Street Fighter V |OT2| Another Fight Isn't Coming Your Way!
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Noray
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I hate FANG - part 1
I hate FANG - part 2
I just have no idea how to close. He gets me with the sleeves, I can't jump in because of his anti air, and he controls the screen with the poison. And both players here used him exactly as they should've??? why people gotta be GOOD at this game???
this exactly
If that works like it did on the betas that cr mp hits meaty enough to be comboed into cr hp.
Remember the only horizontal fireball he has, his vskill, has no hitstun, so you can just dash right throught it and bop him in the face. It's a guranteed poison state (if you dont jump it) but if can hit him quickly before it does any big damage.
Thing on a Spring
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The first thing I noticed is that you jump a lot. A lot. Try to train yourself to stop jumping so often and instead, to close the gap, make use of her normals that move you forward as she has a lot. Remember ex elbow will blow through fireballs and long range pokes. Also, raw v-skill at point blank range will get you punished hard against most players. St.hp is a good long range button to fish for crush counters. Cr.hp also has good range.
Marvel
could never
Mine are always on a K.O. though. ALWAYS.
If someone gets kicked or both of you kicked I believe they are error messages starting with the number 2. But when a suspected cable puller does it, it's "Opponent connection lost"
Anecdotal and stream watching evidence but hey it's unconfirmed and maybe complete bs *shrugs* lol. All I'm going to think right now is when I have gotten round/game winning K.O's and he/she leaves I suspect the worst.
It's simply happening too much.
That's what I figured. I was hoping there was another normal. Cr.fp doesn't seem all that reliable.
MrJohnSherry
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Thank you for the feedback! On the jumping thing yeah I agree, and I have been making a effort not to do that! I am not too sure what you mean about confirming it? Forgive my ignorance because I am quite new to all this terminology!
Also yeah, I kick way to much, or go the dash elbow move. Also, while on the subject of crush counters, does Laura have any more apart from that spinning heel-kick type move she does? I am going to have to spend alot more time in the Dojo I think!
Lariat's not invincible anymore so you'll have to be careful using it to beat crossups on wakeup now
It's still works if you have time to see it
Stallion Dan
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Do a move the moment the previous connects. Not all moves cancel into others.
Easy example, Ryu crouching medium kick, press the kick and buffer a fireball, as soon as the kick hits hit the punch for the fireball.
EndcatOmega
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I'm no expert at all, but two things struck my eye:
1) You jump around way too much- not a big deal in those matches, but a Ryu who knows what he was doing could swat you out of the air if you did it too often.
2) Yeah, you were a little too aggressive- the Ryu was throwing out point-blank shoryuken and connecting with them; probably needed to start waiting for him to throw them out and punishing him bad for it.
Also not sure what you have against Ryu to swear about him most of the video, heh.
NipplesAndToes23
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Don't be so negative. I want that game. Tekken has given us a couple beat em modes in their games, but they weren't good, okay at best and terrible at their worst, but I think Capcom could actually make a good beat 'em up that gives characters with a movelist as large as a fighting game.
If I did it I would make it with Ryu, Chun-Li, Karin, and Birdie.
FadedRevolution
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When making contact on opponent blocked or hit during the animation input the special move.
Ex. Opponent blocks or get hit by Nash's standing medium punch input sonic boom command and it will cancel the rest of the medium punch animation and throw a sonic boom.
Note not all moves can be canceled
Gief's CA is like that Drake album.
If you're seeing the animation startup, you're too late.
However, if he caught you with V-trigger (as in you didn't block it and your character is swaying forward) that means you actually can't escape bc you're still in vacuum effect.
Solution is to be blocking when he V-trigger's in or don't do something punishable, then hold up after you get close in your blocked state
If it makes you feel any better, that second match is hardly a "decimated or torn apart" loss. lol. I've went into matches I got dizzied, Critical Art'd, perfected, and yes it happens in this game as the damage is so damn high.
