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[Mesoian]

Does Mika's c.hp have any real purpose? Never really use it.

Getting your ass hit.

I haven't found a good purpose for it either.

 

[sixteen-bit]

Finally unlocked Kanzuki Estate before I go to sleep. Had only short time with it but it's by far my favorite stage so far.

2P side stole Ingrid's clothes

 

[hey_it's_that_dog]

It's also possible that it's not about the points. The guy may have had a string of bad matches and then just decided to say "to hell with it" and close out the game. Some people get like that.

If we played on PS4, that had to have been a good while ago, so good memory if so! What's your PSN?

I didn't even think of it that way, good point.

My PSN is capnwacky and it would have been a few months ago now. I remembered because I recognized your name from GAF. You played Ryu I think. I was Ken.

 

[『Inaba Resident』]

Right now, I think Karin's two biggest issues are her reversal options and V-Trigger mixups.

 

[Skilletor]

Getting your ass hit.

I haven't found a good purpose for it either.

Amazing my meaty on wakeup, and combos with vtrig.

 

[Rektash]

Does Mika's c.hp have any real purpose? Never really use it.

Getting your ass hit.

I haven't found a good purpose for it either.

You can use her cr. HP to cross under your opponent after a wall bounce. It's a pretty decent mixup tool if used like that.

 

[Shouta]

Does Mika's c.hp have any real purpose? Never really use it.

Yes, you can use it for side-switch mix-ups off Irish-Whip with V-Trigger and it'd still be damaging, lol.

On Karin, she's definitely gonna need more than just the mix-ups in the final game. They're easy to figure out. What I would is for her to be able to convert off the right reads or conditioning. Letting her get st.mp after hitting a qcb+p or qck+mk on counter would be cool for example.

 

[Kain]

The beta is funny, I've caught some people with yolo wake up CA and it's glorious. Also fuck shoryuken spammy Kens, I want to test my new flashy combos, damn it, I don't want to be patient and punish you (when playing with Rashid)!

Btw, blue dress Karin is where it's at.

My man.

 

[Deps]

Karins best mixup options are

end any combo with qcb+lk ->j.mk xup (if they quickstand) if they don't backdash then do it again

end combo with ex shoulder -> s.mp/c.mk xx lk/mk cmd dash
Lk ends up in front MK is a x-up

Simple starter: c.mp, s.mp xx qcf+k /d+pp / p -> qcb+lk

 

[qcf x2]

Why do most Nicali's not pop vtrigger when they get it?

Is there an actual use to keeping it outside of V-reversal?

Well, if you say it for when you land a heavy punch, you can get the extra damage on a combo. The more I use this guy the more he feels like the anti-shoto, kind of like Makoto in 3s. It feels like he's got a better dp than Ken, lol.

Does Mika's c.hp have any real purpose? Never really use it.

Yes. It's really good in the corner when you whip the opponent off the wall, it sometimes crosses over so you can mix up with grab/super/whatever.

 

[decoy11]

My memory is a little hazy but I remember throws being 4frames in beta 1 and now I am seeing frame data on beta 2 character having throws at 5frames. Did I miss an announcement on throws being changed in the last few months?

 

[SAB CA]

Pretty much this. This mix-up is more from knockdown than hopscotch.

During some rushdowns I would pressure using hopscotch from cr.LPs. Basic as fuck but it works. But I might start integrating V-Trigger activation after st.MK just for Guren, although even that doesn't feel as strong as it used to be.

Whatever gets the job done, right?

And LoL, this game will be much different after people stop thinking invincible backdash is a thing. Catch those runaways with qcb+p!

Cool i'll try that,thanks for the tips you two.

Not a problem! It's kinda fun blocking projectiles with your Awesome Bod/Mic (v.skill) too, though I find I mistime that more often than not.

Does Mika's c.hp have any real purpose? Never really use it.

After the Rope throw, it'll switch sides or stay on the same, depending on timing after they bounce off the wall.

 

[FistOfSyn]

ok guys, I like rashid but I have some problems on wakeup

Either I block and I get grabbed like 80% of the time or I try to do something and just get counter-hit.. what do?

