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Moneal said:
There were people in the room that we never see Will interact with through the whole shows run time. Murry, Robin's Girlfriend, and Lucas's sister. The scene would have had so much more emotional weight if it was just Will, his mom, brother, Lucas, Mike, Dustin, El, Max, and Robin for emotional support. Even that is a pretty big number of people for the scene.
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There were so many people in the room because they were preparing for the final battle. The purpose wasn't just for Will to realise his true identity but to function as a kind of call to arms. Don't forget that Will did initially try to come out only to his mother, but then changed his mind once he realised everyone was there and probably that this could be the last time they see each other alive.
 
I gotta say, the "Dark Vecna" theory that most, if not all, of season 5 is all within a Vecna created illusion is pretty compelling. Things like the changing color of the radio tower power indicator or Will referencing things that didn't actually happen (to him, at least), is veeeery interesting.

 
Revolutionary said:
Another GoT Season 8 parallel
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Not gonna lie, if they left in all sorts of gaffes and anachronisms in some sort of "Last Action Hero" moment where it's revealed they are all semi-aware and trapped within a show, FUCK that could be genius! Probably too late to do it now, but that would have been an AMAZING rug to pull if they could have endured a few years of internet sleuths pointing out every little 'missed' detail like that.

MBB always in a body glove wetsuit is another odd thing. I'm sure its to avoid any "wet shirt" moments (to my eternal disappointment) but damn, having worn those things quite a bit back in the day they are NOT comfortable to be running around in all the time.
 
jason10mm said:
Not gonna lie, if they left in all sorts of gaffes and anachronisms in some sort of "Last Action Hero" moment where it's revealed they are all semi-aware and trapped within a show, FUCK that could be genius! Probably too late to do it now, but that would have been an AMAZING rug to pull if they could have endured a few years of internet sleuths pointing out every little 'missed' detail like that.

MBB always in a body glove wetsuit is another odd thing. I'm sure its to avoid any "wet shirt" moments (to my eternal disappointment) but damn, having worn those things quite a bit back in the day they are NOT comfortable to be running around in all the time.
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Netflix already edited out the Under Armour logo so this 'theory' is pure copium. It reminds me of the Indictrination Theory that fans came up with after Mass Effect 3's ending shit the bed.
 
Revolutionary said:
Netflix already edited out the Under Armour logo so this 'theory' is pure copium. It reminds me of the Indictrination Theory that fans came up with after Mass Effect 3's ending shit the bed.
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It was likely something the actress was wearing for her own comfort and ST didn't pay for, (or more likely UA didn't sponsor), so Netflix has the capability to remove it and so they did. If it was a deliberate choice and the wardrobe folks just got their dates mixed up I'm not sure they would have bothered.
 
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EDIT: Sorry J jason10mm already touched on that this thread is going too fast for me 😋
 
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John Marston said:
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EDIT: Sorry J jason10mm already touched on that this thread is going too fast for me 😋
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NotMyProblemAnymoreCunt said:
Thank god, I think they are hacks. Stranger Things is such a boring show
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I know ya'll keep sharing this as some kind of a gotcha but The Duffer Brothers have already been signed on for a live-action project that takes place in the Stranger Things world but in a different town and with a different set of characters and a different conflict and likely in a different time period.

Netflix isn't going to push away the most successful creatives in the history of their platform.
 
analog_future said:
I know ya'll keep sharing this as some kind of a gotcha but The Duffer Brothers have already been signed on for a live-action project that takes place in the Stranger Things world but in a different town and with a different set of characters and a different conflict and likely in a different time period.

Netflix isn't going to push away the most successful creatives in the history of their platform.
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I for one can't wait for Stranger Things:Hawaii where the crazy kids pal around with Magnum and Biggs. It's better than Stranger Things: Somewhere California-ish where they have to deal with Michael Knight and Stringfellow Hawk
 
That was downright astonishingly bad. They actually did it and made a worse ending than Game of Thrones.

I'm surprised they didn't have the mindflayer try and possess Eleven after Henry died. There were a bazillion wayyyyy too drawn out scenes of the last FUCKING HOUR. They end on some note of Mike making up some bullshit to lie to himself like the movie Atonement instead of processing trauma properly. But of course, only after yet again trying to mimic how LOTR wraps up its characters with the slow af and bland conclusion scenes, which are after the mega overly drawn out Zack Snyder style action scenes. Don't even get me started on the logistics of fighting that spider and the laws of fucking physics. Apparently they can all run and climb at 200mph and that monster can CHEW THROUGH A MOUNTAIN but a shotgun is owies?
 
