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Steam Summer Sales 2014 |OT3| Sale over, new thread tonight/tomorrow

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Rhaknar

The Steam equivalent of the drunk friend who keeps offering to pay your tab all night.
yo dat Shovel Knight soundtrack o_O

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Skyzard

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Before you picked up that chandelier that finally tied your room together?

I would mention my own gold gilded chandelier and we could laugh about our other similarities until a friendship blossomed and we decided to become chandelier blood brothers...but that would be a lie. I have no chandelier, just a creaky ceiling fan desperately trying to keep the sweat from my brow as it creaks and creaks away, like a couple of hobos wrastlin' with the ghost of railway security man on top of the tin roof of a poorly made shed.

Wow, haha :)

And it's from ikea!

This is early Star Citizen? Well damn... Time to upgrade everything. Looks gorgeous.

It does look amazing! Can't wait for more to explore though.
 

MadGear

Member
jeeez, just tried the first FEAR - feel like i'm having a mental breakdown

So do the jump scares still work on you?
I guess i played FEAR way too often back in the day and subconsciously still remember it too well for the jump scares to have the desired effect on me. But thats great, FEAR is still one of my most favorite Shooters and mixed with a pinch of true fear it becomes even better :D
 

rrs

Member
1/1 for M&M bucks, got Empire Earth (again, got a disk copy) and The Last Remnant. Going to use later day stuff to get some more gifts to give away
 

Rhaknar

The Steam equivalent of the drunk friend who keeps offering to pay your tab all night.
After transition to steam PC version is almost unplayable.

nabs is playing it right now.

he's probably so shit that he doesnt even notice the steamworks lag tho

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Grief.exe

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Lets just say I put $25 steam bucks into my account, and I have $17 left. So yeah, kind of disappointing. I was hoping to grab Child of Light and maybe Transistor, but 25% off doesn't excite me. Seems like most of the deep discounts this sale have come up in previous ones, and most new discounts don't seem to be much lower than 50% off. I won a couple games I wanted in giveaways here though, so I'm pretty happy about that. I think I'll just save my remaining steam bucks until winter sale...

You cannot expect games that were just released to have a drastic discount.
 

Sendou

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You cannot expect games that were just released to have a drastic discount.

I think it would be bad news for everyone if games like Child of Light and Transistor received deep discounts mere months after release. At least Transistor is well worth the price they are asking for. I do understand why people want it on cheaper but it's not unreasonable price to ask at this point in time for such a high quality product.
 

Sera O

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Again for the new page.

Another giveaway! I'm using the weekly rule to help those who never win stuff , for you are my people. You're free to enter for any/all but you can only win one.

Once Binary Domain is claimed, I'll PM the winner a code for the Dan Marshall pack DLC.

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Acccent

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It is a direct quote from a panel discussion with Gabe Newell, the co-founder and managing director of Valve, who specifically stated that with a huge price reduction of 75% off, their gross revenue didn't stay the same, it "increased by a factor of 40. Not 40 percent, but a factor of 40." He then goes on through the potential reasons for that, ending with "Twenty-five percent, 50 percent and 75 percent very reliably generate different increases in gross revenue."

This negates the entire premise of your supposition, "it's definitely a possibility that Valve is currently trying to fix the ecosystem they partially damaged with the sales – we all know there's a problem with people never even considering games until they're on sale." and of course this, "maybe they're experimenting with ways to dampen the problem by making sales somewhat less 'dramatic', and maybe to make it more of an event focused on the metagame rather than the discount themselves." and this, "I think that's definitely the kind of thing we might see in the future, things less focused on 'lower prices' but still incentivising sales, to both keep the cash flowing and try to counter the phenomenon where Steam users get 'trained' to wait for sales before buying anything."