Also how do you quick wakeup? I hold down everytime I land on the ground but I quick-getup like maybe 25% of the time. It's weird..

 

[bob_arctor]

LOVING Mika. "I'll kick your ass!!"

Hyyyyyype!!!!

 

[CGwizz]

Any tips for a guy that never plaeyd street fighter ? Fucking hell in 10 matches i won a round.

I feel like my oponents know exactly what to do, when to do it and how to do it and i am just a idiot trying to hit them with no sucess. I am just fucosing on ken cause one is enough to a scrub like me :S

Start to feel depressed by the ownage i am getting ...

Also this matchmaking system sucks, waiting 20 minutes to get in a fight is bad.

 

[Pundere]

So what can I get off of Karin's crush counter? Seems like the only reliable follow ups are another st.hk or ex command dash into stuff. You can do st.hk>v trigger>dash forward cr.mp into whatever but I'm looking for less meter dependant punishes.

 

[Skab]

Karin is stupid

 

[Deps]

ok guys, I like rashid but I have some problems on wakeup

Either I block and I get grabbed like 80% of the time or I try to do something and just get counter-hit.. what do?

Also how do you quick wakeup? I hold down everytime I land on the ground but I quick-getup like maybe 25% of the time. It's weird..

Keep getting grabbed. Getting grabbed 3 times is the same as getting counter hit once, much better to just get grabbed. His ex qcf+p is invincible, do that once in a while.

Quick getup is tap down not hold down.

 

[Skilletor]

Unlocked Karin's stage. Played only Rashid most of the time today. He's got really good buttons. End up beating people just because they like to press so much stuff...still don't know what I'm doing with him.

Time to take a break and clean. Watch some defend the North.

 

[StriKeVillain]

ok guys, I like rashid but I have some problems on wakeup

Either I block and I get grabbed like 80% of the time or I try to do something and just get counter-hit.. what do?

Also how do you quick wakeup? I hold down everytime I land on the ground but I quick-getup like maybe 25% of the time. It's weird..

Mash EX QCF+P!

 

[Edzi]

Any tips for a guy that never plaeyd street fighter ? Fucking hell in 10 matches i won a round.

I feel like my oponents know exactly what to do, when to do it and how to do it and i am just a idiot trying to hit them with no sucess. I am just fucosing on ken cause one is enough to a scrub like me :S

Start to feel depressed by the ownage i am getting ...

Also this matchmaking system sucks, waiting 20 minutes to get in a fight is bad.

Honestly, get used to losing a lot. I'd recommend watching some of gootecks's tutorial vids on youtube if you wanna get a grip on fundamentals.

 

[Mesoian]

Holy shit, how is Karin's cr.hk so godlike?

 

[bob_arctor]

Any tips for a guy that never plaeyd street fighter ? Fucking hell in 10 matches i won a round.

I feel like my oponents know exactly what to do, when to do it and how to do it and i am just a idiot trying to hit them with no sucess. I am just fucosing on ken cause one is enough to a scrub like me :S

Start to feel depressed by the ownage i am getting ...

Also this matchmaking system sucks, waiting 20 minutes to get in a fight is bad.

You have to let go of defeat. Only then will you be determined enough to improve.

 

[Arc Christelle]

Holy shit, how is Karin's cr.hk so godlike?

Great range. It's always been this way, almost could rival Chun-Li's.

 

[Kain]

Any tips for a guy that never plaeyd street fighter ? Fucking hell in 10 matches i won a round.

I feel like my oponents know exactly what to do, when to do it and how to do it and i am just a idiot trying to hit them with no sucess. I am just fucosing on ken cause one is enough to a scrub like me :S

Start to feel depressed by the ownage i am getting ...

Also this matchmaking system sucks, waiting 20 minutes to get in a fight is bad.

Spam HP shoryuken

 

[ZeroTheShadow]

Mika sounds like fucking Naruto, believe it. Mika is just Naruto in sexy-no-jutsu.

