The Wizard
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Alternative theory: These sales are simply not as good as previous years sales or offers by steam's competitors.
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Steam Winter Sales 2012 | Deal quality keeps on slippin', slippin', slippin'
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Alternative theory: These sales are simply not as good as previous years sales or offers by steam's competitors.
brandonh83
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I'm not actually like legitimately upset though. I just think it's crazy how many times TWD has appeared, but then again, like I said it's really popular right now after it's been getting so much praise.
I think this sale has actually been really good. I'm not complaining about the sale or upset about anything really in general, I've gotten some good stuff so far.
DUFFMCWALIN
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I can't believe that people still complain about the sales. Go play your backlog games. I know we all have a backlog.
It's a good port. It's not made by the same group that did the other Sonic Genesis ports. This is a new engine made specifically for SonicCD.
Exactly. And you can't wait 8 days until your game comes up in one of the daily deals/flash deals/community votes?
IF it doesn't, sure. The sale was shitty FOR YOU. YOU don't care that TWD came up again. But what about people that lost the flash sale before?
Fake Edit: However, I gotta say that people missing deals is something inexcusable in today's age. You can buy the goddamn game from anywhere: Browsers, phones, Steam Client. Every deal has a start and ending time known by everybody. If you lose a deal, unless there's something horrible that happened to you (like, you had to go on a last-hour trip or somebody rearended your car), there's no excuse.
Honestly, I disagree with this notion. I had plenty of games in past sales and I still thought they had plenty of good deals even for games that I already own.
Now I just see lots of repeat sales from past sales, sales that aren't as good as Amazon/GMG and lots of repeated sales between the sale itself (flash/Daily/votes).
This sales are definitively not as strong as past sales.
The genesis games were not ports but emulators (and the steam version aren't really bad, just not perfect sound wise, the only "perfect" emulated version is the VC one).
The Steam port is a an actual port, it's the same exact version released for other platforms, I don't believe there's any issues with it, it's by all acounts the best version of the game (alongside the other releases of the port).
brandonh83
Banned
Is it possible that Ass Creed Rev will go on sale for 75% off? I just beat Ass Creed Bro (I love doing that), and I'd like to play Rev pretty soon. I know it's generally not considered to be very good, but I'd like to finish out the Ezio trilogy and then finish out side stuff in Bro (which is easily the best game in the series so far).
If it does go on sale, I'd get that plus Dark Souls and maybe an indie game. Otherwise, I'd get Borderlands 2 and wouldn't be able to afford anything else. I imagine, even though this is the 3rd time already, that Blands will go on sale again so I guess I should just wait.
If it does go on sale, I'd get that plus Dark Souls and maybe an indie game. Otherwise, I'd get Borderlands 2 and wouldn't be able to afford anything else. I imagine, even though this is the 3rd time already, that Blands will go on sale again so I guess I should just wait.
I never complain when a game is 75 percent (unless it's been featured for the third time during the current promotion and has been on sale for 1000 times in the past).
Didn't buy MotN or Rayman Origins either. Cause they weren't good deals. It may have been the cheapest it's been on Steam, but Rayman has broken 10 dollars a bunch of times on other services.
To me, the big point is this: There's nothing terrible about these sales. They're decent. But of all the major sales this season, Steam is running in a a solid last place. So I think it's time we stop acting like they're special and better than everyone else. Cause, in reality, it's a decent sale... but the worst of all the major DD outlets. As such, we should stop with the worshiping of it. It deserves about as much attention as the others.
On that last point, I'm as guilty as anyone I guess. It's just expectations were raised and it's hard to come to grips with the fact Steam sales are no longer special and deserve to be rated in last place amongst the DD outlets.
Yea , was thinking the exact same thing when i saw the spec ops deal.
Not really much of a deal when you can pay a tad less and get 2 more games with it...
This years steam sale is the worst ive ever seen unfortunately.
Only game i wanted , sniper elite 2 , i missed by like 1 minute...had it in checkout , was at work , got a call , missed checkout time went back to only 50% off (33$) instead of 16$...oh well :/
Agreed.
Check amazon, its $7.50. Uplay though.
Big Chungus
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Dang gummit, still waiting for FTL to go on sale.
