Are you sure cutscenes can't be skipped? I could've swore you could skip them on the 360.
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Steam Summer Sales 2012 Thread 2: No One I Know Voted for Nixon
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Are you sure cutscenes can't be skipped? I could've swore you could skip them on the 360.
Portal 2 is a must play! Do you have Portal 1?
dragonlife
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By the end of the game you can have 16 characters in battle at once. You will always feel like you're improving your characters because you get stat raises almost every battle. You can customize shit however you like. Don't like an ability? Make it so it doesn't show up ever. Change your mind? Allow it again.
You have different formations that affect the stats of your Union (small battle party) that give you buffs/debuffs, and you'll earn more as you do certain things or advance the story.
Did I mention the battles are fucking awesome? I don't think I've ever felt any battles as intense as in this game. Especially some of the bosses. Heck, if you're not careful, even "weak" monsters will destroy you.
EDIT: I'm pretty sure cutscenes can be skipped.
Already own Shatter; PixelJunk Eden looks cool but I wonder if there's enough gameplay to it to be fun, and not just an experience.
Well the game is like 90% sidequests which is a good point in my book. Combat addicting. Research for Unique enemies can be very rewarding, although it can be quite time consuming (and dangerous, lol). You'll live in fear of being destroyed quite often, but with good strategy you can survive.
Some really good music.
Basically, the only flaws are the fucking main quest with its HORRIBLE dialogue, and the obscure nature of the battle system. That latter point was improved with the PC release and there have been plenty of guides on the net since.
Just weep for us who played it on 360 back in the day where there were no such things and were completely in the dark. Although I honestly think I liked the game more that way, not being able to totally grasp the in depth details of the battle system. It kept you constantly thinking about your organization and trying things.
Well, buy it, go make yourself a sandwich during cutscenes, wipe you ass with a picture of JYB, and all will be good in the world.
Also, crafting is in the game ! Yay!
HP_Wuvcraft
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Okay. Sold.
Printing guides now.
Printing guides now.
Ah maybe, I must be thinking about the PC version where the skip button they show in the menu never worked with me.
It's a good game, the battle system is really really fun and some areas look stunning especially with the Remnants.
It's plagued by most Unreal Engine hiccups you can come up with (biggest for me was MASSIVE texture pop in) and the writing can be...well one moment sticks out, the IGN review described it best I feel when they referenced the movie 'Beerfest' (if you've seen it you will immediately recognize the moment).
Overall it has what I look for in a jrpg, fun mechanics, good battling and while the story will not win pulitzer prices it pretty much leaves you with the fun parts of the game.
No no no no no no no no NO!
You really need to get that sense of not just WTF? but WHAT THE FUCKING WHAT FUCK.....WHAT?!!!!???
When you first play it. Its awesome! and I love it
Everyone should have it.If you go for it be sure to pick up a double pack of Portal 2 so you can enjoy co-op with your girlfriend!
dragonlife
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Yeah, do not play TLR for story. It has some pretty awesome cutscenes here and there, but the story is so overshadowed by the awesome battle system. The story is simple enough to move things along, though.
How so?
I thought it's victory was already a given.
Oh yeah btw. one thing that rubbed me wrong about TLR: the game basically penalizes you for fighting a lot. Which only became a problem because I loved battles so much that I battled all the time. There is a system that gives "better rewards" if you chain battles one after another, but that will actually bump up enemy levels so that for some special encounters you can end up with harder enemies (sometimes almost impossible to beat at that moment) than if you went through the game "normally" or avoiding fights.
So...a Square rpg where you actually should not grind ladies and gentlewomen!
So...a Square rpg where you actually should not grind ladies and gentlewomen!
dragonlife
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I will personally give everyone who doesn't vote for TLR a BJ. All teeth. You don't want that, do you? Vote for TLR.
That's the boring way to play. I chained everything and as much as possible. I felt so badass when I would kill difficult enemies. And besides, no one would really know that their first time. If you look at guides and read up on mechanics before playing an RPG, you're doing it wrong, because then you just plant the idea in your head that you're just going to waste time if you don't do it "right," and that's bullshit. Just play however the hell you want the first time.
It's not the most complex game, but there's enough gameplay that I put nearly 40 hours into it. It's all about figuring out how to get to the seeds, even though you know which general direction to go. I would say at $2 it's a steal, probably the best deal of the sale. Plus, even if it turns out not to be for you, it's the cost of a soft drink.
Maybe if you told that to the average Steam user. From past experience even if we had a consensus on what to vote for, we still lost.
I wish it had less units. If you deploy 4 4-man unions and the enemy does the same, you'll be sitting there watching 32 attack animations for only 4 button presses you've made. It's a bit tedious even with turbo mode. Although if you like QTEs you can turn those on to keep you more on your toes, but still, wish it was more like Suikoden in handling its many characters.
Wasn't that somewhat corrected in the PC version?
Taking in account only the dailies and flash sales I'd suggest the following games:
Portal 1+2 (alternatively, the Valve Complete Pack).
Machinarium is a great point and click and for just 2.49 I consider it a must (the entire Amanita Collection is on sale, though Samorost 2 is a really short game and I haven't played much of Botanicula to feel confortable recommeding it).
Witcher 1 and 2 are also worth getting.
if you want to flex your graphical muscles Witcher 2 looks brilliant at high settings
dragonlife
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It's funny because I was wrong; it's actually 18 units by the end of the game, not 16
I didn't mind too much, myself. Somewhat, yes. From the wikia:
I really hope so, for the double-dip.
dragonlife
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All teeth.
About 2 hours.
I want to talk against buying TLR for people that were just interested in the game because it was a JRPG in PC. The game isn't bad, but it's nothing extraordinary (Emma is a character for the books and the game's strongest point though), but everyone's probably better buying PS2 games and emulating them.
