where's my steam discount NAMCO
edit: i went to ps store and it's the same price there tizoc y u lyin... was the 10 percent for preorders or something?
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STEAM | September 2016 - Good job doing previous stuff, let's do new stuff
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where's my steam discount NAMCO
edit: i went to ps store and it's the same price there tizoc y u lyin... was the 10 percent for preorders or something?
Stuck on the Playstation, like The iDOLM@STER.
A Fish Aficionado
I am going to make it through this year if it kills me
What are videogames? Or is it video games?
Style books make up your minds.
Style books make up your minds.
Nier release date made this the best show since SE E3.
The only good thing out of this is Gravity Rush for free, but with my luck that is a Japan thing only and EU/US users will get some crappy Ubisoft games instead.
believe the first date given for a Japanese game is going to be the actual release date, breh
That is what he wants you to believe. Its all lies.
The truth is
Norman Reedus is Gray Fox
Death Stranding is a VR Mission
The real name of the game is Metal Gear Solid 6: Return of the Phantom
Never be game over
Believe!
Tizoc
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Tgs isnt just somy ya know
If you jinx it im going to find you
Tgs isnt just somy ya know
These days it pretty much is (+ mobile)
Nah, this is a Viva Pinata spin-off, I thought about that when he mentioned sticks.
Dragon1893
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Everything is releasing in February, it's insane.
Wok
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Could you just show an additional score which would be the average score of key activations? It would be interesting to be warned if there is some big discrepancy between Steam buyers and key activations.
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texhnolyze
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Black Soma
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After downloading a specific Windows 7 update Dead Rising starts but has no audio. Sigh.
great? for reals?
You are aware that most people buy games outside steam, I'm sure, so why?
it's basically RIP steam rating system and it worked surprisingly good, for me at least.
or are you sarcastic, doesn't look like it if you are.
It is discrimination of poor folks, and we shouldn't be OK with this, but as usual nobody will care.
giving powers away now?
when we already have close to none?
what's wrong with you?
I don't get how key activations don't count for the overall score is great. 95% of my Steam collection are purchased outside of Steam. Steam has being a rip off for the past few years. Also evidence of review tampering is your assumption and something you cannot prove.
edit: i too can't tell if its sarcasm.
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As someone who don't write any reviews it's a great solution as long as the data is more accurate now
Dragon1893
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Nobody would be surprised that's for sure.
I wouldn't mind Nier getting delayed, it's so damn close to Persona 5.
Then there's Yakuza 0 in january. I was forced to skip a lot of games I wanted this year but I really want to support Nier and Yakuza at launch, I hope I can afford it. At least Nier being on PC will make it cheaper.
Horizon will have to wait, as much as it pains me.
texhnolyze
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I'm playing Ember. I'd definitely recommend it.
My first impressions:
Just finished my first session, I'm liking it as well.
The map is pretty huge and we can actually go anywhere without restriction. However you'll find monsters higher level than us if we're careless. Loot is also numerous and satisfying, I keep getting gear upgrades every now and then. Skill system is somewhat unique, we get active skills from the equipment. Combat is the usual RTwP, but unfortunately we can only control the main character. Party member is controlled by AI and we can only use their skills manually. RPG aspect is also good, there's always a peaceful or lethal way of dealing with people, whether it's quest giver or bandits. I hope I can find a village or town soon, but according to the world map it's still a long way to go. Pretty excited to play more later tonight.
Some screens.
how exactly it is more accurate?
I just checked my reviews - 28. Of this number only 11 adds into steam ratings now, that's less than a half. Of my 3 negative reviews, only one now counts, because it's for a f2p game.
yeah, incredible update, amazing! we deserve to be treated like this, clearly.
Mikurden
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By default, this will now screen out instances of review tampering (as well as lots of perfectly legit reviews) but we control the filter and can click to see the score when all reviews are included, so it's good all-around because we have more control and can easily judge for ourselves whether we think review tampering is skewing the results for a particular game.
d00d3n
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Thanks! Sounds interesting!
Yeah, people who are annoyed because the KS didn't live up to their dreams, or the devs didn't give a Steam key straight away (Elite: Dangerous, for example), will now be placed under key activations. Whilst that kind-of thing can be useful, the review-bombing that can happen under those circumstances is more hassle than it's worth a lot of the time, and it means it can be filtered out more easily.
Edit: It's worth bearing in mind that Steam isn't the only place where customer reviews are an issue. Amazon has a problem with 1) paid reviews and 2) reviews that don't focus on the actual item (complaining about delivery or packaging, for instance). Whilst their review system isn't skewed towards people who have bought the item on Amazon, they do note "Verified Purchase" on reviews of items that were bought on the site, to help consumers.
we have no control at all, suddenly our reviews doesn't matter, unless we buy a game on steam. Who has control of what again?