Winnie the Pimp
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Thanks, but I'm broke outside of Steam wallet. I'll just wait.
Considering that the communtiy vote is for AC2 (which has been for that price various times) and not for Rev (which never went that low) I imagine that we won't be seeing it that low, maybe 66%. It's in no way impossible though,
Dark Souls will be 17.99 on Amazon until early January, so if you picked up a game on Amazon you'll be able to get it for 12.99.
Again, that is expected.
Steam has been the ONLY ONE doing these annual sales for the past two years.
They're the reason other companies took notice and said: Hey, maybe if we made a seasonal sale, we could pump our numbers up as well.
Since Steam has been doing it for the past 2 years, they've created a public that's attached to the service. That public will, most likely, buy shit on the service next time there's a new sale around.
Amazon, on the other hand, is just now starting to come up on Digital Distribution. So yes, of course their sales will be cheaper. Except people are only buying the Steam redeemable games.
Valve doesn't need to drop their prices even further: They already got the public they wanted. Now, other companies are doing it. And they're having a harder time, because everybody is attached to Valve's ecosystem. That's why most of the Amazon sales are for Steam-redeemable keys.
I still think they deserve praise. If we have this competitive market today it's because of them. And we're the ones benefiting from it. But you must never forget that companies don't do charity: They're doing what they're doing because they want a larger profit margin.
Except Gamersgate, which just has a shitty system that provided us with amazing deals.
Sgt.Pepper
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And mostly because you can't get them anywhere else.
Quoted for truth check.
Great, thanks for the info. I get paid on the 1st, and indeed I did get some 5 dollar coupons on Amazon. I'll probably get Blands then, since I have time to co-op with people now that I'm done grading for the semester.
If anyone is looking for a copy of Spec-Ops for $4.99 let me know. I've got a promo credit for $5 on Amazon for 2K games that I'm not going to use. Also comes with Bioshock 1 and 2 if you need them or we can give them away to other GAFers. Shoot me a PM if you are interested.
Edit: Keys went to Da DreadLord
Edit: Keys went to Da DreadLord
Canis lupus
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I feel bad for getting it for €30 last month...
Again, that is expected.
Steam has been the ONLY ONE doing these annual sales for the past two years.
They're the reason other companies took notice and said: Hey, maybe if we made a seasonal sale, we could pump our numbers up as well.
Since Steam has been doing it for the past 2 years, they've created a public that's attached to the service. That public will, most likely, buy shit on the service next time there's a new sale around.
Amazon, on the other hand, is just now starting to come up on Digital Distribution. So yes, of course their sales will be cheaper. Except people are only buying the Steam redeemable games.
Valve doesn't need to drop their prices even further: They already got the public they wanted. Now, other companies are doing it. And they're having a harder time, because everybody is attached to Valve's ecosystem. That's why most of the Amazon sales are for Steam-redeemable keys.
I still think they deserve praise. If we have this competitive market today it's because of them. And we're the ones benefiting from it. But you must never forget that companies don't do charity: They're doing what they're doing because they want a larger profit margin.
Except Gamersgate, which just has a shitty system that provided us with amazing deals.
No. I know. I agree with everything. But I can still pin a picture of "Mr. Valve Economist" onto my dartboard and throw darts at his face as I mourn the lost innocence and calculated precision they now operate at.
I H8 Memes
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Fallout New Vegas just started a 9.2 GB update ....
Artofwar420
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Say waaaat
Sgt.Pepper
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Kuro with the real talk.
Man, I got a $50 wallet code for Christmas and the only thing I've bought so far is Mass Effect. I picked up XCOM the other day and that was great. I don't know if it's how sizable my backlog is, but the deals seem really lackluster. I'd pick up ARMA II for Day Z, but I already have so many big open world games I need to beat first. I'm waiting on Sleepy Dawgz, Max Payne 3, Chivalry, and Ass Creed I and Revelations. I don't have any real money, so it'll have to be on Steam.
But the sale goes to the 5th, so there's bound to be some good deals eventually.
But the sale goes to the 5th, so there's bound to be some good deals eventually.
Well, I believe we were all doing that the entire year. I'm pretty sure he's the one saying "hey, we don't need to lower our 30% profit on each sale to get a game to -75% as opposed to -66%, that game wouldn't increase our audience that much"
But that's the way shit works.
