if you login, you can have cross-progression
Fourth - psn is required for 'much cheaters on psn'

Bang!!

But nooo

Add super credits and exclusive skins in the third step.

In my opinion Sony should have blocked the purchase of Helldrivers II on Steam at the time they had problems with the servers, not made an exception for the requirement of a PSN account so maybe they would have solved their problems in a better way.

 

[Gamezone]

And if Sony chooses to fuck off and stop making PC ports?

Good riddance.

 

[Mortisfacio]

It will be nothing. Most people don't care about creating an account.

We'll see. This is the first weekend where player counts actually dropped during the weekend since release. Last week for example was 131k on Wednesday and 161k on Saturday. This week was 120k on Wednesday and 115k on Saturday. 115k is still good for a game, but seeing a drop for the weekend for the first time is more than "nothing".

 

[Sleepwalker]

While not outright said, this heavily implies that they weren't fully informed etc.
Especially the part that the Announcement on Steam and all the Communication was made by Sony instead of AH.

It was part of the game from the very beginning, but it wasn't mandatory. You could skip if and there was no pop-up saying that would change anytime.



Every drama blows over eventually, but this one isn't one of those "it's just empty words".
Steam refunds the game for people that are way past the refund playtime and buy-date, as well as delisted it in over 100 countries, which is nothing that Steam does regularly.

The game won't die, obviously, and Sony and AH will make huge profits, but this will not be "nothing" either.

To be fair 2 friends decided they wanted to get a refund over this and both were denied because of playtime. So steam are not handing out refunds to everyone, i'm not sure what the criteria is for them to go through.

One of them only had 10 hours on it and the other like 19.

 

[Killjoy-NL]

We'll see. This is the first weekend where player counts actually dropped during the weekend since release. Last week for example was 131k on Wednesday and 161k on Saturday. This week was 120k on Wednesday and 115k on Saturday. 115k is still good for a game, but seeing a drop for the weekend for the first time is more than "nothing".

Wait till after the new Warbond and especially when the Illuminate get added.

 

[Three]

While not outright said, this heavily implies that they weren't fully informed etc.
Especially the part that the Announcement on Steam and all the Communication was made by Sony instead of AH.

This is the main guy at AH, not some community manager trying to appease the community:

 

[Midn1ght]

This is probably Sony's next step toward making PC players pay a fee to play their online games.

First: PSN is optional

Second: PSN is required

Next Gaas Game: PS+ is required

And as expected, PC players are like:

 

[bender]

I think quite a few companies will have to pull out of steam soonish.

I heard Valve is pulling out of Steam.

 

[Killjoy-NL]

This is the main guy at AH, not some community manager trying to appease the community:

No shit, it's a Playstation game.

People really didn't see this coming? Lol

 

[Sleepwalker]

I heard Valve is pulling out of Steam.

I heard Gabe is pulling out of Gabe

 

[bender]

I heard Gabe is pulling out of Gabe

I never thought he'd take it literally when I told him to go fuck himself.

 

[Pasta la Vista]

I don't really have anything to add that hasn't already been said, this is some bullshit on Sony's part
No, I'm personally not affected by this because I'm playing this game on PS5, but this is not how you foster a growing player base. They aren't just fucking the players here, they are also fucking Arrowhead over with this shit. This was their breakout hit and now their future is less bright with this issue being tied to their brand. Sony should offer the devs compensation for sales lost as a result of this at the very least. I do expect this decision to be reversed though, I mean it has to be at this point.

 

[Fabieter]

I heard Valve is pulling out of Steam.

So you answering sarcasm with more sarcasm. I love you bro.