teruterubozu
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3 episodes in and enjoying it, but wow Winona's acting is pretty bad.
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Stranger Things |OT| Hey, you guys...it's our time. It's our time in here July 15th
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MaKTaiL
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Don't say you don't like the acting when you actually don't like the character. Winona nailed the character she was given.
Agreed, she's one of the absolute highlights performance wise (in a sea of other fantastic performances in this show).
It kinda reminds me of the gaming side way back when I used to visit there and a site like IGN would review a game without actually finishing it. Those were good times (that are better left as memories and not experienced again!).
teruterubozu
Member
I like the character actually. I'm all about nervous wreck characters but Winona just isn't convincing to me. Sorry man, I'm still having a blast though.
Not much has changed for a lot of videogame reviewers.
hurricanes
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I rarely skip scenes when I watched breaking bad, even at the slow beginning. Not sure why though.
The fact you still skip some at all is what he was getting at, not that you don't skip as much.
hendersonhank
Member
Yeah, I thought she was terrible and hard to watch. Very hammy.
hurricanes
Member
Ok. Let's not be friends.
Finished episode 4. Holy shit I love this show.
I think Winona is great. She nails neurotic mother on the edge really really well. The pacing is ON THE FUCKING POINT. Which is so refreshing seeing as "regular" TV is all about the tease these days. Every episode seems to be about something and, after watching it, I can't wait to see the next one (but I don't, because I gotta pace myself
). Writing and acting is good to. I've heard some criticisms of it being tropey or whatnot, but it brings together a lot of different ideas and synthesizes them into something new.
Anyway, halfway through and I absolutely love this show. Can't wait to finish it.
I think Winona is great. She nails neurotic mother on the edge really really well. The pacing is ON THE FUCKING POINT. Which is so refreshing seeing as "regular" TV is all about the tease these days. Every episode seems to be about something and, after watching it, I can't wait to see the next one (but I don't, because I gotta pace myself
). Writing and acting is good to. I've heard some criticisms of it being tropey or whatnot, but it brings together a lot of different ideas and synthesizes them into something new.Anyway, halfway through and I absolutely love this show. Can't wait to finish it.
*rolls eyes exaggeratedly*
Fringe is one of my favorite shows but not being from the 80's I didn't think about it, but now that you two say it it's true, and I cannot unsee the parallels.
FlashbladeGAF
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How else is she supposed to play the mother who lost her child, while everybody thinks she's crazy, because she actually looks crazy?
her performance was uneven, but I didn't think it was bad.
There was actually a family whose kid disappeared for several days suddenly and seeing the mothers reaction, Winona is actually pretty restrained. The women was a babbling crying mess who could barely stand or function, not that I blame her, but at least Joyce is proactive about finding her son when no one believes he is a live.
Yeah not only do some people legit crack when something like this happens, but Joyce was also shown through both portrayal and dialogue to always have been unstable with a family background of mental illness, plus when she finds out the truth anyone she told would not only assume it's crazy but judge her based on her history.
Honestly I have always thought Ryder was a dreadful actress even in the 80's and even in movies I love, but she was great in this, probably the one time I am glad she was in something.
Honestly I have always thought Ryder was a dreadful actress even in the 80's and even in movies I love, but she was great in this, probably the one time I am glad she was in something.
originality is not needed for something to be good.
I feel like at this stage of art, very few things are truly original (since most things borrow or were inspired by something that came before it). With that being said, the pieces of this show come together to create something "fresh" if not wholly original.
pedrothelion
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Clearly Ryder's performance is divisive, but I think we can all agree that Hopper is amazing. Best performance in the series IMO.
Extra Sauce
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I think Hopper and Eleven are the two standouts in a deluge of excellent performances.
idk, the girl that played Eleven was phenomenal. all of the kids damn good.
as far as Winona is concerned, i thought she was fine. played the already-stressed mother who's losing it over her son's disappearance quite well.
It was so nice seeing him in a role where he's on the right side of the law, for once. Dude was a bad ass. And I really enjoyed the 3 arcs and how eventually they all converged to try and save Will. Adult arc, teenager arc and kid arc all worked for me.