Now where's FTL. I know it's been 50% multiple times before with Steam redeemable keys, but maybe Mr Valve Economist slipped on that one.
Steam sales really stink now. It's always the same few games over and over, whether as dailies or showing up to be voted on for the flash sales. Focus is always given to the same stuff, while smaller or older games always go ignored. And not to mention that the prices are no longer the best.
I think Amazon has more respect for the customer. Instead of forcing you to go to their site multiple times a day hoping you don't miss a flash deal, deals run for several days, and you're always getting perks like coupons. For me, they're already the preferred place to shop at.
Are we getting less games with this new Steam sales format? I seem to recall having a huge palette of icons for the 24-hour deals they had in the past. Now we just get six per day plus 3-game flash updates.
I think Amazon has more respect for the customer. Instead of forcing you to go to their site multiple times a day hoping you don't miss a flash deal, deals run for several days, and you're always getting perks like coupons. For me, they're already the preferred place to shop at.
Are we getting less games with this new Steam sales format? I seem to recall having a huge palette of icons for the 24-hour deals they had in the past. Now we just get six per day plus 3-game flash updates.
Who the hell is that Garry guy? Everyone keeps mentioning him, seems like I'm missing something here.
A woman from the Spike VGA's called Gaben Garry.
PepsimanVsJoe
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Still waiting on a better deal for the Lost Planet games.
A double-pack ala what happened with Dead Rising 2 would be awesome.
Also Resident Evil 5 PC looks so good. Say what you want about Capcom this gen but they've really stepped their port game up.
A double-pack ala what happened with Dead Rising 2 would be awesome.
Also Resident Evil 5 PC looks so good. Say what you want about Capcom this gen but they've really stepped their port game up.
I just miss the whole metagame. Buy games, earn achievements for other cool stuff.
Now, it's just so clinical and predictable. I used to enjoy opening steam at 12 to see the new sales, but now, I completely forget about it almost every day. I don't really care for the concept of the flash sales and the community sales either. But that's just the grinch in me talking.
Yea, I have a ton of games, but I've haven't bought much of anything in the last year and a half, so there should be a ton of stuff that I should be itching to buy. But not really...
Call it entitlement if you want
brandonh83
Banned
I don't feel entitled or anything like that. That'd be really ridiculous and over the top. They're just games and it's been a good sale so far IMO. I made one comment about how TWD has been spammed but I'm not sitting here upset about it or anything like that. A lot of people are kind of playing with this like its a sporting event, like "come on this game!" or "come on that game!" or "damn why that game again instead of something else!" But I don't get the impression that people are actually really pissed about anything or are hating on Steam to any extent at all.
That comment I made about The Witcher 2 and The Walking Dead wasn't some declaration of anger or entitlement. It was a passing thought/comment if anything. It's easy to sit here and wait for hours hoping for something you'd like and when it doesn't pop up and something else does that has appeared numerous times already does, I think it's okay to make a completely harmless comment about it because everyone else is also doing the same thing. Again these deals always play out like a rally, people get excited, and likewise people get let down, but I don't think anyone is actually mad or ungrateful about any sale.
But I'll be careful about what I post going forward as it seems to touch a nerve here and there, and this isn't anything worth getting worked up about from any angle or perspective. It's all fun times.
That comment I made about The Witcher 2 and The Walking Dead wasn't some declaration of anger or entitlement. It was a passing thought/comment if anything. It's easy to sit here and wait for hours hoping for something you'd like and when it doesn't pop up and something else does that has appeared numerous times already does, I think it's okay to make a completely harmless comment about it because everyone else is also doing the same thing. Again these deals always play out like a rally, people get excited, and likewise people get let down, but I don't think anyone is actually mad or ungrateful about any sale.
But I'll be careful about what I post going forward as it seems to touch a nerve here and there, and this isn't anything worth getting worked up about from any angle or perspective. It's all fun times.
YianGaruga
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I'd buy that. Capcom got a lot of love from me this sale, I like what they're doing here and on GMG. I'm even seriously considering ordering DmC.
So it's Gaben with his name misspelled? Somehow I missed that thread, thanks for letting me in the joke!
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