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STEAM | September 2014 - Nice thread. Btw, Bayonetta 2 is out next month.
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Terra_Ex
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You couldn't even control your characters directly in BB as I recall. It also had that lightning bolt minigame, so yeah...
With the dodging lightning shit and the chocobo runs you really think that blitzball is the worse of them all?
yes you could. there was a setting you could change when your team have the ball. hit triangle, select manual A. do it once, it stays for all future games
You definitely could. You had to press a button while playing to bring up the menu and it let you choose from two manual settings. Allowing you to control your players.
Ban Puncher
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Christ and I just finished installing a bunch of 780 Ti cards for people.
MMBosstones86
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Maybe if is the only FF minigame you've played.
I'm not defending FFX as some kind of masterpiece of world design. It has some of the worst level designs in the series, and the towns are rather poor as well. I still enjoyed the game, and it had a lot of great moments, but it was deeply flawed as well.
I was just explaining why people perceived it to be less linear than FFX. Because while they ultimately have the same basic level structure, FFX had other things to do besides move forward and kill stuff. Whether those other things are actually worth doing is, as I said, a different story. But a lot of people did that side content, and so from their recollection, FFX had more to do than just walking in a straight line.
If you went into FFXIII expecting side content, you would be disappointed. I was not (having heard all of the complaints in advance), so I could appreciate it for what it was: a game with a great battle system. I also platinumed the game, so it's not as if I hate it. It's just a very different thing from the earlier Final Fantasies, and a lot of people aren't going to like that.
However, going forward, I would like it if they did not repeat the FFXIII approach. Outside of the engine troubles they were having in the development on that game, there's not reason why the focus on combat necessarily needs to preclude side content. They can certainly make that stuff fully optional for people like you who don't want to engage with it. But I'd rather there was more to do in the game outside of fighting, as fun as the combat system was.
http://www.*****************/2014/09/17/microsoft-announces-wired-xbox-one-controller/
pretty nice, but that price is too much
pretty nice, but that price is too much
Yeah I'd prefer more customization to 13.
I actually quite enjoyed it early on when they forced me to keep switching different characters and using them (people seem to hate it), I think during the later parts when all the characters join the party, the templates would often reset everytime I switch the characters out (it could be that I was doing something wrong), so I ended up sticking to one group which made it much more boring for me.
I hate that game
I played it for 8hrs straight for some limit break items or something
MMBosstones86
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I went in for 1.5 because it's still insanely cheap and I wanted the games anyway.
autoduelist
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I had no idea FF discussions even consumed PC threads.
Count me among the lovers of FFXIII. Sure, the plot is nonsensical. Sure, the combat system takes hours too long to fully open up. But... that combat system is god tier. It's just brilliant, evolving turn based into some new and beautiful.
If you've ever felt turn based combat often runs into the issue of becoming rote... whether a game ends up just being 'attack attack attack heal' or otherwise being obvious 'hit the ice golem with fire, hit the fire dragon with ice', FFXIII automates the obvious while moving the player role up a level. Characters are smart enough to know what to do (even discovering strengths/weaknesses of monsters over time)... and instead, the player controls character roles (telling a character when to shift from attacking to buffing, for example) and the characters act accordingly. It's streamlined yet tactical, a fluid, natural evolution to turn based systems. It's got it's flaws (a few oddities in actions, monster discovery should have been deeper) but overall it was a really solid idea.
It just took way too long before you had all the characters and options at your disposal.
I don't know that this is a fair definition of 'linear' in terms of gaming. This would be true of most jrpgs -- sidequests are almost always skippable by definition (unless grinding is required) and there are rarely branching plots. Even most open world games have a 'linear' path through them... it's just full of other things to do. Just like Chapter 11.
Granted, the first ten chapters are a tunnel. Didn't bother me too much because I'm not a fan of town exploration (finding every npc to say nothing important, looking in bedroom chests, etc, does nothing for me).
Count me among the lovers of FFXIII. Sure, the plot is nonsensical. Sure, the combat system takes hours too long to fully open up. But... that combat system is god tier. It's just brilliant, evolving turn based into some new and beautiful.
If you've ever felt turn based combat often runs into the issue of becoming rote... whether a game ends up just being 'attack attack attack heal' or otherwise being obvious 'hit the ice golem with fire, hit the fire dragon with ice', FFXIII automates the obvious while moving the player role up a level. Characters are smart enough to know what to do (even discovering strengths/weaknesses of monsters over time)... and instead, the player controls character roles (telling a character when to shift from attacking to buffing, for example) and the characters act accordingly. It's streamlined yet tactical, a fluid, natural evolution to turn based systems. It's got it's flaws (a few oddities in actions, monster discovery should have been deeper) but overall it was a really solid idea.
It just took way too long before you had all the characters and options at your disposal.
I don't know that this is a fair definition of 'linear' in terms of gaming. This would be true of most jrpgs -- sidequests are almost always skippable by definition (unless grinding is required) and there are rarely branching plots. Even most open world games have a 'linear' path through them... it's just full of other things to do. Just like Chapter 11.
Granted, the first ten chapters are a tunnel. Didn't bother me too much because I'm not a fan of town exploration (finding every npc to say nothing important, looking in bedroom chests, etc, does nothing for me).
Only had enough cash for 1 TF2 key.
Gipsy Danger
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You could also just hide behind the goal with the ball and no one would try to tackle you. I loved BB but it had some serious issues.
Ah, fair enough.