On the Winona performance, I thought she was fine as well. My sister loved it. I don't know if it's because of her perspective, a mother of 3 teenagers and how she'd react or what. But I imagine that could play a part in relating to her madness.
DontBeThatGuy
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Well, shit, this damn show got me all emotional. I was immediately desperate for season 2.
MoonsaultSlayer
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Damn, I've been loving Winona's performance which has a nice contrast in the flashbacks. Some of you are hard to please.
I loved how they turned that horror movie trope on its head.
VistraNorrez
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Phoned it in is the completely wrong thing to call her performance even if you think it was bad. Phoned in performances are dull or the actor is just going through the motions, which is not something I'd call Ryder here. You might call her over the top or hammy, if you thought it was bad, but those are not interchangeable with phoning it in.
Personally I thought she was great. She had a lot to pull off with that character. A lot of places she had to go, both high and low. And she did it very well.
DontBeThatGuy
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I thought Ryder was perhaps a little uneven at first, but it didn't take long before I was fine with her and her character. Non-issue.
Gozer the Gozerian
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Ya it's not a problem when you realize once she starts crying you can just skip ahead like 15 seconds and look at the thumbnails to see when she's done
Yeah the show was really well plotted.. pretty much everything the characters did make sense and the arcs worked really well. Awesome show
Me too, that post was the best thing to come out of that page long discussion.
MaKTaiL
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brandonh83
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Agreed and it cannot be easy acting that sort of thing to the extent that she's asked to do in the show.
I don't feel like she was even trying. I.e. Phoned in. That's just how I felt watching her. Then again, I can't remember watching something she was in so maybe she's just a terrible actress? Idk, her scenes took me out of the experience. Especially compared to the Sheriff. He was fantastic.
Extra Sauce
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Then you have poor perception? Whatever you think about the quality of her acting, she obviously put effort in the performance. I don't understand how anyone could feel otherwise.
Insane Metal
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Basically the opposite for me.
I agree the plot is not anything to write home about, but it does its job well. But the horror is great (it's more of a suspense than horror actually), the music is INCREDIBLE and the characters are awesome, except for Ryder. I thought she was too whiney and her character didn't really grow on me at all.
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I agree whole heartedly.
Oh editing again, how do you guys rank Netflix's originals now? For me it would be something like this (these are the only ones I've watched):
1. Stranger Things
2. Daredevil S01
3. Sense8
4. Jessica Jones
All of them are at least B+ for me though. They are making insanely good content.
Extra Sauce
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1. Stranger Things
2. Bojack Horseman
3. Bob and David
2. Bojack Horseman
3. Bob and David
I'd agree with this. Bojack is fuckin fantastic
and Winona did great. took me a few eps but I was digging it by the end.
Since its only a first season I'll compare it to other first seasons.
1. Stranger Things.
2. Houes of Cards
3. Bojack Horseman
4. Orange is the New Black
5. Daredevil
The best thing Netflix has put out though has to be Beasts of Nation though. That movie devastated me the core. Its a shame Cary Fukunaga won't be directing the It movie, he would have knocked that shit out of the stratosphere.
1. Stranger Things.
2. Houes of Cards
3. Bojack Horseman
4. Orange is the New Black
5. Daredevil
The best thing Netflix has put out though has to be Beasts of Nation though. That movie devastated me the core. Its a shame Cary Fukunaga won't be directing the It movie, he would have knocked that shit out of the stratosphere.
This is probably more the way I feel. I find this kind of character borderline unwatchable in most shows (even if I sympathize 100% with how/why they feel the way they do). Add to that, she often has to carry entire scenes by herself, with probably the most underdeveloped major character on the show.
She had the toughest job of anyone on the show. And though I never completely cottoned to her character, for Ryder to be onscreen as much as she is and not ruin it is actually an accomplishment, to me. (I also have to say, and this likely falls more on me, I never forgot for a moment I was watching Winona Ryder. Heck, even now, it took me a minute to remember her character's name.)