I still voted for it because I know a lot of you guys want it, and $7.50 isn't so bad, but, really, I feel like the best thing it has going for it is it's lack of competition.
I still voted for it because I know a lot of you guys want it, and $7.50 isn't so bad, but, really, I feel like the best thing it has going for it is it's lack of competition.
Yeah, I didn't know and never really noticed until somewhere in the final third some off-the path dragon battle completely wasted, utterly destroyed, profoundly disgraced me. Of course by then it was too late anyways, but I wanted to issue a word of warning at least.
I'm also the kind of guy who restarts RPGs after 50 hours because really taking that other skill 30 minutes in would have been way better.
Guides are for 2nd playthroughs and going "whaaaaaa~, you can do that", agree.
I wouldn't know, only played the PC version. You'll only notice it when it pushes some enemies over a threshold where they get skills that are way above your capabilities, but with smart tactics you can still usually win. You're just inadvertently playing hard-mode.
I don't know, after playing three or four hours of the game battles bored me to tears since i've mostly mashed one button, because most of the encounters were so easy it became tiresome...
Mauricio_Magus
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I bought The Walking Dead, you win Gabe... you win...
I feel so bad for not buying the Witcher 1/2 already now all I need is my Human Revolution sale (I know it was in sale once, I didn't see it)
I feel so bad for not buying the Witcher 1/2 already
now all I need is my Human Revolution sale (I know it was in sale once, I didn't see it)zerokoolpsx
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What if they enjoyed it? :lol
Just checked out some gameplay of Botanicula. Point and click interactive story describes it well. Nothing enticing me to play it. Just click on everything.
Well first - that's a very easy way to lose against bosses.
Second - that's the best way to make your characters underpowered. Seek out tougher battles (when the game opens up a bit) and fight in those which you have low morale. You definitely won't be pressing one button and your characters will be stronger between battle ranks. If you don't need to heal or use any real strategy, you're fighting the wrong battles. Granted the game doesn't really imply this at any point; I think that's the one major failing kept intact in the PC version.
If you want challenges this game has 'em. The difficulty gets extreme the more sidequests you do, and with underpowered characters you won't be able to nix some of the upper level enemies in the game.
Story is standard I agree, dialogue is awful. Well, Rush and Irina's lines are. David and the gang are fine.
Classic JRPG bull.
"BUT IT's MY SISTER!"
"Rush, you're in the middle of the battlefield and the world is on the brink fo destruction!"
"BUT MY SISTEEEEER ! IRINAAAAAAAAA(...)AAA"
"RUSH, big bro, I know there is so much more important things to do but let's talk about OUR LOVE for the 156196th time"
Caricaturing, but you get the drift.
Also, well, if you don't chain of course battles are easy, but you'll get fucked quickly.
Bought the Amanita Bundle for Botanicula. I think I had Samorost2 already and I got Macinarium from the first Humble Bundle, but I don't think I ever added that to my steam account.
Edit: Didn't see Botanicula by itself was 75%...fuck me.
But if you don't play it you're missing out on cat people with four arms whose one attack (I forget the name) decimates everything.
I still don't understand the 'leveling' system in that game.
Edit: Didn't see Botanicula by itself was 75%...fuck me.
But if you don't play it you're missing out on cat people with four arms whose one attack (I forget the name) decimates everything.
I still don't understand the 'leveling' system in that game.
The One Who Knocks
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I'd buy it for you if I had enough money in my Steam Wallet for it and Arma but you absolutely should get it. Admittedly it's not too demanding (to simply get through the game anyway) but it's very relaxing and there is something oddly satisfying as you attempt to get as much pollen as possible and a high score. The simplicity of the gameplay so far as mechanics boost the relaxing atmosphere, as do the simple yet very servicable graphics.
Traversing the areas is never a chore and trying to explore each area in its entirety is an enjoyable experience. In addition to this the techno (I'm sorry, I have absolutely no interest in music on its own so I don't know if that's the correct genre but I think it is) soundtrack is rather simple yet it further augments the simple, relaxing atmosphere.
I'll be the first to admit I do, in general, love "experience" like games, Journey, Flower Shadow of the Colossus and Ico all high up on my list of most enjoyable games but I really wouldn't compare Pixeljunk Eden to those. It may share the relaxing atmosphere of them but it is definitely driven by the gameplay (not to state that those games aren't driven by gameplay in case anybody else gets that idea) and that gameplay, on its own is very enjoyable (to me at least)
dragonlife
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You've barely scratched the surface when it comes to abilities and the number of units in your party, though. I say keep going, but if you're not having fun, then, I don't really know what to say.
Then they're in luck
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Koroviev
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DyslexicAlucard might still have some spares.
MegaKungFuRadio
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Fuuuhhhhh...
Why did I play Orcs Must Die until 3:30 AM T.T
Why did I play Orcs Must Die until 3:30 AM T.T
Navidson REC
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So, I already own Portal 2 for the 360. Would you guys recommend getting the PC version, too? I'm thinking of all the mods, editor, and so on.
I mean, 5 is basically a steal, but I'm still not sure about it.
I mean, 5 is basically a steal, but I'm still not sure about it.
Because you're preparing yourself to do much worse in ten days with Orcs 2 of course !
Krappadizzle
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Even after reading all these impressions of TLR, I still am not interested. I think it's that I just plain don't like JRPGS. I liked Final Fantasy III(U.S) and VIII but really after those, I stopped playing and can not for the life of me find the fun in them. I'm not a fan of turn based RPGS and hate that generally grinding is a must. More power to those of you that like/live TLR, but I'm hoping Splinter Cell wins this community vote.
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