Tampering maybe is a small issue, but this solution is killing a patient because he's sick, it's no solution at all.
We can't filter anything, steam shows rating calculated of reviews for steam bought games, you can read other reviews as well, true, but ratings are now botched. When you check games list, you see only those ratings, period.
OTOH, that system worked too good, it had to be screwed.
Gipsy Danger
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Isn't Yaiba on steam already? It's as much of a NG game as allstars musou is likely to be.
You can filter ratings (hovering over the 'Positiv' in this case gives the percentages). And this even gives some interesting new data, like comparing the number of Steam purchases with Key activations.
HP_Wuvcraft
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While I heartily enjoy the fact that people that neg voted my game but got it for free will be now categorized (seriously, I got a new one today that was angry that he was forced to get my game with his bundle [it devalued his dollar or something]), it is still going to factor in to the overall filter on Steam.
I've never flagged reviews before, but some of the negs I get are just petty as fuck.
oipic
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Indeed - Steam reviews and ratings will become pertinent only when Valve find an algorithm that reliably filters out dickheads.
You have every filter option available on the store page of each individual game. You can check how it was rated overall, by Steam purchases, by key activations, even by different languages. I fail to see how this is that big of a problem.
oipic
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The distinction here is ratings versus reviews, if I understand it correctly; yes, you can filter the reviews by key or store purchase, but not the ratings - they're derived solely via the reviews from Steam store purchasers, regardless of the filter.
Snakethesniper
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Was looking this game yesterday http://store.steampowered.com/app/341000 and it just left early access. Positive reviews too, anyone knows it?
But this filter does include the key activations in the rating if you hover over it. It's 90% positiv for all, 89% positiv from Steam Purchases (what is also shown at the top of the store page) and 92% positive from Key Activations. (Game in question is Dragon's Dogma)
Or am I just completely missing something here?
Yeah, it only shows the rating derived from the Steam Purchases besides the game in searches and lists but you still have all the information available on the individual store pages.
It still doesn't change a rating of a game in the slightest, hence you can't filter rating
you are missing the main point, whatever you do in the game page (and most people do nothing of the sort, some maybe read top review or two (which actually now are recent reviews, instead of previously long ago being most helpful), doesn't let you filter or change game ratings to include all reviews. It lowers accuracy of steam ratings in general, we don't know by what margin yet, but it does.
That's why this update is a horrible idea.
I don't understand how anybody can think it's a good thing, but again it must be just me.
not to mention, it is discriminating in very specific way.
no, it does not
I can do this all day, kindly prove that it changes, I tried, it doesn't
consumer can't choose anything, rating consists only of reviews of steam purchases yet again.
Wok
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Yes, it changes the rating.
So your review is still visible, but does not contribute to the average rating except if the consumer chooses so.
Gipsy Danger
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Changes to reviews seem like a necessary evil. They were pretty much useless before because people would just shit on games or praise them because of the dumbest reasons. Now at least if people have to buy it on the steam store then the reviews there will be more honest and relevant.
OK, to make this pointless argument stop, change it to include all reviews
http://store.steampowered.com/search/?sort_by=Reviews_DESC&os=win,mac&filter=popularnew
this list is totally different from one I've seen just a few days ago, now I wish I taken a screenshot, but you can believe me, I don't lie.
http://store.steampowered.com/search/?sort_by=Reviews_DESC&os=win,mac&filter=popularnew
this list is totally different from one I've seen just a few days ago, now I wish I taken a screenshot, but you can believe me, I don't lie.
Whoa, I bought it almost two years ago from some deal because it looked interesting but it being early access I didn't even want to try it before it launches. If you hadn't mentioned it, I wonder how long it would have taken for me to notice that it has left early access. Can't help with an opinion though
In a way it seems great, but what about games bought from other stores?
You're looking in the wrong spot. If you adjust the purchase type/language filters, the accompanying aggregate review score changes. Take, for instance, Half-Life 2: if you change the purchase type to Key Activations, the score will drop from Overwhelmingly Positive to Very Positive.
Well, developers can't activate keys as gift copies or otherwise freely distribute gift copies (short of buying them), so there's that concern assuaged.
Wok
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What did you try?
I had to look for a game with differences between ratings based on where they purchased the game, I found Volume (in a Humble Monthly):
Steam purchasers: VERY POSITIVE (account for 75% of reviews)
Humble Monthly subscribers: MIXED (account for 25% of reviews)
For most games that I checked, the average review score was the same.
So, basically:
- you change the average review score for a very few number of games by biasing the sample of review scores,
- you keep all the reviews for people to read,
- you give control to the consumer.
They never were useless, IDK where you get the idea.
are we having "it's for our own good" argument yet again?
for reals? I'm outa here, valve can do no wrong, right? and never did before
oh and lol to the bold part
all trolls are poor, am I right?
mine doesn't change, I tried many times, for different games.
IDK what to think.
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