 

[CGwizz]

Spam HP shoryuken

I can barely do it in my dualshock xD

 

[Mesoian]

Mika sounds like fucking Naruto, believe it. Mika is just Naruto in sexy-no-jutsu.

I am okay with that headcanon

 

[FistOfSyn]

Keep getting grabbed. Getting grabbed 3 times is the same as getting counter hit once, much better to just get grabbed. His ex qcf+p is invincible, do that once in a while.

Quick getup is tap down not hold down.

I don't hold it, I just tap it like in SF4 but it feels like it doesn't work? I guess i'm holding it too much

How about vs mika? Her grabs hurt pretty bad..

Mash EX QCF+P!

lol alright i'll try that, I almost never use my meter I always try to keep it for the super ( and it's useless, I dont remember using it once)

 

[Mesoian]

I don't hold it, I just tap it like in SF4 but it feels like it doesn't work? I guess i'm holding it too much

How about vs mika? Her grabs hurt pretty bad..



lol alright i'll try that, I almost never use my meter I always try to keep it for the super ( and it's useless, I dont remember using it once)

In this game, EX moves feel way more important and useful than actual Critical Arts. Risk and reward to be sure, but the big damage you get using, say, Mika's dual butt attack is easily traded for the amount of pressure she can deal just using ex bomb or ex bird

PC must be working now, bunch of complete newcommers hitting the scene.

 

[SAB CA]

Any tips for a guy that never plaeyd street fighter ? Fucking hell in 10 matches i won a round.

I feel like my oponents know exactly what to do, when to do it and how to do it and i am just a idiot trying to hit them with no sucess. I am just fucosing on ken cause one is enough to a scrub like me :S

Start to feel depressed by the ownage i am getting ...

Also this matchmaking system sucks, waiting 20 minutes to get in a fight is bad.

The best, most boring advice is to learn to block, and learn what punishes what. For example, Necalli's charging claw slice has super armor at some point, so it's hard to hit him out of it. However, after he hits your block, he can he punishes by weak / medium normal moves into special attack.

Waiting for opponents to do attacks like that, and then punishing them, will help you get the life lead. After that, you just want to outplay them, and try not to "hang yourself" by doing a bunch of risky stuff too. The more patient, calculated fighter should win.

So what can I get off of Karin's crush counter? Seems like the only reliable follow ups are another st.hk or ex command dash into stuff. You can do st.hk>v trigger>dash forward cr.mp into whatever but I'm looking for less meter dependant punishes.

Off the HP, command dash on in and damage. Off the Kick.. use the extra time to set-up? Have you tried command dash+D+P?

Karin is stupid

LoL, I think many of the Ken's I fight are saying this. QCB+P, D+K countering fireballs at near full screen? GKLSHJDFSLDKJF!

 

[Trickster]

Mika sounds like fucking Naruto, believe it. Mika is just Naruto in sexy-no-jutsu.

Day one mod that adds the whiskers. Believe it!


What kind of ranks are you guys seeing on yourself or the opponent? Just wondering how high the numbers go, should give an indication of how many people are participating I guess? Personally I've not seen someone ranked who was higher ( or lower depending on how you look at it ) than in the 42.000's.

 

[Shouta]

Mika sounds like fucking Naruto, believe it. Mika is just Naruto in sexy-no-jutsu.

You're gonna launch a thousand doujinshis man. D=

 

[Slaythe]

Ok so.

Here are how it goes for me :

1) Noob = I kill them easily

2) Intermediate = Even matches, can go either way , close matches

3) Good players with characters I don't know = I get obliterated

4) Good players regardless the characters = I get destroyed

And my problem is

5) The players who are not better, get down to 0% HP, and just wait, which forces me to get bored to the point I stop caring because waiting for a time out and playing defensive for 30 seconds isn't how I play fighting games.

I understand dying to a blocked hadoken is lame, but come on, there needs to be a middle ground. EX moves wouldn't be so awful to have chip kill IMO .

 

[TheSpoiler]

Karin is stupid

It begins.

Ok so.