I sold about £10 worth of cards recently so had enough in my wallet to get some keys. Essentially free games, yey!
Gipsy Danger
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http://www.*****************/2014/09/17/microsoft-announces-wired-xbox-one-controller/
pretty nice, but that price is too much
But why? Wireless ones work with a micro-usb cable already. Give us a wireless dongle god damnit.
Edit: Wait, you can even disconnect the cable? Is this just a wireless controller with a cable included? wtf
you should edit out that link, it's not authorized retailer.
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Atraveller
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Probably because a lot of people don't know that it's already compatible with PC, so MS did a repackage to sell the product.
I have yet to play 12 I hope I can correct that some time in the future.
Oh definitely, the AI was terrible. You can completely abuse the AI to win games easily, even that Luca one which you aren't even meant to win. However, I still got a lot of enjoyment out of it despite that. It's just a shame they never fixed those issues in the remaster. Not that I expected them to.
Freedom = $1.05
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I dont get it either. I'm guessing that they just want to release a package that explicitly states that the controller works on PCs now, but otherwise it's the same thing as the current xbone controller, no?
LOOOL
http://www.microsoft.com/hardware/en-us/p/xbox-one-controller-for-windows/C8G-00004#details
what the deference microsoft ?
its just wireless + mini usb cable
why not making it undetachable cable just like the wired 360 ?
http://www.microsoft.com/hardware/en-us/p/xbox-one-controller-for-windows/C8G-00004#details
what the deference microsoft ?
its just wireless + mini usb cable
why not making it undetachable cable just like the wired 360 ?
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http://www.*****************/2014/09/17/microsoft-announces-wired-xbox-one-controller/
pretty nice, but that price is too much
This is one weird product. They should rather release a wireless adapter for the controller.
PetriP-TNT
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It might be the only good Star Wars RPG if you don't count KOTOR!
Amazing game, would replay it in HD any second.
Gipsy Danger
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Yep, it's exactly the same. Although I'm pretty sure they did the same thing for the 360. Seems a tad silly but whatever.
For the people asking about Civ 4 earlier, Gamersgate is doing a Civilization day, up to 75% off
They're also doing 75% off the Hitman games. Only Absolution is a Steam key, though.
Okay, going to repeat this for the European evening crowd. (Probably the last time, I swear)
My friend's store went kaput and he's got some non-returnable stock left. He wants to try and recoup his losses on them, so he's letting them go cheap.
I said I'd see if people were interested, so I'm offering the opportunity to my SteamGAF friends. Quote to see the rest.
They're also doing 75% off the Hitman games. Only Absolution is a Steam key, though.
Okay, going to repeat this for the European evening crowd. (Probably the last time, I swear)
My friend's store went kaput and he's got some non-returnable stock left. He wants to try and recoup his losses on them, so he's letting them go cheap.
I said I'd see if people were interested, so I'm offering the opportunity to my SteamGAF friends. Quote to see the rest.
freshVeggie
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NO WAY! 970 for 300$. 770 cost ~300 right now, shortly before the new ones arrive. I'd have guessed for the new cards to be more expensive.
Oh man, so excited how 960Ti will be priced then. 230 would be awesome
PLASTICA-MAN
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Haha, either the news or the deal or both are retarded.
W need the driver sthat will enable triggers impulse rather than bulsshiting us with such deal which doesn't bring anything.
the wired 360 controllers are undetachable and there is no place for battery
Gipsy Danger
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I mean that they released a 360 controller with a Wired Controller for Windows box. It was the exact same controller but it said for windows on it.
Edit: http://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B004JU0JSK/ - See!
I thought it was $400 and $600, but I hope you're right.
I wish more games did this. This was one of my favorite parts of FF12 and DA:O.
this is true
Also for those asking why wired, I prefer wired, for example, being lazy and unorganized, makes one headache less, wired all the way.
PLASTICA-MAN
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It is a fake one, in fact , nowadays only fake xbox 360 controllers exist on the market (I got fooled a week ago and they sold me a falke used xbox 360 wired controller). The only genuine 360 controller now is the one you get with the console (or from Microsoft themselves). If someone is smart, he would buy an Bone controller now for his PC (or console), cus the fake ones are already coming.
ashecitism
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NO WAY! 970 for 300$. 770 cost ~300€ right now, shortly before the new ones arrive. I'd have guessed for the new cards to be more expensive.
Oh man, so excited how 960Ti will be priced then. 230€ would be awesome
Pricing rumors are all over the place. One had the 980 at €600 and the 970 at €400, but a newer on had them at the price Grief said. Sounds way too good. Might end up in between with the 970 being 350-400$ and the 980 ~500$. Who knows.
970 at 300$ would be crazy as hell!
decided to pop my head in the steam thread like i usually do and
wut
you should be banned for saying something like this
wut
you should be banned for saying something like this
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They've just switched to Singapore Dollars for me to. No more USD. Not too sure whether things are cheaper but it seems like it.
ashecitism
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just compare it to the US price by going to store.steampowered.com
corrosivefrost
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Yes, Blitzball is probably of the best mini-game in the eontire FF series.
I wasted something like 20 hours only on that, PS2 age
Blitzball was absolutely terrible.
The best mini-game of the entire FF series comes from FF8 in the form of Triple Triad.
completely disagree with the first part of this post.
second part, brofist.jpg
rebought FF8 on PC just to play Triple Triad
ashecitism
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Nvidia, Nvidia, never change....
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