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The layers of stupidity in episode 7 are just starting to hit me. I was so distracted by Nancy being an expert killer, I didn't even notice that everyone was on board with smuggling children through an army base where they were likely to get shot and killed. Like Jim is really adamant about El not fighting Vecna, but he was totally fine w/ the other kids being shot at by the military?
 
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This was not worse than Game of Thrones. At least Game of Thrones had some quality to it in the early seasons. Stranger Things was a very safe mediocre show, with a very safe and mediocre ending.
 
The finale was phenomenal. I honestly don't know how they could've done it any better.


This show was never a masterpiece next to the greats like Breaking Bad or The Wire or Mad Men or what have you, but it was always fun, interesting, full of memorable scenes, entertaining, goofy/mildly nonsensical, with just the right amount of heart tying it all together. And this finale encapsulated all of those things wonderfully and wrapped up the series in a perfectly satisfying way.


Fantastic. I can't wait to watch through this whole series again with my kid in a couple years when she's old enough.
 
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Represent. said:
A 2 hour banger of a finale can make up for a lackluster season. Easily.
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I wouldn't go tthat far but it was a strong finish, and if nothing else managed to stop me from writing season 5 off entirely.

They still couldn't help themselves though. Joyce being the one to finish off Henry was a legit great idea, and then they went and ruined it by unnecessarily drawing it out with epic flashback overload. The epilogue turning into a bittersweet mini-John Hughes movie was a pleasant surprise, but again they severely undercut it with the cowardly 'Eleven survived' theory. End credits was fire so it at least left with a good impression.

Well done finale, you've earned a rewatch at some point.

CellarDoor81 said:
What was a bit unrealistic in my opinion was the fact that all the people who are currently playing a role in Will's life were present in that moment.
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It was preposterous, to have a coming out speech in front of a dozen people, some of whom he hasn't even exchanged dialogue with. To do this in 1987, even moreso.

All he needed was a sincere heart-to-heart with Joyce, Jonathan, Robin, or even Mike, and we would have gotten the catharsis they had us wanting. Robin's coming out scene was pretty much perfect, and Will deserved likewise. But they squandered it because like everything else in season 5, subtlety is passé.
 
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CellarDoor81 said:
I don't know... As someone who is also gay, I actually found the topic in the last episode to be dealt with quite well.

What Robin tells Will, how she had a crush on someone who was heterosexual and the reasons why she was afraid of coming out, fits 1:1 to my own story.

What was a bit unrealistic in my opinion was the fact that all the people who are currently playing a role in Will's life were present in that moment.
Usually, you first tell ONE person, your best friend or a family member. Because as Stranger Things rightly says, your biggest fear is that people will reject you from that moment on and you'll end up all alone. That's why you "test" it on the person who means the most to you. If they take it well, the rest is (almost) no problem.

But on the whole, I felt very well represented by Will, as I said, as a gay man whose story is very similar to his.
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Gross
 
The coping Mike speech at the end saved the finale for me, I felt writing there was good and almost out of place. Not gonna bitch about the many discrepancies in my fan fiction brain for the rest.
 
jason10mm said:
Not gonna lie, if they left in all sorts of gaffes and anachronisms in some sort of "Last Action Hero" moment where it's revealed they are all semi-aware and trapped within a show, FUCK that could be genius! Probably too late to do it now, but that would have been an AMAZING rug to pull if they could have endured a few years of internet sleuths pointing out every little 'missed' detail like that.
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I mean the end credits allow that intepretation, and they literally talk about video game logic in the final battle.
 
A good ending. Not amazing, not bad, but good and safe. Im gonna miss the show, but in a few years I'll most likely rewatch it again as it remains one of the best shows I've watched.

EDIT: props to Vecna and the actor for doing a fantastic job and I'm glad they didnt pull a "redeem" card bs for the villain. He owned it.
 
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Terrible season, but I loved the final episode.

I loved the final DnD scene. Read somewhere that the Duffers had the ending planned for a long time and it shows, 'cause the writting was much better there than the rest of the season.

There were still some cringy scenes like the older group reuniting on top of the radio station, or Derek looking at Mike inside the truck (dunno wtf was that about), but overall it was pretty great.

lol at people comparing it to GoT ending in terms of quality. Rewatch that shit again.
 
I was very 'whelmed' -- at that finale. It was exactly as 'ok' as the rest of the season. That's kind of where I'm at with it.

Things I Enjoyed:
Henry / Vecna just being straight up like 'no, I wasn't manipulated' and him NOT having a 'redemption' arc was an excellent choice

I liked the D&D campaign ending, that they all chose to do that instead of going to the party. I liked how it ended with his sister and her friends doing a campaign then.

I liked how Will ended up helping in the fight.