The cash is already flowing. From his comments there and in other interviews/comments, it is flowing more than it does when the games are not on sale. In the example he gave he stated that gross revenue increased by a factor of 40. It isn't time-shifting the revenue, and the increased sales continue AFTER the sale ends. I myself am quite willing to wait a game down years until it reaches a price that I find worthwhile. Your stated dislike of people demanding larger sales isn't the norm, it isn't hurting Valve or the industry at large, and it apparently is viewed as a positive thing by Valve because of the huge rise in revenue. The gaming audience is more effective than traditional promotional tools and drives sales when the games are drastically reduced.

Guys, please. Of course the games on sale make more money than when they're at full price... Did you need Gabe to share the result of a study they did to confirm that? Again, I'm not saying they'll stop the sale, and I'm not saying they should either.

What's happening, and that's an undeniable issue (but I guess you have to admit to taking part in it to even acknowledge it) is that the huge success that the Steam sales have been enjoying, that success has led to a slow but steady change in consumption and buying habits; that's not something this interview disproves. It's a larger issue, something that can't be measured by looking at isolated games – of course a single game will generate tons more revenue with a sale, but in doing so it also influences the users' expectation with regards to future offerings. The interview you linked says Game X, sold at, say, $20, generated 40 times more revenue when discounted by 75% (the sale being advertised); for it to be relevant, it'd have to also detail how the sequel, Game Y, released a year later also at $20, and Game Z, again a year at the same price, fare outside of sales: the argument here is that people are trained to expect certain things and it becomes harder and harder for developers to sell a game at the price they deem right. You can see it in this thread... -25% discounts are considered shitty and even almost somewhat of a treason. That behavior didn't exist before Steam's heyday – yes, sales did exist, but not the kind of sales that Valve has been organising over the years on Steam.

I'm not the only one saying this. I mean, it's so obvious you'd have to lack even the slightest distance, and be 100% involved in the practice, to deny it (and, unsurprisingly, the mechanics that Valve puts into place during sales specifically aim to get users to be 100% involved and to lose any distance on the event's implications). But, while I'm annoyed by people who declare the world's end imminent when a game is on sale for the second time, I'm not actually arguing that there's a right or wrong in the sales' influence, because I recognise that I lack that kind of distance; but there's definitely a 'before' and an 'after' the democratisation of Steam sales. Plenty of developers have been complaining about this... you can argue that developers are by definition anti-consumer, but of course it's, like I said before, a very complex issue and not one that I would be able to summarise. But what matters though isn't what's right or wrong, it's that the complaints do exist. That's why I said that it might be possible that Valve's trying to progressively transition their sales towards a kind of event that's less focused on aggressive discounts, and more on the metagame that always accompany them.
 

Vazra

irresponsible vagina leak
Browsing gaf and steam on this old laptop while the baby gets fixed is depressing. At least I can play some games on my mother´s pc.
 

Gangxxter

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Wtf, what happened to Team Pink? I was just playing Euro Truck Simulator 2 for two hours and suddenly they are in the lead.
 

khaaan

Member
This might be the wrong place to ask but tomorrow I'm building my very first rig and I wanted to know some prolific PC games to take advantage of the newer oomph. For reference I have a PS3 but it was primarily for exclusives and Japanese games. Same with Wii. If I take out the indies and oldies, I'm basically left with:

Alan Wake
Amnesia
Left4Dead 2
Legend of Grimrock
Saints Row the 3rd
The Witcher

Anybody have some recommendations? Based off of what is sale right this instance I'm thinking of grabbing FEAR and Deus Ex. Do I need to have played KOTR1 to fully enjoy KOTR2?
 

Sendou

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Once again, SteamGAF is BestGAF.

Thanks man!

Hey I'm not sure if this is the right forum to ask but does ES support highlighting games one specific friend of your owns? If not then is this just something that's not really feasible? I think it could be useful with shared libraries. In any case great work with it and all. Truly improves my day to day experience with Steam.
 


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Transistor looks so good, I think im gonna bite the 25% sale...

Wanted shovel knight but since is new I doubt it will be on sale. That OST
 
Any Aussies keen on wolfenstein check out ozgameshop. They have a email code section and you can get it for $40 if you use the code balls.
I guess anyone could Get it there but I'm not sure if 40 is a deal outside of Australia (79 normally)
 
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