Here are how it goes for me :

1) Noob = I kill them easily

2) Intermediate = Even matches, can go either way , close matches

3) Good players with characters I don't know = I get obliterated

4) Good players regardless the characters = I get destroyed

And my problem is

5) The players who are not better, get down to 0% HP, and just wait, which forces me to get bored to the point I stop caring because waiting for a time out and playing defensive for 30 seconds isn't how I play fighting games.

I understand dying to a blocked hadoken is lame, but come on, there needs to be a middle ground. EX moves wouldn't be so awful to have chip kill IMO .

So instead of throwing out a hadoken, you throw out an ex hakoden and win? That's not solving anything.

Learn to open people up.

 

[Sukospin]

Day one mod that adds the whiskers. Believe it!


What kind of ranks are you guys seeing on yourself or the opponent? Just wondering how high the numbers go, should give an indication of how many people are participating I guess? Personally I've not seen someone ranked who was higher ( or lower depending on how you look at it ) than in the 42.000's.

Saw a 58K ranked person yesterday.

 

[AlphaDragoon]

Mika sounds like fucking Naruto, believe it. Mika is just Naruto in sexy-no-jutsu.

You might already know this, but Mika IS Naruto. Same Japanese VA. XD

 

[dmcAxle]

They're good against people you've conditioned, but against mashy people, they lose to weak attacks and such all the time. You really have to know what they're doing, or have a good read on it, for them to work. They look like OP crazy when opponents have no idea how to defend, but horrible when they catch on. They'd be very bad if that's all she had, but thankfully she has solid, full combo enders that lead to damage and knockdown.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_DVF97rFNso

I don't have the beta so I can't test. Is this the stuff you're talking about that can be mashed out of?

 

[HardRojo]

Karin feels so good to use but I can't play her well on pad. It's hard to go for the EX Shoulder mixup, my fingers get all tangled up lol.

 

[Mesoian]

Day one mod that adds the whiskers. Believe it!


What kind of ranks are you guys seeing on yourself or the opponent? Just wondering how high the numbers go, should give an indication of how many people are participating I guess? Personally I've not seen someone ranked who was higher ( or lower depending on how you look at it ) than in the 42.000's.

I'm around 9000, I just fought someone who was 56k

I don't know if the rankings mean that much right now

 

[FluxWaveZ]

You might already know this, but Mika IS Naruto. Same Japanese VA. XD

I thought it turned out to be a different VA this time for SFV?

 

[ZeroTheShadow]

You might already know this, but Mika IS Naruto. Same Japanese VA. XD

Wellthereitis.gif

 

[ZeroTheShadow]

I was rank 600 something yesterday when I stopped getting matches. Haven't played since, probably dropped off a ton.

 

[Mizerman]

You might already know this, but Mika IS Naruto. Same Japanese VA. XD

I think she has a different voice actress this time around.

Unless we're talking about Alpha 3.

 

[Slaythe]

It begins.


So instead of throwing out a hadoken, you throw out an ex hakoden and win? That's not solving anything.

Learn to open people up.

Don't act dumber than you are, please.

Ex resources are not unlimited.

 

[bob_arctor]

Mika mirrors are amazing.

 

[Trickster]

I'm around 9000, I just fought someone who was 56k

I don't know if the rankings mean that much right now

Well I imagine that they should give us an idea of how many people are participating in the Beta.

 

[TheSpoiler]

Don't act dumber than you are, please.

Ex resources are not unlimited.

Hey man, I'm not the one proposing EX moves should KO on chip.

Why are you so salty?

 

[HardRojo]

Don't act dumber than you are, please.

Ex resources are not unlimited.

Yeah, I somewhat agree that at least EX moves should be able to chip kill. I've been in some awkward situations where my opponent was at 0% and I didn't know whether to rush down or wait for them to fuck up, even though I had some bars.
With that said, it's probably better that we wait for the game to develop for a while after it releases.

 

[Pundere]

Off the HP, command dash on in and damage. Off the Kick.. use the extra time to set-up? Have you tried command dash+D+P?

Command dash into shoulder is too slow to connect after st.hk. I did find out that you can walk forward slightly and get link a cr.mk for an optimal punish.