I liked Hopper's acceptance speech to Mike


Things that were so dumb they nearly made my eyes roll out of the back of my head
Where the hell were all the demodogs / demogorgons in the final battle? The bats that killed Eddie? Just...gone?

How did they climb that mountain so quick? Fight was totally anticlimactic

PICK A LANE WITH ELLE. Either she sacrificed herself or she didn't. Don't give me this bullshit fake inception ending where 'oh maybe she didn't die -- but it's up to you to decide which fate she got. JUST PICK AN ENDING, AND STAY WITH IT.

At no point in the show did I ever feel like they were hopeless. There never felt like real stakes, and there was no real sacrifice / loss for the main crew. Everyone had plot armor.

All in all - not nearly as bad as the ending to Thrones -- but I have a hard time understanding the folks who loved the ending and thought it was great. For me, this show started out (season 1) as a clear 10/10 -- and then kinda whimpered along the rest of the way with some bright spots -- but not enough to make this something I'll ever revisit.
 
th4tguy said:
How in the hell are all of them not in jail at the end? They attacked a military facility. Hell, Hopp killed US soldiers.
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Yeah, this was a big glaring oversight. I guess the "you guys were kidnapping kids to torture and experiment on" defense might have gotten the US Attorney to overlook it, but really, had they spent less time on a 2 character emotional release every 10 minutes for the past 3 eps they might have had more time to flesh out the military. Hell, the most logical step would have been to have El and Jim negotiate with Sarah Connor and have the military unit attack the city spider as a mutual "enemy of my enemy is my friend" deal. I'm not really sure why this season went the way it did but it felt very anti-climactic for the $$$ spent on it.
 
jason10mm said:
Yeah, this was a big glaring oversight. I guess the "you guys were kidnapping kids to torture and experiment on" defense might have gotten the US Attorney to overlook it, but really, had they spent less time on a 2 character emotional release every 10 minutes for the past 3 eps they might have had more time to flesh out the military. Hell, the most logical step would have been to have El and Jim negotiate with Sarah Connor and have the military unit attack the city spider as a mutual "enemy of my enemy is my friend" deal. I'm not really sure why this season went the way it did but it felt very anti-climactic for the $$$ spent on it.
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What's worse is it all could have been explained away with a throwaway line from one of the characters explaining how so and so politician/ official got them out of trouble when everything came to light about what the military was doing etc etc, but they didn't even bother.
 
I really loved this final episode.

And maybe I liked the final credits a bit more. I know it was always sort of the point that the series didn't just borrow from DnD lore and rules but was also written as DnD, and those final touch(es) (credits and the previous scene with Mike's campaign) were a perfect way to close it all.

The episode also did have more than a couple of epic moments too.

And it does feel like they intentionally left a thread (or two) for more stories in this mythverse.

All in all, I'm happy with the series. I was a bit disappointed with the third season when it first aired, but upon a re-watch before season 5, that one now also felt quite alright -- I think the great season 4 redeemed parts of it.
 
It wrapped up about the way I expected with a couple of things a little off. I thought that Mike's D&D stories were great way to wrap up the characters, especially considering this show was written with a younger audience in mind. There were a couple of glaring issues with the finale, but I am willing to look past them since it is over, and I will no longer think about this show. A bit cliche, but I did like the new group of kids taking over the game table.

My biggest disappointment in the entire finale. Mrs. Wheeler rocking the mom haircut at the end. Nooooooo.... ....she had that hot 80's hair. I was around in 1989 and have experience with the shift to the mom haircut. This is what happened with my ex-wife (wife at the time) after she had our daughter. She had this awesome 80s hair and got the mom cut. It is not what caused the divorce, but it should have been. :messenger_grinning_squinting:
 
th4tguy said:
How in the hell are all of them not in jail at the end? They attacked a military facility. Hell, Hopp killed US soldiers.
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If their legal defence rests on the base containing a portal to another dimension, then it's not clear that they can have a fair trial. Since the jury wouldn't be allowed to know classified information.
 
CellarDoor81 said:
How are the chances that Netflix really does this? I don't want to subscribe any longer for a rewatch...
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A few of their shows have been released on physical media via Blu-ray and 4k UHD. The first and second season of Stranger Things have got a 4K UHD release. They spent a huge amount of money on the show, so making a 4k UHD boxset is a no-brainer to recoup some of that budget money back. I'll be surprised if Netflix don't release a nice boxset later on this year.
 
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I had a good laugh at them skipping over scenes where they had to lift Derek. Pulling the kids out of their flesh prisons? Yeah Derek is just out. Guess no actor was strong enough to lift the bugger and then they totally skipped over everyone coming back through the rift to the top of the tower. I'd have loved to see them try to get him out without a nice new and deep crater at the base of the tower. Whole final ep was silly as fuck.
 
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