As for advice I'd say:
- jump less;
- try to concentrate more on punishing whiffed moves - Ryu whiffed several shoryukens and tatsumakis and you didn't really take advantage of it.
gl
Ken.
I sort of figured it out, partially. Throw a hadouken at the right moment and try to close the distance, perhaps with a jumping tasumaki. But if one of my attacks gets blocked it's 'Welcome to Suplex City'.
I think I'm going to have to learn a few decent combos, because Zangief gives few attack opportunities.
This is truth...
I have not managed to beat anyone playing Bison...and stage 30 Bison on Normal Survival wrecks my shit every time as Karin... I just want a color besides Red, Blue, or Yellow for my main... Come on...
Which is hilarious because everything up to stage 30 is a joke.
IrrelevantAlex
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To Add
-Anti air with her anti air grab
-Do the light version of her elbow to get a grab or meaty normal mix up.
-Dash and command grab sometimes.
-EX Elbow can take 1 hit so use it to go through fireballs
-If you stun get a bigger combo,
back dash twice, charged HP fireball, jpHK, (fireball hits) fHP~HPxxAnti air grab
-Don't curse so much Kappa
MrJohnSherry
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Haha, I am just a bad loser (And I always get pasted by Ryu, even in SF2 lol) - but I accept that I am going to lose ALOT for the foreseeable while I iron out the basic mistakes! I started swearing when I KNEW, I KNEW he was going to throw them shoryuken's and I kept getting caught. In the first match I wanted to the guy to do it so I could rush in and punish him - and when the second guy did it I just had no answer!
Thanks for all the feedback so far guys, I have to head out now but I will revisit the thread in the morning to read if anyone has anymore feedback and just to read the typical tips and tricks from everyone. This is one fighting game I want to get better at, MKX never really got my caught up this much!
Disaster Nebraska
Banned
Wow! Thank you for the very, very thorough answers!
This is what I needed to know.
I think I may pick it up, knowing that I can just sink a lot of hours into it (which I was planning to do anyway) to get those extra characters eventually.
Another question, though: can I only earn FM once from those objectives? For instance, if I play a Character Story 5 times in a row will I get money the first time but not the second through fifth times? Can I use Survival Mode to keep earning FM or do I only get it once per difficulty after I beat it?
I understand the challenges and trials are coming up, which is okay in my opinion. Just wanted to know if I could avoid paying extra money for DLC characters, which it appears I can.
Marvel
could never
I just saw lol, whoopsSo annoyed you even let the DOOM peeps know
Garrett Hawke
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Oh boy, hoping you don't get dropped before you finish due to the maintenance.
Character Stories are a one time thing. Survival FM is technically earnable multiple times on any difficulty because you get the same FM for completing it with each character.
So, say you do Easy with Ryu, you can then go and do Easy with Ken and get the same amount of FM. Then you go to Chun-Li on Easy and complete that to get FM. So on and so forth. But after that, you can't repeat say Ryu on Easy to get FM again -- unless you want to play it to try and level up the character for the 1k FM per level up bonus.
If you want to get FM for completing Survival with Ryu again you'd have to go to the Normal difficulty next. Then on Normal after beating it with Ryu you could go to Ken and beat it with Ken to get more FM. Rinse and repeat until all characters are complete on Normal and then move onto Hard.
Now of course, that's all easier said than done as Survival on Normal can be pretty tricky -- the last few characters definitely go hard apparently so be aware you may fail a few times along the way. But as long as you persevere and aren't too easily frustrated then you'll be able to get them completed most likely. Hard and Hell is where things get a little dicey (and more or less is where the grinding comes in).
The rewards are one time only. Repeats reward no FM.
You shouldn't be trying to get close to gief. Gief's whole gameplan is to get close to you, you want to keep him out of your space.
No, you don't want to close distance most of the time. Don't do a jumping tatsu if you want to close distance either.
Your gameplan as Ken is generally to make Gief come to you by fireballing on the ground and DPing his jumpins. Then as he's blocking, sneak in the step overhead or V-skill kick a few times.
N
Noray
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If I can give you some unsolicited advice, you're missing a lot of free damage after you do the rope toss. If you're at mid-screen, you can backdash, charge HK and follow up with EX wingless airplane. If you're in the corner, you can follow rope toss with f.HP > Wingless Airplane (normal or EX).
UcchedavÄda
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That made me laugh. I guess they did not know you can just jump to escape those throws (unless you predict that as well).
Russian dude named Tarakanovich.
SneakersSO
Member
I'm going to tell you - the reason you got beat was because you were being too aggressive. You were playing as if he was a training dummy, try to land your moves & combos, when you should have realized those two Ryu's played very, very differently.
Laura's move set, while it can be aggressive, isn't overly so. Her ideal range on most opponents is right on the border between mid & close. You jumped a lot, but I don't know if that was you trying to preempt hadoukens or if you were using that as a way of getting in. In either event, Laura is actually way more dominant on the ground. If you're dealing with someone who wants to zone via fireball, your ex-shoulder tackle gives you a hit of armor & punishes for some strong damage. Don't be afraid to use that. Also, at that border between medium & close, her HK crush counter should crush ryu on his fireball startup frames if you use it to poke, which you weren't doing.
In the first match, your opponent didn't once try & wake up shoryuken you, and he might have thrown 1 or 2 fireballs out, total. Your 2nd opponent used all 3 of his specials way more frequently, which punish you whiffing specials, your jump ins, or you trying to dash in. Also, the 2nd Ryu woke up with DP on you once or twice. You need to learn Laura's better wake up game options when you get a knock down. For example, you could be charging a fireball and using that to cover you getting in when your opponent gets knocked down. Or you could throw out your fireball for a meaty wakeup.
Also, utilize cr.mk->lk shoulder tackle-> command grab reset. At this level of play, you'll probably catch way more opponents with that than you realize.
Disaster Nebraska
Banned
Thanks to the both of you. Kind of annoying, but with challenges/trials on the way I will just suck it up. My friends have been going hard into GGXrd so I'm not too concerned about overall content (or lack thereof).
lmao
Stairouais
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Lost 600 lp tonight. Fucking thrilled.
Canceling is simply doing a move before the animation for the previous move ends. So if you go to training mode and do a crouching medium kick, wait for it to end and then do a fireball, it will be two separate attacks. However, if you do a crouching medium kick and input the fireball command before the leg is retracted (while the dummy is still recoiling from the hit), it will be a 2-hit combo. That's it in a nutshell.
It's actually even easier to cancel into V-trigger. Do a normal that's cancelable (standing mp probably works for everybody in the game) and then hit HP + HK before the animation for the standing MP ends. It has to be done quickly. If you do it right, V-Trigger will activate while the opponent is still in hitstun, and this will allow you do do another attack (or even the same standing MP).
MatrixMan.EXE
Member
I have to say, I find it pretty dumb that we have to unlock the costumes in story mode, THEN purchase them for 40k FM a pop. It's ludicrous.
Garrett Hawke
Member
Same tbhUcchedavāda;196266179 said:
Unsolicited advice is very welcome
this is my first SF and the first fighting game I've been any kind of serious about so any advice is awesome.I have a little trouble with the f.HP > wingless but I've been practicing in practice mode, just haven't made it into a match yet
UcchedavÄda
Member
And yet it pales in comparison to having go through Survival mode for the colors .. that mode is the worst.
Ah ok, wasn't sure if it was that simple or something more complex like jump-cancelling in blazblue. Thank ya
Stallion Dan
Member
With who?
Except that ... INEXPLICABLY...you can't actually purchase them for use anywhere but story yet even though you unlocked them.
Why would you play story again ever? This is so dumb.
What a tease Capcom...
If I was blocking before the V-trigger, I wouldn't be pushed toward him ?
I thought I that even in a blocking state you would get sucked.
As far as I know, I was blocking and when the animation started it was already too late for me to input the jump command.
UcchedavÄda
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If I am not mistaken, that is just the EX version of his air Eagle Spike.
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